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pleco
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I'm still waiting to hear if BB (whichever persona) will discuss the apparent existence of artificial satellites orbiting the earth. He (I guess) won't answer any other questions, why not that one...I was wondering if NASA (or NOAA) buffoons use Paint Shop Pro to give us those pictures of hurricanes and the spherical earth.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 06:13:19 [Permalink]
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It ain't no big deal. I'm starting another powderhorn -- the bison horn came out great. this one, a steer horn, has a left hand twist and will make a nice gift for my brother, if it comes out well. I'm going to carve and scrimshaw it, processes I've not tried before.
bbbb's return will provide welcome breaks from the knife, chisel, file and needle.
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sts60
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 06:50:38 [Permalink]
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I wrote code for a spacecraft computer using an 8086, with IIRC 128K each of RAM and EEROM. I didn't need all of it, and the code wasn't especially optimized except for a few parts written in assembly (most was written in C). The computer had no operating system at all. I'm always amused when I hear people expressing disbelief in the ability of the AGC to do its job. They think that because they need a gigabyte of RAM, a fancy video card, and a Pentium 4 to run Space Blasters, that they are competent to judge what would guide a real spacecraft.
By their understanding of things, given that today's cars won't run at all without the various computers under the hood and dash, a working automobile was impossible back in the '60s.
BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/11/china.space.ap/index.html) |
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pleco
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 08:08:31 [Permalink]
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| I am still amazed at what I could do on my Commodore Vic 20 with 5K RAM. Of course there was a "lot" on ROM, but still... |
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 11:07:08 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by sts60
I wrote code for a spacecraft computer using an 8086, with IIRC 128K each of RAM and EEROM. I didn't need all of it, and the code wasn't especially optimized except for a few parts written in assembly (most was written in C). The computer had no operating system at all. I'm always amused when I hear people expressing disbelief in the ability of the AGC to do its job. They think that because they need a gigabyte of RAM, a fancy video card, and a Pentium 4 to run Space Blasters, that they are competent to judge what would guide a real spacecraft.
By their understanding of things, given that today's cars won't run at all without the various computers under the hood and dash, a working automobile was impossible back in the '60s.
BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/11/china.space.ap/index.html)
CPU, the brain of computer, was invented in 1971.
"BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!"
How will they be able to re-enter without Shuttle tiles?
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 11:18:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
quote:
Originally posted by sts60
I wrote code for a spacecraft computer using an 8086, with IIRC 128K each of RAM and EEROM. I didn't need all of it, and the code wasn't especially optimized except for a few parts written in assembly (most was written in C). The computer had no operating system at all. I'm always amused when I hear people expressing disbelief in the ability of the AGC to do its job. They think that because they need a gigabyte of RAM, a fancy video card, and a Pentium 4 to run Space Blasters, that they are competent to judge what would guide a real spacecraft.
By their understanding of things, given that today's cars won't run at all without the various computers under the hood and dash, a working automobile was impossible back in the '60s.
BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/11/china.space.ap/index.html)
CPU, the brain of computer, was invented in 1971.
"BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!"
How will they be able to re-enter without Shuttle tiles?
Then how did UNIVAC run, bigbrain?
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furshur
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 12:01:46 [Permalink]
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BreakBalls isn't even trying to hide that he is Bigbrain anymore I guess...
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How will they be able to re-enter without Shuttle tiles?
Did you forget that you are a helicopter pilot who is only commenting on lunar landings?
You are so freaking pathetic.....
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 12:37:02 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
BreakBalls isn't even trying to hide that he is Bigbrain anymore I guess...
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How will they be able to re-enter without Shuttle tiles?
Did you forget that you are a helicopter pilot who is only commenting on lunar landings?
You are so freaking pathetic.....
I'm not bigbrain. I have read his arguments and I agree with him.
This picture of capsule re-entry is stunning http://reentry.arc.nasa.gov/images/APCV14.JPG |
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pleco
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 13:03:41 [Permalink]
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Now you are just a liar.
Any thoughts on those satellites yet? |
by Filthy
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Siberia
SFN Addict
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Posted - 10/12/2005 : 15:07:45 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
quote:
Originally posted by sts60
I wrote code for a spacecraft computer using an 8086, with IIRC 128K each of RAM and EEROM. I didn't need all of it, and the code wasn't especially optimized except for a few parts written in assembly (most was written in C). The computer had no operating system at all. I'm always amused when I hear people expressing disbelief in the ability of the AGC to do its job. They think that because they need a gigabyte of RAM, a fancy video card, and a Pentium 4 to run Space Blasters, that they are competent to judge what would guide a real spacecraft.
By their understanding of things, given that today's cars won't run at all without the various computers under the hood and dash, a working automobile was impossible back in the '60s.
BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/11/china.space.ap/index.html)
CPU, the brain of computer, was invented in 1971.
Ahem.
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from IBM's website.
In 1952, the company introduced the IBM 701, its first large computer based on the vacuum tube. The tubes were quicker, smaller and more easily replaced than the electromechanical switches in the Mark I (1944). The 701 executed 17,000 instructions per second and was used primarily for government and research work.
And that's just one company. Computers were around since long time before 1971 - they just didn't have the look and feel we're used to. CPU, as it has been said, is just a name and a concept. |
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Starman
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 00:39:24 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
CPU, the brain of computer, was invented in 1971.
Again, your unsupported claims are worthless.
The obviously false ones are pathetic.
Btw, why should the control system need an "advanced" computer? What kind of control function do you think we need?
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 03:03:19 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Starman
quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
CPU, the brain of computer, was invented in 1971.
Again, your unsupported claims are worthless.
The obviously false ones are pathetic.
Btw, why should the control system need an "advanced" computer? What kind of control function do you think we need?
Numbers please!
http://www.invent.org/hall_of_fame/55.html
"The first working CPU was delivered to Busicom in February, 1971".
Rockets are made to go forward, they can't go backwards.
Furshur http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Movie/LLRV/Small/EM-0019-01.mov
What's that got to do with LM? It's a totally different spacecraft and the movie is false.
Only helicopters can land staying vertical.
http://www.elifriulia.it/index.php?page=gallery
I'm that nice guy on the right in the picture at the top on the right.
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 03:37:17 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by breakballs
http://www.invent.org/hall_of_fame/55.html
"The first working CPU was delivered to Busicom in February, 1971".
Rockets are made to go forward, they can't go backwards.
That link does not support your claim or contain your quote. The page is about single-chip CPUs.quote:
What's that got to do with LM?
 Sigh...quote:
Rockets are made to go forward, they can't go backwards.
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It's a totally different spacecraft and the movie is false.
Only helicopters can land staying vertical.
Again, your unsupported claims are worthless.
The obviously false ones are pathetic.
Btw, why should the control system need an "advanced" computer? What kind of control function do you think we need?
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 05:25:07 [Permalink]
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What's that got to do with LM? It's a totally different spacecraft and the movie is false.
Only helicopters can land staying vertical.
Just incredible.
Just out of morbid curiosity BB, are you now saying that the Harrier jet (vertical take off / vertical landing), doesn't exist either.
I'm looking forward to your answer I've got a long day ahead of me and I need a laugh.
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pleco
SFN Addict
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 05:29:58 [Permalink]
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Or even jetpacks (which do exist)...
Still thinking about those satellites? It has only been at least 2 weeks since that question was asked and not answered (not by me, but I want to carry this torch). |
by Filthy
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