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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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I might add that dragon and damsel flies, and hummingbirds among many others take off and land vertically, fly sideways, and hover better than the best of helocopters with the most skilled of pilots.
I might add that, but I won't.... It's off-topic and we all know how much 'topic' means around here. 
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 10:55:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by furshur
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What's that got to do with LM? It's a totally different spacecraft and the movie is false.
Only helicopters can land staying vertical.
Just incredible.
Just out of morbid curiosity BB, are you now saying that the Harrier jet (vertical take off / vertical landing), doesn't exist either.
I'm looking forward to your answer I've got a long day ahead of me and I need a laugh.
Harrier jet is one of the biggest failure in the story of aviation.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 11:17:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by breakballs
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Originally posted by furshur
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What's that got to do with LM? It's a totally different spacecraft and the movie is false.
Only helicopters can land staying vertical.
Just incredible.
Just out of morbid curiosity BB, are you now saying that the Harrier jet (vertical take off / vertical landing), doesn't exist either.
I'm looking forward to your answer I've got a long day ahead of me and I need a laugh.
Harrier jet is one of the biggest failure in the story of aviation.
Bigbrain is right: you are big idiots without hope.
Not much of an indictment since you are bigbrain. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 11:21:14 [Permalink]
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Harrier jet is one of the biggest failure in the story of aviation.
What exactly does this statement mean?
Are you saying that the harrier does not take off and land vertically??
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 15:41:25 [Permalink]
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Harrier jet is one of the biggest failure in the story of aviation.
Right after the Hindenburg, no doubt...
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Originally posted by pleco:
I am still amazed at what I could do on my Commodore Vic 20 with 5K RAM. Of course there was a "lot" on ROM, but still...
Yes, I'm not the only geek who ever had a Vic 20!!! And yes, it is surprising how much you can do with extremely little computer power as long as Windows doesn't have to load first. I remember the big furore back when Windows NT was announced in the early 90's: it would require a whopping 8MB to run. MS-DOS ran happily with it's maximum allowed memory of 640kB. The Commodore 64 had to do with 64kB. The Vic 20 as we know with 5kB (of which only 3 were usable by programs for a reason I can't remember). And lets not forget the ZX81 - 1kB of memory. Heck, there was even a time when they had no memory at all (well, RAM at least) - anyone remember punch cards? Guess what BBBB - they were all useable. |
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 18:16:39 [Permalink]
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bigballsbreakbrain:
This has to be the lamest attempt at sock puppetry in the history of the web.
Now how about those artificial sattelites? |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2005 : 19:01:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Yes, I'm not the only geek who ever had a Vic 20!!! And yes, it is surprising how much you can do with extremely little computer power as long as Windows doesn't have to load first. I remember the big furore back when Windows NT was announced in the early 90's: it would require a whopping 8MB to run. MS-DOS ran happily with it's maximum allowed memory of 640kB. The Commodore 64 had to do with 64kB. The Vic 20 as we know with 5kB (of which only 3 were usable by programs for a reason I can't remember). And lets not forget the ZX81 - 1kB of memory. Heck, there was even a time when they had no memory at all (well, RAM at least) - anyone remember punch cards?
I used to have a little thing called a "KIT 2000" computer. The 2000 reflected the RAM (well, 2048 bytes, actually). It was a circut board with rubber feet on the bottom and a hex keypad and reset button on top. Had to be programmed by typing in the machine instructions directly. But, its output was through a TV signal, and you could put it in a mode to do 36x36 black-OR-white graphics. I made all sorts of nifty stuff on that thing, dutifully saving my programs to cassette tape (and yeah, I accidentally recorded a part of Pink Floyd's The Wall over top of some of my code - ugh).
And yeah, I remember punch cards (and paper tape). Perhaps ironically, one of the first computer games I played was a nifty version of Moon Lander on a massive IBM mainframe. You controlled the LM with a lightpen, all in vector graphics on what looked like an air-traffic control sort of radar display. If you managed to land safely the first time, you got to the second level, in which you had to land next to the McDonald's on the Moon. If you crashed into it, the game would berate you for destroying such a landmark (if you landed successfully there, a little astronaut would leave the LM, enter the restaurant, and then come out with a little to-go bag and climb back into the LM). |
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 03:33:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sts60
BTW, congratulations to Fei Junlong and Nie Haisheng!
(http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/11/china.space.ap/index.html)
You see an ugly rocket flying up in the sky in TV and you believe it is a great enterprise.
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furshur
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 05:29:10 [Permalink]
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Hey BB, I ask again, are you saying that the harrier cannot land and take off vertically?
Can't answer the question can you? If you say it can land vertically then you have just defeated your point, if you say it can't land vertically then you look even more ignorant (if that is possible) than before.
You have got to be the lamest most pathetic baffoon I have ever seen.
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CourseKnot
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 07:56:33 [Permalink]
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Harriers fall into the contraption catagory. There have been problems with them, but they can and do take off & land vertically.
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Harrier jet is one of the biggest failure in the story of aviation.
Bigbrain is right: you are big idiots without hope.
Not a failure, bbbb, but it is one of those projects that make one wonder: why bother?
So tell me, O dispenser of esoteric wisdom; do aircraft carriers really land jet airplanes on their flight decks in what amounts to a controlled crash, and sometimes is an actual crash?
Seems pretty unlikely to me.
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furshur
SFN Regular
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 09:21:05 [Permalink]
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Good find CourseKnot, I have been looking all over the net for a video of that Buck Rogers contraption. BB will just say it is a fake video, or ignore it - he never lets facts get in the way of his beliefs.
I agree with you Filthy, the Harrier is a pretty dangerous plane - I guess that is why only the marines (as far as I know) regularly fly the thing.
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breakballs
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 11:04:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CourseKnot
Check this out BigBrain
http://media.armadilloaerospace.com/DCX/DeltaClipper.mov
I think this proves you can take off and land with a rocket.
I think you are one of the biggest idiot I've ever seen.
That is a cartoon with poor effects.
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 10/14/2005 : 11:25:52 [Permalink]
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BB will just say it is a fake video, or ignore it - he never lets facts get in the way of his beliefs.
I WIN!
I know, I know that was not even a prediction that was a sure thing.
So BB you great big old cuddly buffoon - does the Harrier land vertically or not.
Get some balls BreakBrain and answer!
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