Grand Nubian
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Posted - 11/14/2001 : 06:01:31
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The following are posts I've made on another board in a thread and would also like to get everyone's thoughts here as well. This will explain why some comments are out of context.
BTW...just wanted to add that talking about jews while talking about the WTC is very relevant,since it was owned by a jewish person.
Larry Silverstein already owned number Seven WTC, but he led a consortium that just months ago signed a new $3.2 billion US, 99-year lease on the WTC complex. That was the first time the WTC had changed hands in it's thirty year history.
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey signed the deal with the Silverstein the 26th April, 2001. The deal was finalized and celebrated on the 23rd July.
Silverstein said "This is a dream come true," & "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights." An ironic choice of words, in retrospect.
The leased buildings included Numbers One and Two (the Twin Towers), Four, Five and 400,000 square feet of retail space. The Marriott Hotel (3WTC), U.S. Customs building (6WTC) and Silverstein's own 47-story office building were already under lease.
Despite the transfer to private hands, the tax payments would still come from the Port Authority -who had been making yearly $25 million payments in lieu of taxes to New York City. The proper figure should be more like $100 million according to city administrators.
This is one man that makes the jewish financial connection to the destruction.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/BUSINESS/asia/09/12/aust.westfield.biz/index.html
Did the united states plan the attack on afghanistan months before 9*11? http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_1550000/1550366.stm
More support that the attacks may have already been planned on afghanistan. http://www.indiareacts.com/archivefeatures/nat2.asp?recno=10&ctg=
If so, what would be the reason that american forces would plan attacks on afghanistan in advance? http://www.house.gov/international_relations/105th/ap/wsap212982.htm
The Indiareacts article demonstrates the war against the Taliban was being planned approximately 4 months or more before the 911 attack. Our source is India, Pakistan, and the British via BBC.
Of course, as it's been alleged that a couple terrorist named by the FBI were trained AT US military bases. http://www.msnbc.com/news/629529.asp#BODY
The only defense offered for this alleged training is; quote:
One military source said it is possible that the hijackers may have stolen the identities of the foreign nationals who studied at the U.S. installations.
If this is true, where are the men that really match these id's? Can't they be found anywhere after training as secret military bases?
More funny business: http://www.copvcia.com/]http://www.copvcia.com/ http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008
The 48 Hours anchor was interviewing the Head of Security of the WTC about the evacuation who had received a call, after the South tower was down, from the Port Authority's Command Center on the 22nd floor asking for rescue. The Head of Security himself travelled to that floor in the company of a NY Fireman where they found the offices devestated to the point where they had to "tunnel through debris" to "dig out" the two or three Port Authority workers who were trapped there.
All of this happened 73 floors below crashbombing impact.
I have an image of an anomaly, looking like an explosion on the FIRST tower to collaspe, but before the tower collaspes. Image available at every website known to man. If you want me to send it to you simply email me.
Below I present what I think are incontrovertable reasons for concluding that the WTC/Pentagon crashbombings were a frame-up designed to benefit members of, at least, these four groups:
1) people profiting from the opium trade of the Northern Alliance druglords and the money-laundering through global investment channels that the opium trade and the derivative heroin trade supports;
2) people seeking control of the $6 trillion worth of oil and natural gas in Central Asia;
3) people seeking to win back support to increasingly unpopular Sharonist policies in Israel; and
4) people arraigned before a grand jury on charges of fixing gold prices, illegal involvement in oil swaps between Kazakhstan and (sanctioned) Iran, and bribery in cases where all incriminating documentary evidence was stored in FBI files and data banks in one of the twin towers of the WTC.
All four of these groups have fluid secret channels of communication through networked integration of banking, politics, the CIA and Mossad connections. The fact is if one of these groups was complicit the other three would have to be also. quote:
From Retired U.S. Army colonel, Donn de Grand Pré
THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES
by Donn de Grand Pré
A dedicated group of experienced civilian and military pilots, including combat fighter pilots and commercial airline captains, just finished a marathon 72 hours of non-stop briefings and debate over the current crisis evolving from the use of commercial aircraft as cruise missiles against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 11 September.
The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.
As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the attack, from a psychological impact on the American public, equaled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941.
The over-riding question: If we are at war, who is the enemy?
The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the Federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop build-up and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve and National Guard units.
In each of the major wars of the 20th century, the financial manipulators (located in the City of London and New York City) had placed the US (and much of the Western world) in a monetary expansion mode, followed by an ever-tightening vice of a gigantic credit squeeze. We now have two ongoing and tightly controlled simultaneous events (emanating from the two symbolic targets of 911:
1) Alan Greenspan, Fed chairman, promising to flood the market with up to $200 billion in FRNs and to further lower interest rates, thus bringing about hyperinflation and dollar devaluation. Much of these multi billions in largesse will be dumped into the coffers of Wall Street, Defense, bankrupt airlines, insurance companies and into the willing arms of debt-ridden third-world countries in the form of debt repudiation (forgiveness). Call it bribery, in order to get these often reluctant nations to join our coalition of "freedom fighters" in "the war against terrorism".
2) Paul Wolfowitz, deputy Defense secretary, promised that the US will launch "sustained military strikes against those behind the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington". He said that the "military retaliation would continue until the roots of terrorism are destroyed."
In 1997-98 the Congressional Joint Economic Committee held hearings on "Radio Frequency Weapons and Proliferation: Potential Impact on the Economy". Several experts appearing before the Committee warned that these weapons pose a distinct threat to the United States. It was revealed during the hearings that China (PLA) has had a high-powered microwave weapon program for 25 years under the direction of one of many Chinese students educated at Berkeley over the years.
The key statement was that the PLA has access to American research -- "through espionage".
Let's fast-forward to 1999 and to a New York Times Op Ed piece by A. M. Rosenthal (22 Oct 1999), in which he described the long-secret arms deals between Israel and Red China He was the managing editor of the New York Times for 15 years prior to that article appearing and a dedicated supporter of Israel. However, as a result of that article, he was fired.
The title of his Op Ed was "The Deadly Cargo", and the lead sets the theme:
More often now, the special cargo arrives in China from Israel -- riles from Israeli military computers, crates with the makings of missiles and other weapons, and the men in the lab coats, the engineers and scientists who know how to put it all together...
More of what non american(non jewish) media have to say about 9-11.
Bin laden connections in london? http://www.mathaba.net/z.htm?http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2001/2838bin-london.html
Backyard terrorism http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4287795,00.html
Bin laden is america's product? http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~lamoureu/america.htm[/URL]
Germany says "CIA involved with opium trade in afghanistan and china" http://www.sabinehinz.de/31-08.htm
List of US military operations, many unknown to americans, and many more may have taken place. http://www.un-archiv.de/UN-Ausgaben/UN8-99/artikel2.htm
This is a Flight simulation of 9-11 showing that our military had enough time to shoot down the planes. http://www.usatoday.com/graphics/news/gra/gflightpath2/flash.htm
Civilians casualties kept secret in afghanistan. http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2001/11/12/007.html
American terrorism in afganistan http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2001/11/12/007.html
More BS excuses for killing civilians URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/attack/atwar/011031/5.htm
Did I leave anything out? Yes. I left out a lot of stuff but I'm sleepy.
------------------ The brainwashed open their mouths and speak, then their stupidity is measured.
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
President Wilson 1913
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government every since the days of Andrew Jackson..."
President Roosevelt 1933
"You are assigned a certain role in government somewhere, and then your success is monitored and tracked, and you go where the pluckers and the handpickers can put you."
Rush Limbaugh 1995
This is another article outlining future plans for the rule of afghanistan. The link is acting pretty weird so I posted the entire article.
UN Outlines Vision for Afghanistan By EDITH M. LEDERER Associated Press Writer
November 13, 2001, 1:04 PM EST
UNITED NATIONS -- The United Nations envoy called Tuesday for a two-year transitional government backed by a multinational security force in Afghanistan.
Lakhdar Brahimi, outlined a plan before the U.N. Security Council to bring Afghanistan's many ethnic and tribal groups together "as early as humanly possible."
He envisioned a meeting between the U.S.-backed northern alliance, whose forces captured Kabul on Tuesday, capping a five-day drive to the capital, and representatives of other ethnic groups to discuss the framework for a political transition.
Brahimi said the goal would be to convene a provisional council that reflects the country's ethnic diversity. He suggested it should be chaired "by an individual recognized as a symbol of national unity," an apparent reference to Afghanistan's exiled king, Zaher Shah.
The 87-year-old monarch, who has lived in Rome since he was ousted in 1973, is seen by some as a unifying figure in a possible transitional government.
Under Brahimi's proposal, the council wiould put together the two-year transitional government. During that period, a loya jirga, or grand council of prominent Afghans, would draw up a constitution and a second gathering would approve it and create a permanent Afghan government.
Brahimi, an Algerian diplomat, said turning around "a collapsed and destitute state" that has become a breeding ground for terrorists would require the political and financial support of all nations.
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan wants Brahimi's deputy to travel to Kabul soon, and the United Nations is eager to try to get its staff back into the country and to deliver humanitarian aid.
Brahimi said a government ruled by Afghans "would be far more credible than one run by U.N. officials parachuted in," he said.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-attacks-post-taliban1113]http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-attacks-post-taliban1113 nov13.story
Another addition to the oil saga:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200111\FOR20011113e.html
And lastly, a report that the most current event may have been an attack our gov. was warned about.
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20011113-11640902.htm
Edited by - Grand Nubian on 11/14/2001 06:04:51
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