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Siberia
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  04:58:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Bigbrain... do we have satellites in the sky?

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  06:31:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by furshur

Like I said you are playing a silly game. You are a fool who is just trying to annoy people.

No, I'm not playing a silly game.

You have shown me only some paintings as usual.

When you were in this situation

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074627.jpg

Why haven't you taken one photo?

Before spiting Lunar Module, why haven't you taken one photo?

ANSWER: because you never made those manoeuvers, because your rocket never opened its petals

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/mirrors/images/images/pao/APOLL_OV/10074628.jpg

AS USUAL YOU HAVE NOT EVEN ONE PHOTO, ONE MOVIE OF THE MOST
EXCITING MOMENTS OF YOUR ENTERPRISES, ONLY PAINTINGS AND MOVIES
MADE BY 3D SOFTWARES.

YOU NEVER WENT TO THE MOON, MARS, SATURN, TITAN.



















Obviously logic escapes you. Now try to keep up here, I try to use small words so your possibly fake country of origin "language barrier" thing doesn't get in the way.

We could not get pictures or video from an outside source because

1) There were no other picture taking crews up there except for Apollo.
2) There exists video which shows the link up to the LM for extraction but from the view of the CM.
3) ground based cameras could not get a picture because of the limits of zoom photography and the huge distances involved.

You, sir, are completely ignorant of the basics of the Apollo program. I suggest you actually study it before you pooh-pooh it. Da Vinci is crying because of your idiocy.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  07:00:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Yup. Bigbrain asked:
quote:
Can you show me drawings or pictures that I can understand?
And when given what he asked (drawings), he ridiculed it.

Of course, Italy doesn't exist (I've ever only seen poor drawings and PhotoShopped nonsense), so we know that bigbrain is lying about that.

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filthy
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  07:04:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Eh, he's having fun. We are not the first he's tried to drive to distraction with this idiotcy.
quote:
Americans are not on Mars, never went to the moon too



I have already written these things in the forum "Mars Exploration Rover - Spirit - Update Thread - Pt. 2".
Someone wrote I was off-topic, then I open this new thread.

My first post was:
I think you never went to Mars.
Why do you never went to Mars?
Because after one kilometer you can no longer see the probe going to Mars. You have no telescope that can see it in its travel of 500 million kilometers in the darkness of universe. Hubble can't see like human eyes, it "sees" only lights coming from distant places of universe.
You can't see Mars, you can't see your probe, but magically your probe lands on Mars attracted by its perfume of carbon dioxide.
Have you found any software that can drive your probe to a target 500 million kilometers distant?

TheChemist wrote:
Well, you don't need a bigbrain to figure that out
Welcome to the boards...

I wrote:
If you go here: http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=sciastro&Number=137121&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=34&vc=1
What are you seeing?
A wavy sea brown-red painted by Photoshop.

Leovinus wrote:
Suppose we did go to Mars and did take color pictures and did transmit them to Earth. How would you forsee those pictures differing from the pictures you linked to?

I wrote:
You are right. It's difficult, very difficult to see the difference: perhaps we are seeing sand dunes.

TheChemist wrote:
"If you 're interested in a flyby of the Columbia Hills, here is your chance :
http://marsrover.nasa.gov/gallery/video/spirit01.html
Extremely cool"

I wrote:
About that video Nasa say:
"The U.S. Geological Survey created the three-dimensional digital terrain model using images from the Mars Orbital Camera on the Mars Global Surveyor satellite".
There is a mistake, this text is correct:
"The U.S. Geological Survey created the three-dimensional digital terrain model using images made with 3D softwares like Softimage, Maya, 3D Studio Max.
This is due to the fact that our probe going to Mars lost itsself in the darkness of universe. Our binoculars have no longer seen it".

TheChemist wrote:
Bigbrain,
There are other fora in these boards for discussing conspiracy theories like "our probes are not really on Mars".
This thread discusses Spirit's progress for those who believe the rovers have reached the red planet.

I wrote:
I have not found "our probes are not really on Mars".
Let me know where is this site.
But, don't you see all movies are faked?
In 1969, at the beginning of the space race, cameras were not yet reliable and jerk along.
But today why does Nasa use a few frame per second and not the standard (30 frame per second?).
Have not they enough money to buy better cameras?
Why does Nasa use that orrible wide-angle lens?
Nasa would have gone to Mars to demonstrate that USA are the most powerful country in the world.
But movies of Spirit are too ridiculous. They are good only for children.
Spirit looks like a human eyed ostrich.
It can turn its head in all directions. It doesn't need wide-angle lens to move safely.
If you want to demonstrate your powerfull to all the world, go close to Mars and film it raising from the darkness of universe using 30 frames per second.
THAT WOULD BE A MARVELLOUS AND FANTASTIC SIGHT.
THAT WAY YOU WOULD DEMONSTRATE YOUR POWERFUL
not with ugly movies that jerk along like films made in 1900.
Go on Mars and film panorama using 30 frames per second, don't film thousands of stones, FILM PANORAMA
WITHOUT WIDE-ANGLE LENS.
SPIRIT LOOKS LIKE A HUMAN-EYED OSTRICH AND IT'S EASY FOR IT TO LOOK AT EVERY DIRECTION.
IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, IT MEANS YOU ARE NOT ON MARS AND ALL YOUR MOVIES ARE FAKED.
Nasa can't say today with the new hard disks that their movies are made this way not to store too many data.
PLEASE EDIT LAST POST: 04/29/05 THIS DATE IS FAKED



And so forth. In due course, bigbrain will gibber off to some other board, perhaps one that will feed him a richer diet. I might suggest the message boards found on this site.



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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  11:11:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

We could not get pictures or video from an outside source because
there were no other picture taking crews up there except for Apollo.

Were not your powerful computers of 4k RAM that guided your spacecrafts?

You had:

CMGS (Command Module Guidance System)
SMGS (Service Module Guidance System)
LMGS (Lunar Module Guidance System)

33 gyroscopes
33 sensors
33 microjets

9 Vertical Attitude Checkers (VAC)
9 Horizontal Attitude Checkers (HAC)

9 Rocket Braking Devices ( RBD) with 9 Foot-Brakes (FoB)

With all these goods of God, couldn't you take at least one picture
when you spited LM?

Your enterprises are only SCIENCE FICTION.




"Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit" (Flattery gets friends, truth hatred)
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  11:22:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bigbrain

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

We could not get pictures or video from an outside source because
there were no other picture taking crews up there except for Apollo.

Were not your powerful computers of 4k RAM that guided your spacecrafts?

You had:

CMGS (Command Module Guidance System)
SMGS (Service Module Guidance System)
LMGS (Lunar Module Guidance System)

33 gyroscopes
33 sensors
33 microjets

9 Vertical Attitude Checkers (VAC)
9 Horizontal Attitude Checkers (HAC)

9 Rocket Braking Devices ( RBD) with 9 Foot-Brakes (FoB)

With all these goods of God, couldn't you take at least one picture
when you spited LM?

Your enterprises are only SCIENCE FICTION.







Pretty weak rebuttal considering you have no clue about the operation of the craft.

Pathetic. Actually learn the basics of Apollo before you claim you have some insight on it.

Since you are ignorant of even the basics of the Apollo mission including very basic flight operations that any 5th grader knows in the US, I will remind you that Da Vinci studied and knew the subject matter he spoke about.

The curtian has fallen. The Wizard is exposed. The King is naked.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  11:57:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
For everyone else who just might like some engineering drawings of spacecraft.

Launch configuration

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/diagrams/ad003.gif

How the panels work

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/diagrams/ad012.gif

Docking video

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Apollo_15_TandD.ogg

(requires WikiMedia)

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Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 09/28/2005 12:09:22
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  12:36:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message





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bigbrain
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  14:01:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bigbrain a Private Message
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

For everyone else who just might like some engineering drawings of spacecraft.

Those are not engineering drawings

THOSE ARE WALT DISNEY DRAWINGS AND
LUNAR MODULE LOOKS LIKE MICKEY MOUSE

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/diagrams/ad012.gif

HA, HA, HA




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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  15:48:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Bigbrain... do we have artificial satellites in the sky?

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

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Dude
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  16:04:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Why are we still feeding this imbecile?


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Siberia
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  16:07:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

Why are we still feeding this imbecile?


Boredom, I guess.

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  16:25:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Bigbrain... do we have artificial satellites in the sky?


I asked him this several pages (or was it threads?) ago. He ignores the question because the answer will shatter his cognitive dissonance. If he answers, he will implode.

I'm surprised the guys with the big Italian butterfly net haven't caught him yet.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/28/2005 :  18:33:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

For everyone else...
And a few videos which don't need WikiMedia:

Apollo 11 LM undocks from CM

A little later after undocking

LM docking with CM after ascent from Moon

The last is pretty crappy quality.

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CourseKnot
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USA
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Posted - 09/29/2005 :  04:58:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CourseKnot a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse









LOL

Just flying through space with the rest of you...
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