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 Posted - 08/29/2005 : 16:34:46 [Permalink]
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Bigbrain, have you ever gotten even one person to agree with you on all of this? Ever?
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tw101356
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Posted - 08/29/2005 : 18:00:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE THAT NASA'S BUFFOONS FAKED ALL IMAGES OF LUNAR LANDINGS
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-3.jpg
BIGBRAIN, THE MAN WHO UNMASKED NASA
No, but it is proof that if the horizon is at eye level then the eye must be level with the surface of the earth. You have confuted yourself.
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 00:16:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Filthy
... C'mon bigbrain, give us something other than feebly supported and unsupported claims.
Originally posted by tw101356
No, but it is proof that if the horizon is at eye level then the eye must be level with the surface of the earth. You have confuted yourself.
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Excuse me, but you are slow on the uptake.
See these panoramas please:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
If you see "Ayers Rock Australia" and "Blue Mountains" YOU CAN EASILY NOTICE THAT HORIZON IS AT THE HEIGHT OF YOUR CAMERA THOUGH YOU ARE IN HIGHEST PLACES.
Look at "Ayers Rock Australia" and left click going on the right.
Stop when you see on the left a portion of the horizon and on the right a portion of the mountains.
If the LM landed on a site below the horizon line, you would see it this way
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-4.jpg
If the LM landed on a site above the horizon line, you would see it this way
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-5.jpg
IN THIS PICTURE
http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5927.jpg
THE LANDING SITE IS BELOW THE HORIZON LINE BUT ...
BUT ...
BUT ...
BUT THE HORIZON IS NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF CAMERA
THEREFORE ...
THEREFORE ...
THEREFORE THIS PICTURE IS ABSOLUTELY FAKE
ALL IMAGES OF LUNAR LANDING ARE ABSOLUTELY FAKE: ALL HORIZONS ARE WRONG BECAUSE IN A STUDIO YOU CAN'T GET INFINITE LEVEL SURFACES.
BIGBRAIN, THE MAN WHO UNMASKED NASA 
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 03:54:47 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
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Originally posted by Filthy
... C'mon bigbrain, give us something other than feebly supported and unsupported claims.
Originally posted by tw101356
No, but it is proof that if the horizon is at eye level then the eye must be level with the surface of the earth. You have confuted yourself.
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Excuse me, but you are slow on the uptake.
See these panoramas please:
http://www.panoramas.dk/
If you see "Ayers Rock Australia" and "Blue Mountains" YOU CAN EASILY NOTICE THAT HORIZON IS AT THE HEIGHT OF YOUR CAMERA THOUGH YOU ARE IN HIGHEST PLACES.
Look at "Ayers Rock Australia" and left click going on the right.
Stop when you see on the left a portion of the horizon and on the right a portion of the mountains.
If the LM landed on a site below the horizon line, you would see it this way
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-4.jpg
If the LM landed on a site above the horizon line, you would see it this way
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-5.jpg
IN THIS PICTURE
http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/5927.jpg
THE LANDING SITE IS BELOW THE HORIZON LINE BUT ...
BUT ...
BUT ...
BUT THE HORIZON IS NOT AT THE HEIGHT OF CAMERA
THEREFORE ...
THEREFORE ...
THEREFORE THIS PICTURE IS ABSOLUTELY FAKE
ALL IMAGES OF LUNAR LANDING ARE ABSOLUTELY FAKE: ALL HORIZONS ARE WRONG BECAUSE IN A STUDIO YOU CAN'T GET INFINITE LEVEL SURFACES.
BIGBRAIN, THE MAN WHO UNMASKED NASA
Excuse me, but it is you who are slow on the uptake.
I have already mentioned that I have no interest in cameras, pictures, and how they might be viewed. I am interested in hard evidence and as stated, it's easy to doctor up a photo, one way or another. Whether your's are real or fake, I don't know nor care.
Hard evidence, bigbrain: paper trail; the money. What says the former about the inventories used to build the various projects? Where is the money if it was not spent on these projects? Answer these questions, and you will have substantiated your claim. Otherwise, you have nothing but a few glossies in decent focus, and wind.
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Starman
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 04:17:32 [Permalink]
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Cool Bigbrain has reached All-Caps-lala-land.
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Fripp
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 04:51:34 [Permalink]
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BigIdiot,
Not only are you a bad 3D artist, but you don't have even a rudimentary knowledge of video or photography. You didn't know that video runs at 29.97 fps. You countered by saying "why then does software have 30 frame per second option"?
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 06:01:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Where is the money if it was not spent on these projects? Answer these questions, and you will have substantiated your claim. Otherwise, you have nothing but a few glossies in decent focus, and wind.
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The money was spent to build bombs.
Things have gone this way:
before with explosives your government has distroyed the Twin Towers.
(Two powerful skyscrapers of 500,000 tons, designed by a japanese team of architects expert in anti-seismic constructions, can't collapse that way because of two ridiculous Boeing of 200 tons).
With this pretext your government has made war against Irak to seize its oil, and in fact it's stealing oil from Irak.
But your government is blind because oil will finish up in a short time.
Instead of spending a lot of money in bombs, your government should increase very much researches on hydrogen and electrical engines with european engineers (excuse me, but your engineers are only buffoons and swindlers ).
By the way, where are you sts60?
Have you remained without words?
YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE USELESS IN FRONT OF MY EVIDENCES
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Fripp
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 06:21:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
With this pretext your government has made war against Irak to seize its oil, and in fact it's stealing oil from Irak.
Though I agree with your assertion about our government's intentions in Iraq (even a broken clock is right two times a day), you've misspelled Iraq. I usually ignore typos, but since the Q and the K are on opposite ends of the keyboard and since you mis-spelled the same way twice, I will attribute it to your stupidity.
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Originally posted by bigbrain
Instead of spending a lot of money in bombs, your government should increase very much researches on hydrogen and electrical engines with european engineers (excuse me, but your engineers are only buffoons and swindlers.
Europe is brimming with brilliant engineers. You are not one of them. In fact, IF you were an example of European intellect (which you are not) I would say, "No thanks, we're doing just fine, thank you."
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
before with explosives your government has distroyed the Twin Towers.
(Two powerful skyscrapers of 500,000 tons, designed by a japanese team of architects expert in anti-seismic constructions, can't collapse that way because of two ridiculous Boeing of 200 tons).
TA DA!!! Here we get to official looney land. Ahh, the old conspiracy theory idiot. I am now done with your stupidity.
By the way, genius, what's DOF?
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Originally posted by bigbrain
By the way, where are you sts60?
Have you remained without words?
I am sure that he is working. Employment must be an alien concept to you. Especially as a 3D artist who fails to understand that video runs at 29.97 fps. |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 07:01:51 [Permalink]
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The money was spent to build bombs.
Can you document this, or is it merely another doubtful conjecture?
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Things have gone this way:
before with explosives your government has distroyed the Twin Towers.
(Two powerful skyscrapers of 500,000 tons, designed by a japanese team of architects expert in anti-seismic constructions, can't collapse that way because of two ridiculous Boeing of 200 tons).
Heard this one before and have been keeping an eye on it. Still no evidence as to it's veracity. I was watching a tv in a waiting room and saw some of it on 9/11.
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With this pretext your government has made war against Irak to seize its oil, and in fact it's stealing oil from Irak.
Yes, and I hate it even more than you do, although I'm not sure how much the bastards are stealing, if any. The Iraqis keep blowing up the pipelines.
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But your government is blind because oil will finish up in a short time.
I agree.
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Instead of spending a lot of money in bombs, your government should increase very much researches on hydrogen and electrical engines with european engineers (excuse me, but your engineers are only buffoons and swindlers
Again, I agree, except for the American engineers part. We currently have some of the best in the world in various fields, although Bush seems to be trying to change that. In any event, your entire post is no more than a red herring. Very poor form but no matter, we'll continue never the less:
Now then, you are saying that the NASA Space Program money went into building bombs. Do you have any grasp of just how much money we're discussing, here? I do not know what it costs to build the most expensive of munitions, but I think I can safely state that from it's inception until now, NASA has spent enough to buy so many bombs that we'd be hard pressed to find places to store them. And there are always the whistle-blowers. With the number of people who would have to be in the know about it over those decades, doesn't it seem a little strange that none of them has been stricken with conscience and blown the gaff?
bigbrain, we got to do better than this.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 08:08:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
THIS IS THE DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE THAT NASA'S BUFFOONS FAKED ALL IMAGES OF LUNAR LANDINGS
http://geocities.com/ameri1cano/perspective-3.jpg
BIGBRAIN, THE MAN WHO UNMASKED NASA
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 08:16:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
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Originally posted by filthy
Where is the money if it was not spent on these projects? Answer these questions, and you will have substantiated your claim. Otherwise, you have nothing but a few glossies in decent focus, and wind.
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The money was spent to build bombs.
Things have gone this way:
before with explosives your government has distroyed the Twin Towers.
(Two powerful skyscrapers of 500,000 tons, designed by a japanese team of architects expert in anti-seismic constructions, can't collapse that way because of two ridiculous Boeing of 200 tons).
And the Boeings did not bring down the towers. The fuel fire did. A raging inferno produces heat enough to undermine the structural integrity of the floors. When they collapsed, the weight above the failure brough the structure down. Implosion demolition experts use it when they bring down buildings. Seismic constructions depend on the structure starting out as intact. The structure was comprimised by the fire and that, sir, brought down the towers.
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With this pretext your government has made war against Irak to seize its oil, and in fact it's stealing oil from Irak.
But your government is blind because oil will finish up in a short time.
Instead of spending a lot of money in bombs, your government should increase very much researches on hydrogen and electrical engines with european engineers (excuse me, but your engineers are only buffoons and swindlers ).
By the way, where are you sts60?
Have you remained without words?
YOUR CALCULATIONS ARE USELESS IN FRONT OF MY EVIDENCES
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sts60
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 08:22:14 [Permalink]
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I am sure that he is working.
Working, though I've been checking this thread. (I recently tried to post on the "Big Easy" thread, but some glitch happened and I didn't feel like retyping it.)
The reason I haven't posted anything here for awhile is that there's nothing recent in my areas of expertise. It doesn't take an engineering degree to know that if you're on the side of a hill, the top of the hill will be above you. What can I add to that?
Besides, time constraints aside, I argue for three reasons: 1. To convince someone of something. 2. To learn something. 3. Just for the fun of arguing. But none of the three have applied lately:
1. There's been no specific space-related question lately to which I can offer any insight to the regulars. And the original instigator of this thread has repeatedly demonstrated he is simply incapable of learning anything, through some unhappy combination of limited intelligence and closed-mindedness.
2. I've learned stuff from the regulars here, but haven't had anything to add to it recently (on perspective, for example). On the other hand, there is simply no factual content whatsoever to the hoax claims, so there's nothing to learn there.
3. Arguing just for the heck of it can be fun, but requires the other person to have some measure of wit as well as a smidgen of knowledge. The original instigator of this three-part thread doesn't qualify because he is as tedious as he is ignorant.
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bigbrain
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 08:45:20 [Permalink]
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... And the Boeings did not bring down the towers. The fuel fire did. A raging inferno produces heat enough to undermine the structural integrity of the floors. When they collapsed, the weight above the failure brough the structure down. Implosion demolition experts use it when they bring down buildings. Seismic constructions depend on the structure starting out as intact. The structure was comprimised by the fire and that, sir, brought down the towers ...
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Right click on
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg
Left click on "Save object by name" and play the movie.
What is that trembling of the image before the collapse of the Tower, super intelligent guy?
EXPLOSIVES
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 08:56:18 [Permalink]
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The reason I haven't posted anything here for awhile is that there's nothing recent in my areas of expertise.
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My dear friend, dear professor
Haven't you learnt perspective?
But you'll have an opinion on what I've said.
Tell us, dear professor, illuminate us with your super intelligence
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Posted - 08/30/2005 : 09:09:25 [Permalink]
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... Now then, you are saying that the NASA Space Program money went into building bombs ...
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Not only. The money has gone in many pockets obviously.
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