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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 02/07/2006 : 19:56:47 [Permalink]
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R.Wreck espoused: quote:
Just when you thought this couldn't get any more idiotic.
This should be educational, at least among non-Muslim-fanatics. Though strong outrage will doubtless be expressed for the vile, revisionist anti-Semitism the Tehran newspaper is inviting, I suspect it will be generally manifested in a more constructive and far less violent form than that displayed by the jihadi fruitcakes.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 20:06:37 [Permalink]
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Iran's best-selling daily, Hamshahri, on Tuesday announced it is running an international cartoon competition on the topic of the Holocaust
It will be so fucking awesome if the international Jewish reaction to Iran's contest amounts to shrugging of shoulders and "Yeah, we've been picked on left and right forever. Big whoop." I'll tell you one thing - I'd be willing to bet good money no Jews will be burning embassies over it. |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 20:57:49 [Permalink]
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10705393/
Yet another landmark in this fiasco, fatalities.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 21:27:38 [Permalink]
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The big question is: Who's going to be the first to market a novelty "bomb turban"?
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 21:31:12 [Permalink]
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Dude resolved: quote:
Yet another landmark in this fiasco, fatalities.
Yup. The first fatalities were a day or two ago. There'll be more, mullahs willing.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 21:45:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Carry a Danish flag? Do you know how many wars we have fought?
Yes, but the last time we did, we kicked their ass... 
None the less, I feel ashamed that the Swedish government didn't stand tall and supportive of the Danish government.
The Swedish media hasn't reported about any demonstrations outside the Libanese and Syrian embassies in Stockholm. Unfortunately, I live too far from Stockholm to do anything, and it's too fucking cold to be standing outside for a period of time. Not many days ago it was -16°C (0°F)...
Maybe I'll print out some of the pics and post them on walls in my home town, with some nice text. Like "Self-censorship at the threat of violence is still censorship" or similar. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 22:13:06 [Permalink]
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R.Wreck quoted earlier: quote:
Ben Franklin cut to the root of the issue (as he often did):
quote:Anger is never without Reason, but seldom with a good One
Franklin -- is there anything wonderful he didn't do, say, discover, invent, fuck, or write? Remarkable man! His funeral bier was carried by the combined leading Anglicans, Calvinists, Freethinkers, Catholics, and Jews of Philadelphia.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 22:34:29 [Permalink]
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Quoth Doctor Mabusius: quote:
None the less, I feel ashamed that the Swedish government didn't stand tall and supportive of the Danish government.
Though Bush has consulted with the Danish PM over the crisis, I don't think he's made any public statement of support for the Danes, either.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 02/07/2006 : 23:47:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Though Bush has consulted with the Danish PM over the crisis, I don't think he's made any public statement of support for the Danes, either.
No shit!
Where do you think the loyalties of the fundies on Downing Street and Pennsylvania Ave. lies? With free speech or religious authority?
Remember the law that Blair tried to get accepted just a few weeks ago? |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 23:57:11 [Permalink]
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Starman made known: quote:
Remember the law that Blair tried to get accepted just a few weeks ago?
No, I have not the foggiest idea. Please remind me.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 02/08/2006 : 03:50:56 [Permalink]
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Blair tried to introduce The Racial and Religious Hated Bill which would create a new offence of incitement to religious hatred and would apply to comments made in public, in the media or in writing.
Critics, among them Rowan Atkinson feared that this would make it illegal to ridicule and criticize religions. quote:
The speakers emphasised that any decision to prosecute under the legislation would be decided by the attorney general, a politician and conviction carried with it the risk of a seven-year jail sentence.
Mr Atkinson said: "What's most creepy about this bill is the decisive power it hands to the government."
From BBC : Q&A: Religious hatred law |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
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Posted - 02/08/2006 : 04:55:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
One a side note, if I were one of the artists or newspaper editors who are now in hiding, I would be doing some careful thinking about the rioting and deaths my actions triggered. I'm not saying I blame those people, but I do know I would be having serious ethical qualms, myself. I think that is an entirely separate matter from legally guaranteed free expression.
That's always a tough one. Have they done more harm than good? Time will tell I guess. The "greater good" is something most of us can understand on at least some level, but when it affects you personally, people tend to get, well, personal.
If someone said to me I could abolish all (insert your favourite evil/religion here) by sacrificing the life of one of my family members, I'd find that tough for a number of reasons. This is an extreme, not particularly realistic hypothetical I know, and I'm not challenging anyone to provide their response to this situation, but just trying to make a point.
Real world "noble sacrifices" are almost never as easy as those faced by Bruce Willis or Arnie.  |
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
Australia
800 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2006 : 05:45:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
I like Australia's approach to this nonsense:
http://headlines.sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13924046
It's a good sentiment. Unfortuntely, I fear that if push comes to shove, our pollies will somehow develop spontaneous acute chronic spinelessness.
In the case of our illustrious treasurer, he may be keen on ejecting the "radical" muslims simply to increase the relative proportion of his preferred religion in the populace. You can read an article about his attendance at cult meetings (as pictured below) here. You have to scroll down a couple of paragraphs, to the article titled: "The Right Honourable Happy Clappy, MHR"
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/08/2006 : 12:12:37 [Permalink]
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JohnOAS stated: quote:
That's always a tough one. Have they done more harm than good? Time will tell I guess.
Yeah, sometimes, "I just don't know yet," is the best available answer to tough questions. I just hope people think these things over carefully.
Europe, Oz and America alike are straining to varying degrees under the burden of an Islamic influx, some of which seems to be doing the opposite of assimilating. The PM of Denmark claims that the cartoon rioting started only after a handful of jihadist Danish mullahs visited their Muslim homelands, and spread not only word of the cartoon "outrage," but new lies such as a Danish government "plan" to publish a translation of the Koran with Allah's name censored out. That last doesn't even make sense, but it was enough to rouse the Faithful back home to screaming, murderous outrage. I hope, but don't assume, that those mullahs aren't welcomed back by the Danes!
In the US, we have the problem, too, but to a probably much more manageable degree than in some Europen nations. Many of the Mullahs here work with groups of other churches, and tend to be moderates. Hopefully, there is some kind of screening process to keep out the fanatics, without violating their legitimate religious freedoms. A tough act to perform.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/08/2006 : 12:17:39 [Permalink]
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Starman answered: quote:
Blair tried to introduce The Racial and Religious Hated Bill which would create a new offence of incitement to religious hatred and would apply to comments made in public, in the media or in writing.
Critics, among them Rowan Atkinson feared that this would make it illegal to ridicule and criticize religions.
Thanks for that info. I hadn't known. That kind of law would be counter to our Constitution here. The Brits aren't "hampered" by a constitution, and sometimes come up with really draconian laws. Sometimes we do, too, at least under Bush's unconstitutional rule. But here, it's still an illegal aberration.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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