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@tomic
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 Posted - 10/24/2001 : 22:21:15 [Permalink]
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But there are laws saying you can't sell liquor within 1000 feet of a church.
Wow, what's the basis for this law? is it constitutional? I mean hell, it just makes the church goers drive further after services for a good belt of their favorite.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2001 : 23:27:05 [Permalink]
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Church signs are popping up all over the place (as usual this time of year).
"Fall Carnival, Oct. 31st (no costumes, please)"
It's quite pathetic, actually...
By the way, when I say "all over the place" I literally mean all over the freakin' town. The number of churches here is obscene, and they are becoming bigger and more extravegant every year. There's a 5 mile stretch of road leading to our house, and my wife and I have a minor daydream about opening some sort of bar or pub. But there are laws saying you can't sell liquor within 1000 feet of a church.
On this 5 mile stretch, I don't believe there's a single spot that qualifies.
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Geez, You live in Wheaton, IL?
Wheaton is the Bible capital of the US. There are more churches per square mile in Wheaton than anywhere else. I wonder if thats why the Theosophical Society has been pressured to move out. (It still hasn't and the churches have given up. They got tired of the lawsuits.)
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2001 : 13:05:54 [Permalink]
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But there are laws saying you can't sell liquor within 1000 feet of a church.
Wow, what's the basis for this law? is it constitutional? I mean hell, it just makes the church goers drive further after services for a good belt of their favorite.
@tomic
Gravity, not just a good idea...it's the law!
A church nearby tried that. Turns out, the store was built and selling beer before the church was built. They lost.
Interesting about the churches whole argument. They say that selling booze is a bad influence on kids. With the laws these days, if you don't have gray hair and a bunch of wrinkles, I'm gonna card you. So who is being "protected"? Answer: No one. It's a church attempt to impose their will on the rest of society.
Lis
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2001 : 13:22:34 [Permalink]
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But there are laws saying you can't sell liquor within 1000 feet of a church.
Wow, what's the basis for this law? is it constitutional? I mean hell, it just makes the church goers drive further after services for a good belt of their favorite.
Probably as Constitutional as the law that forbids alcohol sales on Sundays. Nothing pisses me off more (well, actually, lots of things do, but anyway) than needing a shot of cognac for a cream sauce on Sunday night, and not being able to get it anywhere. Stupid stupid stupid!
Why Blue Laws don't outrage the same Republicans (around here; I'm not stereotyping all Republicans! :D) that rail about freedom and whatnot I'll never understand. That make a big deal about how freedom is so important, but try to sell dildos (on any day) or alcohol on Sunday and see how important freedom is to them then.
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2001 : 13:50:10 [Permalink]
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Now where did I hear this? There's some states that sex toys are banned. Georgia? Alabama? Does someone know this? I'm too lazy to look it up. And in South Dakota no one gives a shit, so it doesn't concern me anyway. I was just curious.
Lisa
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2001 : 14:21:17 [Permalink]
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Right here in good ol' Alabama. It's one of those issues that are tied up in court, so while technically it's illegal, they aren't enforcing it. (The dildo thing; no one can buy alcohol on Sundays).
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/25/2001 : 23:10:05 [Permalink]
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Do you sew?
I have some nice silk headwear from Turkey
Ah shit, now why didn't I think of that! No, I don't sew, I hate it because they MADE me take sewing in Jr. High school. Whoops sorry, but the reminder of it, brings back so many aweful memories.
Anyway, I always get stuff made when I'm in Thailand so I'll do that when I go there next. Although I'd like to wear it now. I've had a lot of capes and 'wizzard' coats made, the lady who does them for me asked once, where I'd wear something like that. LOL, I wonder what she'll say when I request this thing.
That headwear from Turkey sounds lovely, wish I could see it.
Thanks for the idea.
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Garrette
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 03:21:56 [Permalink]
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I'm Republican and the blue laws piss me off, too. Fortunately, I can buy all the dildos I want, round-the-clock, seven days a week, but the neighbors are getting suspicious...
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The 'church-based' October 31 activities are frustrating to me, for two major reasons:
1. Most anti-Halloween nuts know next to nothing about it.
2. The church-goers can't take a joke. My brother-in-law puts on one of my areas most successful haunted houses. I suggested that he let me do a sort of mood-setting antechamber to perform some magic, including one trick in which the group signs a document agreeing to all of the rules of the haunted house (no touching the monsters, etc.). They are told to take the document with them but when the unfold it one room later they find that they've actually signed an agreement with the devil forfeiting their souls. My brother-in-law (who is personally quite open to such stuff) nixed it saying too many people would get mad and some would freak.
He's probably right which is why I'd REALLY like to do it.
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Trish
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 03:50:58 [Permalink]
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Well, your idea of a haunted house sounds better than 'Hell House'. If anyone has seen one, they are religiously motivated to show the evils of not obeying the xian faith. They attempt to show you just what your life is going to be like in hell for not following the tenets of their particular faith. Sick.
"Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith. I consider the capacity for it terrifying." ~Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. |
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 05:24:10 [Permalink]
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Well, your idea of a haunted house sounds better than 'Hell House'. If anyone has seen one, they are religiously motivated to show the evils of not obeying the xian faith. They attempt to show you just what your life is going to be like in hell for not following the tenets of their particular faith. Sick.
They had that on an episode of King Of the Hill. Hank's neice was drawn into some fundamentalists group that managed to get Halloween stopped, and then put on their own hell house. One of the scenes was a family sitting down to dinner, they call for 'grandpa' and a guy in an ape suit comes in and starts eating the baby. This of course is blamed on teaching evolution. Hank ended up defying the ban, putting on a costume and going trick or treating.
On the subject of dildos, I remember reading a greek play in college. The women of Athens were all upset because the men kept going off to war, and the current conflict has cut them off from the island that made the best dildos. So when the men come back between campaigns the women got togeather and told them no sex till they make peace. The plan worked and there were some intense (and fast) negotiations, possibly helped by the nude statue placed next to the negotiation table.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 05:36:53 [Permalink]
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On the subject of dildos, I remember reading a greek play in college.
Most of it sound like Lysistrate by Aristophanes. Can't remember the part of the island producing dildos though.
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James
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 05:58:44 [Permalink]
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2. The church-goers can't take a joke. My brother-in-law puts on one of my areas most successful haunted houses. I suggested that he let me do a sort of mood-setting antechamber to perform some magic, including one trick in which the group signs a document agreeing to all of the rules of the haunted house (no touching the monsters, etc.). They are told to take the document with them but when the unfold it one room later they find that they've actually signed an agreement with the devil forfeiting their souls. My brother-in-law (who is personally quite open to such stuff) nixed it saying too many people would get mad and some would freak.
He's probably right which is why I'd REALLY like to do it.
Do it, Garette. That's what Halloween is all about! If all the fun and all the frightening parts of Halloween were taken out, what would we have? Something that wouldn't be Halloween.
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ZaphodBeeblebrox
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 07:22:54 [Permalink]
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Wow, what's the basis for this law?
They're probably afraid of the Competition. After all, who wants to Drink Cheap Wine, and Eat Tasteless Crackers, when the Place next door, is Serving German Lager, and Pickled Eggs!
I know, I know, there Probably isn't a Catholic Church, on that Entire five mile Stretch, but I do know, that there's probably Liquor involved, Somehow. For most Religions, that's one of the ONLY ways, that they can get them inside the Door. Not Judaism though, we find that Food, works SO much better! Let me you, the Wine, may Still be Cheap(er, we do buy Wholesale, After All), but the Challah, at even the MOST Straight-Laced Orthodox Temple, has enough Eggs, to Kill you with Cholesterol Poisoning, and it Tastes so Good, that you don't mind.
Yeah, between the Challah, the Gefilte Fish, the Knishes, and the Tsimmis, Judaism is the only Religion, this Side of Polish Catholicism, where People Actually Convert, for the Food!
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The women of Athens were all upset because the men kept going off to war, and the current conflict has cut them off from the island that made the best dildos.
Let me guess, the Isle of Lesbos, Right?
If you Ignore Your Rights, they WILL, go away.
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balistic
New Member
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 08:35:22 [Permalink]
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Oddly enough, here in Provo, people go absolutely apeshit for Halloween . . . I've never seen so many haunted houses being run . . . and they've been going since the beginning of the month.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2001 : 17:29:48 [Permalink]
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Oddly enough, here in Provo, people go absolutely apeshit for Halloween . . . I've never seen so many haunted houses being run . . . and they've been going since the beginning of the month.
Brian "balistic" Prince
http://www.bprince.com
When I was a kid, (well, still am but let's say, some years ago), Halloween was not a big deal, no one put up elaborate decorations, especially weeks ahead of time. Of course there were store bought costumes but the fun was making your own. And the last minute standby was always the sheet with two holes cut out for eyes. It was a fun time and fantasy spooky, not dangerous or taken as serious. At least I never heard anyone turn it into any political agenda or complain that the Devil was going to really appear.
What IS wrong with some people? (They should)Get over it! Sheesh!
BTW, Brian, I saw your site, finally. Very nicely done. Is that your photo, with the dark glasses on? I like the use of negative space in it. You are not bad looking either, just too skinny.
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