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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2006 :  05:31:32  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Because this is what they result in, and it is good. We know that it is all a good thing because Bush and his fellow travelers tell us so, and of course, Bush has never felt the need to admit a mistake.
quote:
Programs Bush Wants to Cut or Kill
By The Associated Press
Thu Feb 9, 6:21 PM ET

The 141 programs that President Bush proposed to eliminate or cut in his 2007 budget, with potential savings in millions:

EDUCATION

Educational technology state grants, $272 million

Even Start, $99 million

High school programs terminations:

Vocational education state grants, $1,182 million

Vocational education national programs, $9 million

Upward Bound, $311 million

GEAR UP, $303 million

Talent search, $145 million

Tech prep state grants, $105 million

Smaller learning communities, $94 million

Safe and Drug-Free Schools state grants, $347 million

Elementary and secondary education program terminations:

Parental information and resource centers, $40 million

Arts in education, $35 million

Elementary and secondary school counseling, $35 million

Alcohol abuse reduction, $32 million

Civic education, $29 million

National Writing Project, $22 million

Star Schools, $15 million

School leadership,$15 million

Ready to Teach, $11 million

Javits gifted and talented education, $10 million

Exchanges with Historic Whaling and Trading Partners, $9 million

Comprehensive school reform, $8 million

Dropout prevention program, $5 million

Mental Health integration in schools, $5 million

Women's Educational Equity, $3 million

Academies for American History and Civics, $2 million

Close-Up fellowships, $1 million

Foundations for Learning, $1 million

Excellence in Economic Education, $1 million

Higher Education Programs:

Education demos for students with disabilities, $7 million

Underground Railroad Program, $2 million

State grants for incarcerated youth offenders, $23 million

Postsecondary Student Financial Assistance Programs:

Perkins Loan cancellations, $65 million

Leveraging educational assistance programs, $65 million

Byrd Scholarships, $41 million

Thurgood Marshall Legal Educational opportunity, $3 million

B.J. Stupak Olympic scholarships, $1 million

_Vocational rehabilitation programs:

Supported employment, $30 million

Projects with industry, $20 million

Recreational programs, $3 million

Migrant and seasonal farmworkers,$2 million

Teacher Quality Enhancement, $60 million

Total $3,468 million


That is only in Education -- there is much, much more.

Our government and our country has been hijacked by a Confereracy of Dunces who are determined to drag the rest of us down to their abyssimal level of intellectual poverty and outright ignorance. The sooner that we are rid of these corrupt, cretinous, and mendatious poltroons, preferably by deserved and and in many cases long overdue incarceration, the sooner we can start repairing the disasters they have wrought.

Yesterday is not fucking soon enough!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!


Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 02/10/2006 10:05:18

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 02/10/2006 :  09:02:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Well, filthy, it certainly wouldn't do for the peons to remain better educated than the President and his men, would it?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/11/2006 21:48:42
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 02/10/2006 :  09:38:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
As I recall, Bush called himself “the education president.”


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2006 :  04:26:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Well Kil, that was a big clue. Bush also actually said, "War is Peace". And of course we know how they pick names for bills like the Clean Air Act, etc.
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Snake
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  21:15:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

That is only in Education -- there is much, much more.

Yesterday is not fucking soon enough!



That's for sure. You know that saying, something about... If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got.
Well, those cuts can't come soon enough. The more the better.
Look at education in the USA, it's sucks. Something needs to be done and throwing money at it hasn't helped.
Here in Los Angeles some government officals want to build more 'homeless' shelters. That only encourages those bums to come here. Get the bums out and the bad school boards out and put the money to better use.
One thing would be nice, give it back to the people who actually earn it. Let them put their kids in schools that serve better than public ones.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2006 :  07:48:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Snake

quote:
Originally posted by filthy

That is only in Education -- there is much, much more.

Yesterday is not fucking soon enough!



That's for sure. You know that saying, something about... If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got.
Well, those cuts can't come soon enough. The more the better.
Look at education in the USA, it's sucks. Something needs to be done and throwing money at it hasn't helped.
Here in Los Angeles some government officals want to build more 'homeless' shelters. That only encourages those bums to come here. Get the bums out and the bad school boards out and put the money to better use.
One thing would be nice, give it back to the people who actually earn it. Let them put their kids in schools that serve better than public ones.



You do realize that some of the education cuts are for training new teachers and college aid don't you, Snake?

Some of the programs he was talking about cutting I can agree with. Quite a few in education (including funding for some of his No Child Left Behind" programs) are counterproductive.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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NubiWan
Skeptic Friend

USA
424 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2006 :  09:28:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
$3,468 million X 3 = 1 month of the Iraqi war


Guess we do have to have priorities, huh?

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2006 :  11:01:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Look at education in the USA, it's sucks. Something needs to be done and throwing money at it hasn't helped.


And you think that taking $3,468 million will?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2006 :  11:05:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
The total of all terminations and reductions comes to $14,483 million.

Using these statistics from the CIA World Factbook:

quote:
0-14 years: 20.6% (male 31,095,725/female 29,703,997)
15-64 years: 67% (male 98,914,382/female 99,324,126)
65 years and over: 12.4% (male 15,298,676/female 21,397,228) (2005 est.)


That's 234,931,412 people who are over 15. That comes down to about $62 per person.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 02/13/2006 11:09:42
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Snake
SFN Addict

USA
2511 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2006 :  22:52:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Snake's Homepage  Send Snake an ICQ Message  Send Snake a Yahoo! Message Send Snake a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
You do realize that some of the education cuts are for training new teachers and college aid don't you, Snake?

Some of the programs he was talking about cutting I can agree with. Quite a few in education (including funding for some of his No Child Left Behind" programs) are counterproductive.


If the 'would be' new teachers are anything like a lot of the ones my kids had or the teacher girl friend (to be fair, I don't know if her teaching skills are good or bad, but anyone who believes in past lives therapy leaves some questions)of my brother then they aren't getting very good training now. Do you want to pay for training more bad teachers? But anyway, I think they can find the money. They sure find it for projects that really don't need doing. LOL, like that bridge in Alaska we keep hearing about.
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