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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 09/17/2005 : 02:15:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
Originally posted by ktesibios
"The time is coming up for the ELS (Earth Landing System) to come into play. The SECS (Sequential Events Control System) orchestrates all the events using timers and barometric switches. The system is highly redundant because, like so many systems aboard a spacecraft, the crew's lives depend on it.
At 7,300 metres (24,000 feet) the RCS is disabled and the forward heatshield jettisoned.
Also known as the apex cover, this part of the heatshield wraps around the CM forward compartment where the parachutes and their mortars are mounted. Once jettisoned, a small parachute attached to it slows it down to take it away from the descending Command Module. 1.5 seconds later, two drogue parachutes are deployed to stabilise the CM's attitude and slow it from 500 km/h to 280 km/h"
HA,HA,HA  NASA's buffoons continue to use acronyms to solve unresolvable problems:
ELS (Earth Landing System)
SECS (Sequential Events Control System)
NASA's buffoons continue to lie impudently.
"... two drogue parachutes are deployed to stabilise the CM's attitude and slow it from 500 km/h to 280 km/h"
Have astronauts landed at 280 km/h 
Then, already burned to death, the three poor astronauts have broken during splashdown.
YOU ARE MORE AND MORE GULLIBLE PEOPLE.
 
And as has been staggeringly obvious from the beginning, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You have become little more than a noise, bigbrain, semi-meanless and mildly irritating. Your claims lack substance as well as logic, and you are either too lazy, crazy, ignorant, or all of the above, to garner the necessary evidence to bolster them.
Y'know, you remind me a little of one the great blatherskites of our age: Rush Limbaugh. Rush will take a topic and twist and spin and lie about it until it fits his troglodyte's view of the world, completely without regard as to what the facts might be. Then, when he has it suited to the tastes of his loyal, brain-dead audience, he spews it forth like flatulence from a mule. When called on this, he, like you, ignores the critisisms and the corrections, and simply continues to spout rubbish. You should go into the Italian version of our talk radio, bigbrain. I see a rosey future for you there, in amongst the professional blather-mongers -- come to think of it; do you have an OxyContin addiction? That might explain a lot....
Interesting side note: Rush beat the Vietnam draft with a cyst on his anus. It is said that the doctors were going to remove it but discovered that it was not a cyst at all, rather it was his head stuck in there...
Where your head seems to be firmly implanted.
So whereaway now, bigbrain? Are you going educate yourself a little or, more likely, continue to wave your hands and regurgitate more fatious bilge?
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 03:34:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Vulgarities are no use
if you want to be right
about something.
You must use argumentations and reasonings.
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
Publius Terentius Afer, "Terence", Roman dramatist
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 04:04:17 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
Originally posted by filthy
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Vulgarities are no use
if you want to be right
about something.
You must use argumentations and reasonings.
You have yet to put forth any sort of a coherent argumentation and your reasoning, while consistant, is confused at best.
If you want to be right about something, you need to study and compile your evidence, which you have not done -- and I can be as vulger as I wish, and still be factually accurate and correct.
Shit or get off the pot, bigbrain. Do you have anything beyond logical fallacy and shouting to support your claim?
I rather think not...
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 06:35:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
You have yet to put forth any sort of a coherent argumentation and your reasoning, while consistant, is confused at best.
This is your opinion,
only an opinion.
Other people may think differently.
Also asteroids, made of rocks and metals, disintegrate in the impact with atmosphere,
and sts60, the professor, haven't confuted my calculations
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"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
Publius Terentius Afer, "Terence", Roman dramatist
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pleco
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 07:56:33 [Permalink]
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The vast majority don't.
All, maybe we should just re-list everything that bigbrain has ignored everytime he posts something, instead of attempting to have any discussion.
On that note:
Are you going to state that the Russians and Chinese also lied about their space programs? Or will you continue to gloss over it?
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 08:08:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
Are you going to state that the Russians and Chinese also lied about their space programs?
YES, ABSOLUTELY YES
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pleco
SFN Addict
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 08:17:29 [Permalink]
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Therefore, America, Russia/USSR and all other space-faring countries are in cahoots to lie to the world about their explorations of space. They have to be working together, otherwise if the Russians had lied, the US (among others) would have exposed it (and the russians would have exposed the US the first chance they could). This means that all scientists from all countries are either part of the conspiracy or have been lied to and are unable to uncover the truth. Further, the media is also either part or or ignorant to the conspiracy. And, all the monies that supposedly went to these programs has dissapeard and no person has noticed the billions and billions of dollars gone or where it went.
Which leads us to bigbrain, one of the very few of elite investigators that has managed to avoid the conspiracy and has uncovered all of the lies using the same information that is accessible to everyone else, and is able to see all of fakery in the photos and other data that no other persons are able to see.
Does that just about sum it up? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 08:23:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
Originally posted by filthy
You have yet to put forth any sort of a coherent argumentation and your reasoning, while consistant, is confused at best.
This is your opinion,
only an opinion.
Other people may think differently.
Also asteroids, made of rocks and metals, disintegrate in the impact with atmosphere,
and sts60, the professor, haven't confuted my calculations
More hogwash! Stating the obvious and denying the fact. Falling asteroids have nothing to do with manned, orbital flight, and sts60 spits Black Maria on your calculations.
You have done nothing but blither the same crap, post after post, with exactly zero support for your claims. The fallacies in your reasoning have been pointed out to you time and again, but rather than go back and do some fact checking, you simply puke the same claims out all over again. I can almost predict what you will post, and it gets little old and tedious after a while. I have been described as having the patience of a corpse, but you are wearing it down thin.
I'm sure there are many who don't share my opinion. Many if not most of them can be found at the moon landing hoax sites, and none of those turkeys do their homework either, as far as anyone can tell.
I'll let you in on an open secret, bro: endless repetition of an unsupported claim accompanied by florid text and hand-waving might win a debate at the woo-woo sites and on the school playground, but it cuts no ice in here!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Siberia
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 08:29:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain
Originally posted by filthy
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Vulgarities are no use
if you want to be right
about something.
You must use argumentations and reasonings.
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 09:27:12 [Permalink]
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bigbrain:
Do you acknowledge that there are many man made satellites in earth orbit? |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 10:04:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
More hogwash! Stating the obvious and denying the fact. Falling asteroids have nothing to do with manned, orbital flight, and sts60 spits Black Maria on your calculations.
You have done nothing but blither the same crap, post after post, with exactly zero support for your claims. The fallacies in your reasoning have been pointed out to you time and again, but rather than go back and do some fact checking, you simply puke the same claims out all over again. I can almost predict what you will post, and it gets little old and tedious after a while. I have been described as having the patience of a corpse, but you are wearing it down thin.
How delightfully graphic! Do you by any chance write for a living, Filthy? |
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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 10:09:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
Therefore, America, Russia/USSR and all other space-faring countries are in cahoots to lie to the world about their explorations of space.
It is easy to lie about space enterprises
because nobody can verify them.
Moreover, a liar doesn't unmask another liar
if he isn't stupid.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 10:24:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
YOU CAN'T CONFUTE THIS STATEMENT:
If your astronauts had gone to the moon, they would have crashed during landing and would have burned to death during re-entry at 40,000 kilometres per hour like asteroids.
It's easy to confute that statement, since if they crashed on the Moon, then they couldn't possibly burn up in re-entry. |
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pleco
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 11:04:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bigbrain
It is easy to lie about space enterprises
because nobody can verify them.
Moreover, a liar doesn't unmask another liar
if he isn't stupid.
No, you can't/won't verify it. That is your problem. This isn't a problem for 99.9999% of rest of the population.
I see you glossed over all of the scientists, media, astronomer hobbyists, etc. who are all (100%) either 1) liars or 2) ignorant. Any pearls of wisdom in reference to these people?
You also glossed over where all the monies went. Can you provide a fantastic explanation for that? |
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 09/17/2005 : 12:03:23 [Permalink]
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Is it not obvious? The money went towards the cover-up!
Just think of all those scientists and hobbyists that must be bribed if NASA's buffoons are to lie convincingly. Even upstanding physicists today have to be bribed to tell people that a 7 cm layer of plastic can protect astronauts from re-entry! Not to mention all the artists that produce the renderings for the images from the supposed Hubble space telescope.
It is also likely that NASA has developed some kind of powerful holographic device which fakes all the take-offs of the various satellites and space craft that NASA, ESA and other organisations supposedly send up. Do you think that comes cheap?
It sounds like a multi billion dollar industry if anything does! Hell, it would probably be much cheaper for them to actually send things up into space, just goes to show how simple NASA's buffoons really are... |
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