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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/14/2005 : 03:55:47 [Permalink]
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Doc, as far as I am concerned, you can expletive the fucker to your heart's content. After all everything the US does affects Sweden and everyone else in some way, to greater or lesser extent.
I think it was a Canadian who once said something to the effect that being in the world with us is like sleeping with an elephant. Every time the elephant farts, you know it all too well.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 07:32:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
valiant dancer
Credits for being the first person I've ever seen use the term "ultraliberal". As you see in the foregoing postings the biggest complaint about the right is we use the word "liberal" as an attack.It looks like noone wants to accept that public experience made that a bad word. I can't say I'm unhappy with that. You believers, just keep on believing.
Because public experience does not make it a bad word. TVA was a liberal program. WPA was a liberal program. Rural electrification was a liberal program. Medicare was a liberal program. All of these worked well. The first three have since ended since the goals have been met. The last has been tinkered with and beset by longer living citizens. Should we not forget other liberal programs like the GI Bill. Have there been excesses? Absolutely. On both sides of the fence. For instance, supply side economics, advocation of welform termination, and faith based initiatives. The conservatives have klinkers, too.
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Zell Miller is a "wing nut". Keep it up. Yes! Keep attacking every moderate or conservative with the Dem. label. We'll take all the Dem. defectors you supply.
I'm not attacking moderates or conservatives. I'm attacking ultraconservative loons, like Miller. If you really want the ultraconservative, theocracy advocating, demonizers of opposition, you're welcome to them.
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Regards from the "ultraconseravative attack monkey". That's persuasive stuff! vrwc
If you are laying claim to that title, then you're welcome to it. Or is your name Kay Bailey Hutchison?
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 07:39:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
Dr Mabuse
Oh yes, I saw the N.G. reference. It is not correct. The Katrina hurricane did not produce "thousands" of dead.
Reports about the aftermath also did not properly identify the statutory levels of government response. In this country the federal government is not empowered to move in to a state and sweep aside the local authorities. Since you're a foreign national I wouldn't expect you to know this, but the Big Media "news" people who botched the reporting of this event, should have. I'm sure you did not hear how the LA governor, Blanco, blocked Red Cross/Salvation Army relief trucks (vanguard of the FEMA relief column). LA was the only state to experience this delay of federal relief because the othe state governors were better prepared.
I'll also request you forgo expletives about our President, at least on internal affairs. It's bad enough hearing it from our country's left wing who prefer invective to drebate. vrwc
Since reading for context is not your strong suit, I'll re-iterate what the quote was from.
National Geographic in 2004. This was not an article about Hurricane Katrina. It was about some disaster modeling done last year which predicted that a storm of this magnatude would produce the casualties referenced and the failures referenced. The failures were accurate. The casualities were overstated. (Oftentimes happens in disaster modeling so as to take a wosrt case senario and prepare accordingly.)
Perhaps you could focus on basic reading skills and context before spouting off. |
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vrwc
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 18:26:49 [Permalink]
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Dr Mabuse
Big Papa Smurf
"thousands died".Lousiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals records 841 deaths related to the storm. Reported in the Washington Times. Don't take my word, check with LA. vrwc |
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vrwc
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 19:01:16 [Permalink]
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Dave W
I've gone back to your original posting of 10/10 and reread every one since. I see no reference to a "question I said didn't matter". I believed my last answer was responsive to your 11/8 posting. If I've "ignored the questions that do matter" then, it appears you didn't pose them. To those who did I'm working on them,as promised,
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 19:02:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
Dr Mabuse
Big Papa Smurf
"thousands died".Lousiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals records 841 deaths related to the storm. Reported in the Washington Times. Don't take my word, check with LA. vrwc
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 19:29:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
I've gone back to your original posting of 10/10 and reread every one since. I see no reference to a "question I said didn't matter". I believed my last answer was responsive to your 11/8 posting. If I've "ignored the questions that do matter" then, it appears you didn't pose them.
Why were you responding to my 11/8 posting a second time? You already replied to it, and my response was posted on 11/9, in which I specifically ask you for details on who is using McCarthy to avoid debating the issues, and what those issues are.
Obviously, you missed that, despite having "reread every one since." |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 11/14/2005 : 22:58:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
Dr Mabuse
Big Papa Smurf
"thousands died".Lousiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals records 841 deaths related to the storm. Reported in the Washington Times. Don't take my word, check with LA. vrwc
Still able to miss the point completely.
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pleco
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 05:57:20 [Permalink]
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Actually, the total death count right now is around 1300, with about 800 or so from New Orleans. But it is JUST 1300, not thousands. Therefore, no one really predicted the Katrina situation at all. 
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 07:23:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by vrwc
Dr Mabuse
Big Papa Smurf
"thousands died".Lousiana Dept. of Health and Hospitals records 841 deaths related to the storm. Reported in the Washington Times. Don't take my word, check with LA. vrwc
vrwc, please ask someone to read my previous posts for you, then let them explain to you what they mean. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 07:29:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Doc, as far as I am concerned, you can expletive the fucker to your heart's content. After all everything the US does affects Sweden and everyone else in some way, to greater or lesser extent.
Filthy, I'm sorely tempted to start using expletives elsewhere...
vrwc is definitely confirming my prejudices against republicans, so I'm starting to wonder if they really qualifies as prejudice? If they all walk like ducks and quack like ducks, any lay their rotten eggs everywhere, what am I to think? |
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Dave W.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/22/2005 : 12:18:00 [Permalink]
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Dave W.
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vrwc
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Posted - 11/28/2005 : 19:13:00 [Permalink]
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They weren't concerned with whether their programs did good or harm; they wanted to feel good about their own compassion. No amount of the taxpayers' labor was too large to keep them feeling good.
If "liberal" is a slur, the public's experience with liberal rule made it that way.
Actually, no. The self defined conservatives have demonized liberal programs. Just like the self defined liberals have done to conservatives.
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The allegation of liberal motive being to keep the participants feeling good about themselves relates to the political practice of continuing government spending programs after they've repeatedly failed to do what they were supposedly intended for.
Isn't one definition of "Fanatacism" the repeated attempt to do something that has failed before with the belief that the results will be different next time?
In this instance the "Great Society" programs consumed almost 3 trillion of taxpayers' labor without lowering the poverty level. vrwc |
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