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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  22:57:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by furshur

What is the point Bigbrain?
You say "I don't believe it, show me a picture".
We show you a picture, and you say "I don't believe the picture".
Seems like a silly game to me...

No, it's not a silly game.

I would like to understand how Lunar Module could undock from the main spacecraft.

Look again at this picture:

http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/shadow/space_level2/apollo_moon.html

"An Apollo Command Service Module in orbit around the Moon. This photograph
was taken from the LEM as it broke away to land on the lunar surface".


Please, show me drawings or pictures of Lunar Module undocking because I can't find them.

Thank you







"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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filthy
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Posted - 09/26/2005 :  23:37:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
It is not a silly game to bigbrain. He is chasing Will o'the Wisp.



And like many a fixated soul preceding him, he will never quite grasp that Will is no more than a false and gasious ghost with neither substance nor any rational form.

The folk of the Middle Ages were terrified of Will. They saw in him all sorts of dire portents, just as bigbrain sees only his own mind's fantasy in NASA's works. He is incapable of grasping that the Apollo program was no more nor less than what it represented itself to be, and must resort to endless hand waving and shouting, and demands for more meaningless photos in place of producing hard evidence for his claims. Of which he has exactly none.

The interesting part of all this is the flourish with which he stuffs his fingers into his ears and sings, "La la la la, gimmie another picture!" whenever something solid is offered in contention with his beliefs. The fundie religious do much the same.

It's really a fool's errand to argue with him or any other dedicated follower of Will. The light is all around them, yet they can only see that faint glow of methane and must follow it ever deeper into the swamps and quagmires of their imaginations.

No skeptic he, our bigbrain, but merely another believer in another faith, skulking beneath a skeptic's cloak.

Will is dancing, and laughing out loud at his feverent follower.



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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  10:21:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message


Doesn't anybody know how Lunar Module could undock from the main spacecraft

Then there was no undocking and no lunar landing.

Then there was no man on the moon.

Then I'm right.



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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  11:05:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
That you can't find this stuff yourself is pathetic, bigbrain.

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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  11:12:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

That you can't find this stuff yourself is pathetic, bigbrain.

I have also looked at

http://apollo.spaceborn.dk/undocked.html

but I don't understand.

Can you show me drawings or pictures that I can understand?


Thank you






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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  12:34:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
In this picture

http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/imagery/apollo/saturnV.htm

You can see at the top:

CM
SM
LM

In this picture things stay in a different way:

http://www.apolloexplorer.co.uk/photo/html/apoll_ov/10074628.htm

Show me a section of these spacecrafts docked, please.

I'd like to understand.

Look at this image:

http://www.apollosaturn.com/asnr/p149a.gif

Fuel tanks at 2800 °C (5000 °F) = BOOOOOOOOOMMMM





"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Edited by - bigbrain on 09/27/2005 12:57:56
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  12:54:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by Dave W.

That you can't find this stuff yourself is pathetic, bigbrain.

I have also looked at

http://apollo.spaceborn.dk/undocked.html

but I don't understand.

Can you show me drawings or pictures that I can understand?


Thank you









While I seriously doubt you can understand the simplest of pictures,

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074639.jpg

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074630.jpg


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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  13:10:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074639.jpg
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074630.jpg

In this picture

http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/imagery/apollo/saturnV.htm

things stay in a different way:

CM
SM
LM

Are there two docking systems?








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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  14:04:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074639.jpg
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074630.jpg

In this picture

http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/imagery/apollo/saturnV.htm

things stay in a different way:

CM
SM
LM

Are there two docking systems?











No. In the picture you link to is the configuration at launch. The LM is stored below the SM behind panels.

In these pictures, you can see the retreival process.

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074624.jpg

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074627.jpg

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074628.jpg

You really should at least try to study the basics of the Apollo program. This is elementary stuff. This further damages any objection you make about the Apollo program since you don't even bother to find out about it before you blithely spout off about how it couldn't have happened and involke details.

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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  14:30:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074627.jpg

HA, HA, HA, then your spacecrafts could waltz in space in 1969.

And this is the famous Lunar Module on the spit:

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074639.jpg

All this is only ugly science fiction.






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furshur
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  14:41:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Like I said you are playing a silly game. You are a fool who is just trying to annoy people.




If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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filthy
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  17:01:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by furshur

Like I said you are playing a silly game. You are a fool who is just trying to annoy people.


A silly game indeed. I've noticed of a number of occasions that, when he thinks he's losing his audience, he'll come on like this:
quote:
I have also looked at

http://apollo.spaceborn.dk/undocked.html

but I don't understand.

Can you show me drawings or pictures that I can understand?


Thank you

And then, when he's reeled in a fish or two, it's this:
quote:
HA, HA, HA, then your spacecrafts could waltz in space in 1969.

And this is the famous Lunar Module on the spit:

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074639.jpg

All this is only ugly science fiction.


He is, I think, the most unique troll I've ever encountered. I'm beginning to wonder if his written accent is the real deal, or is he not from Italy at all, maybe?

Hey bigbrain, here's the picture yer lookin' for!





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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/27/2005 :  23:20:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by furshur

Like I said you are playing a silly game. You are a fool who is just trying to annoy people.

No, I'm not playing a silly game.

You have shown me only some paintings as usual.

When you were in this situation

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074627.jpg

Why haven't you taken one photo?

Before spiting Lunar Module, why haven't you taken one photo?

ANSWER: because you never made those manoeuvers, because your rocket never opened its petals

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074628.jpg

AS USUAL YOU HAVE NOT EVEN ONE PHOTO, ONE MOVIE OF THE MOST
EXCITING MOMENTS OF YOUR ENTERPRISES, ONLY PAINTINGS AND MOVIES
MADE BY 3D SOFTWARES.

YOU NEVER WENT TO THE MOON, MARS, SATURN, TITAN.
















"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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filthy
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  03:46:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by furshur

Like I said you are playing a silly game. You are a fool who is just trying to annoy people.

No, I'm not playing a silly game.

You have shown me only some paintings as usual.

When you were in this situation

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074627.jpg

Why haven't you taken one photo?

Before spiting Lunar Module, why haven't you taken one photo?

ANSWER: because you never made those manoeuvers, because your rocket never opened its petals

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074628.jpg

AS USUAL YOU HAVE NOT EVEN ONE PHOTO, ONE MOVIE OF THE MOST
EXCITING MOMENTS OF YOUR ENTERPRISES, ONLY PAINTINGS AND MOVIES
MADE BY 3D SOFTWARES.

YOU NEVER WENT TO THE MOON, MARS, SATURN, TITAN.





I vostri assetrions silly ed accusations falsi significano persino di meno che un singolo fart in un uragano. State andando mai rispondere alle domande, o progettate lo sguardo livellate lo sciocco più grande?


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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tw101356
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  03:54:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tw101356 a Private Message
quote:
...un singolo fart in un uragano.


I am damn lucky I swallowed that mouthful of coffee before reading your reply.

- TW
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