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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 02/11/2006 : 10:09:05 [Permalink]
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One real ray of hope, at least in the UK:
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In London, people gathered for a demonstration to denounce the drawings.
The organizers of the protest said they hoped to stage a peaceful rally. They want to show that law-abiding, moderate Muslims who are enraged about the cartoons also shun the violence that has greeted the drawings.
Several thousand Muslims gathered in Trafalgar Square with placards saying "Mohammed Equals Mercy to Mankind" and "United Against Islamaphobia."
Muslims in Britain seem to be framing the issues fairly, with their "why pick on our religion?" approach, while avoiding violence. Good points, and this is probably very reassuring to the Brits. The are clearly more aware of democratic values than the jihadis elsewhere. Hell, I'd even consider demonstrating along with them, after first carefully examining their slogans.
Elsewhere, though, the flames are being fanned hotter and hotter. Denmark is having to close embassies in Syria, Iran, and Indonesia. In the first two counties, no demonstrations can happen without government approval, and probably direction.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/14/2006 : 23:53:33 [Permalink]
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marfknox said:
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It will be so fucking awesome if the international Jewish reaction to Iran's contest amounts to shrugging of shoulders and "Yeah, we've been picked on left and right forever. Big whoop." I'll tell you one thing - I'd be willing to bet good money no Jews will be burning embassies over it.
It's happening, after a fashion. In even a better way, maybe.
"Israeli group announces anti-semitic cartoons contest," was Wikinews' headline. Here's the contest link:
http://www.boomka.org/
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Israeli group announces anti-Semitic cartoons contest!
February 14th, 2006
A Danish paper publishes a cartoon that mocks Muslims.
An Iranian paper responds with a Holocaust cartoons contest -
- Now a group of Israelis announce their own anti-Semitic cartoons contest!
Amitai Sandy (29), graphic artist and publisher of Dimona Comix Publishing, from Tel-Aviv, Israel, has followed the unfolding of the “Muhammad cartoon-gate” events in amazement, until finally he came up with the right answer to all this insanity - and so he announced today the launch of a new anti-Semitic cartoons contest - this time drawn by Jews themselves!
“We'll show the world we can do the best, sharpest, most offensive Jew hating cartoons ever published!” said Sandy “No Iranian will beat us on our home turf!”
The contest has been announced today on the www.boomka.org website, and the initiator accept submissions of cartoons, caricatures and short comic strips from people all over the world. The deadline is Sunday March 5, and the best works will be displayed in an Exhibition in Tel-Aviv, Israel.
Sandy is now in the process of arranging sponsorships of large organizations, and promises lucrative prizes for the winners, including of course the famous Matzo-bread baked with the blood of Christian children.
For more info contact:
Amitai at amitaiss@yahoo.com or 972-54-316-4117
The traditional Jewish sense of humor triumphs again.
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nescafe
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USA
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/15/2006 : 18:06:12 [Permalink]
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Thanks, nescafe, that cartoon was hilarious!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/16/2006 : 20:20:12 [Permalink]
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There's been a huge, overwhelmingly positive, reaction to the Israeli Anti-Semetic Cartoon Contest. Many new letters, and they are also about to start posting entries.
One "entry" already posted is not going to be in the competetion, because the nature of the contest is Jewish Anti-Semitism only:
These guys had a truely brilliant idea. Civilized people can laugh at themselves.
Watch this link:
http://www.boomka.org/
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2006 : 04:46:44 [Permalink]
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Here's a interview on NPR's Fresh Aire, linked from the site...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5219479 |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/17/2006 : 06:23:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by nescafe
and in a slightly related vein, Scientists Riot over Latest Chick Tract.
Wow! Thanks for the warning, nescafe.
Of course, we should have seen it coming after the the remorseless scientists salted Australia with cane toads and rabbits and mice and feral house cats in order to throw that country into secular confusion. They scattered fire ants throughout the deep south in the US as well, doubtless in the dead of night when the righteous were asleep as decent folk ought to be.
It was the scientists who put leporsy, a Godly punishment for the foulest of sinners, in armadillos! No longer do cries of, "Unclean, unclean!" ring out through the countryside as they should, for the leporsy of the Bible can now be forced into remission! We know the scientists are responsible for this heresy because we never heard of such a thing until they started messing around with around with it with their 'experiments' (in reality: demonic ceremonies!).
And who but the souless scientists would kill polio, one of The Lord's blessed creations that He used so well to cripple and punish those children who might not worship Him as blindly as He might desire?
The list of blasphenies committed in the name of science is endless, but the time is rapidly approaching when these heathen will supplicate on bended knee before being shot in the head -- we shall be merciful in our triumph!
Thank God for the wise Prophet, Jack Chick! Thank God for our devout leader, George Bush! Thank God for Mark Rushdoony, who will lead us away from the evils of free thought by any means necessary!
Oh, there are glorious times a'coming, praise Jesus, when we cast the perfidious ivory-tower eggheads into the perdition they so richly deserve! Gehenna will overflow with their burning, shrieking souls! "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!" shall be our rallying call, and all will tremble as we inflict The Almighty's wrath and vengence upon them!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 02/17/2006 : 11:56:29 [Permalink]
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Such a reasonable fellow, Rushdoony. All he and his elect theofascist bretheren want is God's rule on earth:
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"To oppose us is to attack God's law," Mark Rushdoony testified to nearly 200 followers from four states, "and to attack God's law is to attack God himself!"
Anyone have an island somewhere where the Christian Reconstuctionists, Wahabi Islamists, and Shi'ia theocrats can be resettled together, and given plenty of small arms and ammo, but no boats? How about Inaccessible Island, in the South Atlantic? They would need leadership, of course, and people with, say, bird hunting skills.
Maybe let the Scientologists into the party as well. I'm sure others have some suggestions for the guest list. It would be an interesting experiment in microevolution.
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Snake
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 01:16:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I'm sure others have some suggestions for the guest list. It would be an interesting experiment in microevolution.
Let's include much of the news media, Michael Moore and Jesse Jackson for starters. They certainly are instigators of ill willed propaganda too. |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 04:41:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Snake
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I'm sure others have some suggestions for the guest list. It would be an interesting experiment in microevolution.
Let's include much of the news media, Michael Moore and Jesse Jackson for starters. They certainly are instigators of ill willed propaganda too.
Gee, funny that the main points in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 911 turned out to be true, isn't it? It's a BS 'talking points' campaign to discredit him that has everyone calling him "liberal" names. What has Jackson instigated? Are you sure you aren't mixing him up with Sharpton? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 13:20:50 [Permalink]
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Let's include much of the news media, Michael Moore and Jesse Jackson for starters. They certainly are instigators of ill willed propaganda too.
"Ill willed propaganda" is in the eye of the beholder, Snake. I seem to recall a gentler pre-Bush age when the Bill of Rights protected "propaganda" of all kinds in the country, not just the spewings of the ruling party. Used to be Libertarians were among the first to defend free expression. (Actually, that's still true.) I was mainly looking for dangerously violent types to add to the guest list of my imaginary "Survivor: Inaccessible Island," but you are of course welcome to suggest people from the moderate Left or Center if you wish.
Thank Darwin for Moore. Yes, he does use propagandistic techniques to get his points across, and often merrily skips steps of logic. I don't like that at all. On the other hand, as B said, he was mainly correct. Jesse Jackson stood with Martin Luther King in the darkest days of racist Klan reaction during the civil rights movement. I was a very small part of that movement, and I'm cutting Jesse a lot of slack for his courage.
The news media? There's a violent lot! You'd throw in Fox's Brit Hume, who did that softball interview of Cheney after the shooting? How about the rest of the GOP propaganda mill at Fox "News"? The Moonies at the Washington Times? Or are you thinking only of the people you don't like, such as those few media types at the New York Times and the Washington Post, who still do some authentic journalism from time to time?
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Snake
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Posted - 02/18/2006 : 18:57:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
"Ill willed propaganda" is in the eye of the beholder, Snake. I seem to recall a gentler pre-Bush age when the Bill of Rights protected "propaganda" of all kinds in the country, not just the spewings of the ruling party. Used to be Libertarians were among the first to defend free expression. (Actually, that's still true.) I was mainly looking for dangerously violent types to add to the guest list of my imaginary "Survivor: Inaccessible Island," but you are of course welcome to suggest people from the moderate Left or Center if you wish.
Thank Darwin for Moore. Yes, he does use propagandistic techniques to get his points across, and often merrily skips steps of logic. I don't like that at all. On the other hand, as B said, he was mainly correct. Jesse Jackson stood with Martin Luther King in the darkest days of racist Klan reaction during the civil rights movement. I was a very small part of that movement, and I'm cutting Jesse a lot of slack for his courage.
The news media? There's a violent lot! You'd throw in Fox's Brit Hume, who did that softball interview of Cheney after the shooting? How about the rest of the GOP propaganda mill at Fox "News"? The Moonies at the Washington Times? Or are you thinking only of the people you don't like, such as those few media types at the New York Times and the Washington Post, who still do some authentic journalism from time to time?
It's difficult to follow all of what you have said but here's some answer to part of it.
Jesse Jackson does cause potential violence by rushing to events and inciting emotions to create divisions amongst people. He may at one time been part of a movement toward bringing people together. I do think Martin King had good intentions. (although there shouldn't be a day set aside for a person of religion, there are plenty of other great people who could be honored just the same). Jackson on the other hand if he had those intentions, which I doubt, he is now a showman, a spotlight seeker. I have no respect for anyone like that. Most of the time he appears somewhere it's comical, he sticks his nose in where he has no business and probably things would be better or work themselves out if he stayed away. He appears too shifty to me.
I don't know what the reference to Moore being correct is. He's a jerk from what I see. He has the Rush Limbaugh mentality of Us against Them. He's like those radio talk show hosts who don't let a caller finish a point but have control over the microphone so there's nothing one can do. Emphasis on 'show'.
I don't know anything about Brit Hume, although I do think I'd know who he is by his photo. I think I saw him somewhere. The only news caster on a so called Fox channel I know of is Steve Edwards. He's ok, although the two ladies he works with are pretty dumb, I don't watch that show. But the point is, Edwards I believe does the kind of 'news' that isn't news which is what I see......or don't see elsewhere anymore because I stopped watching it. They report things that aren't important. Like the 'shooting'. Why in the world a big deal was made of it I have no idea. It should have been a quick two line story, and on to the next item. It's a waste of time, mine anyway, to follow unimportant things like that. I'd rather know what congress was getting by us. Instead so many were concerned with what all ready happened, that couldn't be changed, in a personal matter between two friends.
> "The Moonies at the Washington Times? Or are you thinking only of
> the people you don't like, such as those few media types at the New
> York Times and the Washington Post, who still do some authentic
> journalism from time to time?"
Don't know anything about those papers, sorry can't comment. I only occasionally see news on TV. The only programs I regularly watch for information are the BBC report on the PBS station and the WSJ (Wall Street Journal) Report. The papers I get are the Siam Media, Thaitown news and Thai LA, and the LA Daily News but only for the coupons. I live in Los Angeles, ... the NY Times! Why would I read that? Where would I get it? By the time I could get to a news stand that has out of town papers the news would be old. And I bet they charge a lot for it too. I pay less than .20 cents for the papers I get. And that's too much!
So there you have it. All the news that's fit to print. Other than that, I can't answer what I don't understand what you'd said.
As for you wanting 'violent types' guess I missunderstood since you mentioned Scientologists as well. I know they've done some nasty things in the past but I'd hardly put them in the same breath as those who want to blow up the world. Maybe the terrorists could do something to them. |
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