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The reason I haven't posted anything here for awhile is that there's nothing recent in my areas of expertise.
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My dear friend, dear professor 
Haven't you learnt perspective?
But you'll have an opinion on what I've said.
Tell us, dear professor, illuminate us with your super intelligence
Are we going to indulge ourselves in argumentum ad hominem now?
bigbrain, you have been offered carefully studied enlightenment, but you refuse to accept nor even consider it. But, if you think that ad hom is a good way to argue a point, have at it. There are some people here who enjoy that sort of thing...
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:16:15 [Permalink]
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Though I agree with your assertion about our government's intentions in Iraq (even a broken clock is right two times a day), you've misspelled Iraq. I usually ignore typos, but since the Q and the K are on opposite ends of the keyboard and since you mis-spelled the same way twice, I will attribute it to your stupidity.
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In Italy we can say Irak or Iraq indifferently.
Since you are more intelligent than me, WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND PERSPECTIVE?
IT'S A SIMPLE THING, ALSO CHILDREN CAN LEARN IT.
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filthy
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:19:40 [Permalink]
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... Now then, you are saying that the NASA Space Program money went into building bombs ...
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Not only. The money has gone in many pockets obviously.
The pockets are not obvious until they have been identified. And again, that is a staggering amount of money. It would require an equally huge laundering operation, one unprecidented in the annals of organized crime (which is basically what you are accusing NASA of being: an organized crime cartel).
Do elaborate...
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:19:52 [Permalink]
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... And the Boeings did not bring down the towers. The fuel fire did. A raging inferno produces heat enough to undermine the structural integrity of the floors. When they collapsed, the weight above the failure brough the structure down. Implosion demolition experts use it when they bring down buildings. Seismic constructions depend on the structure starting out as intact. The structure was comprimised by the fire and that, sir, brought down the towers ...
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Right click on
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
Left click on "Save object by name" and play the movie.
What is that trembling of the image before the collapse of the Tower, super intelligent guy?
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More likely someone bumping the camera. While the camera is shaking I saw no evedence of explosions in or on the building. And it was a good long while before the building colapsed after the shaking. If there was explosives at the time of the shaking the building would have colapsed then.
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zaphod beeblebrox
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:20:33 [Permalink]
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before with explosives your government has distroyed the Twin Towers.
(Two powerful skyscrapers of 500,000 tons, designed by a japanese team of architects expert in anti-seismic constructions, can't collapse that way because of two ridiculous Boeing of 200 tons).
I saw the collapse in person A friend died in the collapse I hid in a building to avoid the collapse (Have you ever seen those film from inside nearby buildings it looked just like that) And let me just say the before the collapse I never saw nor heard anything to indicate explosives, And the trembling in the video you posted is most likely movement of the camera. |
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:22:51 [Permalink]
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Are we going to indulge ourselves in argumentum ad hominem now?
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Maybe you must tell this reasoning to the dear friends Fripp and sts60
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:35:50 [Permalink]
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... And again, that is a staggering amount of money. It would require an equally huge laundering operation, one unprecidented in the annals of organized crime (which is basically what you are accusing NASA of being: an organized crime cartel) ...
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Billions and billions of dollars turn around the Church of Rome nevertheless God doesn't exist.
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:56:30 [Permalink]
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But let's see another picture:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6642.jpg
IF THE SUN IS UP IN THE "SKY" (look at illumination of the Earth)
WHY ...
WHY ...
WHY THAT SHADOW ON THE MOON (below on the right) 
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Fripp
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:14:56 [Permalink]
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Since you are more intelligent than me, WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND
Several years of drafting and art school. I know perspective quite well, thank you.
What's DOF, smart guy?
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:21:48 [Permalink]
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... And the Boeings did not bring down the towers. The fuel fire did. A raging inferno produces heat enough to undermine the structural integrity of the floors. When they collapsed, the weight above the failure brough the structure down. Implosion demolition experts use it when they bring down buildings. Seismic constructions depend on the structure starting out as intact. The structure was comprimised by the fire and that, sir, brought down the towers ...
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Right click on
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
Left click on "Save object by name" and play the movie.
What is that trembling of the image before the collapse of the Tower, super intelligent guy?
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Nope.
When big heavy objects fall down, the weight crashing to the ground shake it.
No big whoop there. Anyone who have been near a grain silo when you beat the side of it after you auger out all the grain can tell you that one.
http://www.rit.edu/~smo5024/papers/wtc/
The force exerted to the ground was that of a earthquake of an intensity of 2.1 on the Richter scale. Therefore, the person with the camera was feeling the shock wave of the core collapse.
It even has pretty pictures for you showing the collapse, too. |
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:26:01 [Permalink]
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What's DOF, smart guy?
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I'm from Italy. DOF?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:31:16 [Permalink]
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Are we going to indulge ourselves in argumentum ad hominem now?
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Maybe you must tell this reasoning to the dear friends Fripp and sts60
I rather think that they already know, they who have invested so much time in trying to inform you.
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Billions and billions of dollars turn around the Church of Rome nevertheless God doesn't exist.
I fail to see what this is in aid of. If I'm not mistaken, the income of the Vatican is well accounted for. And the existance of God has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Thus do I piss naplam upon your straw man and the red herring in his pocket.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Fripp
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:32:02 [Permalink]
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I'm from Italy. DOF?
Don't play the "English is my second language" angle. You write and read English just fine.
This is only about the fifth time I've asked. You asked why NASA uses fisheye lenses. You claimed it was to make everything all "mysterious looking". Stupid answer (yes, that was an ad hominem attack).
Fisheye lenses have infinite DOF. C'mon, this is so simple a child can figure it out. I pointed out why NASA uses fisheye lenses in the second thread. |
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"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 10:33:37 [Permalink]
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When big heavy objects fall down, the weight crashing to the ground shake it.
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Which big heavy objects? The Tower is still standing.
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