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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 03/03/2006 : 18:51:48
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Click here for your reading pleasure.
What are these people smoking?
(edited to make link not mess up the SFN homepage)
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 19:27:02 [Permalink]
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House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature.
Oh the irony...
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a Christian god
Which one? One of the seven spirits?
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State representative David Sater of Cassville in southwestern Missouri, sponsored the resolution, but he has refused to talk about it on camera or over the phone.
What a chickenshit coward. If you are going to put for something like that, at least have the balls (or faith) to defend it! Putz. |
by Filthy
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Dave W.
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 19:45:19 [Permalink]
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The American Taliban rears its ugly head, once again.
One of the televised networks, maybe ABC, did a spot on this story on the evening news. There was the usual crap-ola lies/mis-information about how "this is a christian nation founded on christian principals", along with pushing another pile of dung about how "our founding fathers were all christians". HORSE HOCKEY!
The segment then went streetside quizzing people about the bill. The general consensus was that "it was a bad idea". I hope that holds true.
Here's Americans United for Sep. of Church/State take on it....
http://blog.au.org/2006/03/resolutely_wron.html |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 20:41:42 [Permalink]
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| Irony is right. How the hell do these people rationlize in their brains that the majority needs protection? Protection from what? |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2006 : 21:34:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Irony is right. How the hell do these people rationlize in their brains that the majority needs protection? Protection from what?
Smells like Munchausen by Proxy. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 09:31:37 [Permalink]
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The resolution:
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SECOND REGULAR SESSION
House Concurrent Resolution No. 13
93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY
4572L.02I
Whereas, our forefathers of this great nation of the United States recognized a Christian God and used the principles afforded to us by Him as the founding principles of our nation; and
Whereas, as citizens of this great nation, we the majority also wish to exercise our constitutional right to acknowledge our Creator and give thanks for the many gifts provided by Him; and
Whereas, as elected officials we should protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs while showing respect for those who object; and
Whereas, we wish to continue the wisdom imparted in the Constitution of the United States of America by the founding fathers; and
Whereas, we as elected officials recognize that a Greater Power exists above and beyond the institutions of mankind:
Now, therefore, be it resolved by the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-third General Assembly, Second Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, that we stand with the majority of our constituents and exercise the common sense that voluntary prayer in public schools and religious displays on public property are not a coalition of church and state, but rather the justified recognition of the positive role that Christianity has played in this great nation of ours, the United States of America.
Don't these buffoons have some real problems to solve? Why are they wasting their time on this nonsense?
While searching for the exact text of the bill, I came across this page which just happens to be the journal of the Missouri General Assembly for 2/12/01. The first thing they did was have a prayer:
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Stir up Your power, O Lord, and come among us with great might; and because we are sorely hindered by our sins, let Your bountiful grace and mercy speedily help and deliver us; through Jesus Christ, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.
Why the fuck is any governmental body anywhere in this country allowed to include this kind of stuff in its official business? The arrogance is astounding. |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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Randy
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1990 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2006 : 09:39:28 [Permalink]
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| Truely an opiate for the masses. |
"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson |
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geo berri
New Member
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2006 : 13:19:51 [Permalink]
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Just like the asshole they elected to office they will try to change our long lived and fair constitution into their dogmatic vision for a xian government. This regime we are under at the moment is allowing the religious right to have their own way and virtually promoting it. This is a shameful time in the history of our nation. It reminds me of when people owned other people or burned them on stakes and prohibited them from pleasures during prohibition. When will the xian right(wrong) get it? We are a nation of FREEDOM FROM & OF religion. Democracy is a double edged sword, you may not like what the other guy is doing but you have to allow him his rights because you would expect the same. If I wanted to live in a religious controlled government I'd move to the middle east.
Didn't they ever hear the old saying Never mix politics with religion? |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 18:44:03 [Permalink]
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These fools are getting bolder. In a way, it just signals their demise. Like someone drunk with power, next will be the infighting, then the masses rise up to restore common sense.
These guys are too stupid to realize they really do not all follow some perfect religion, guided by the hand of God. Instead, they all have their own petty little personal view of religion and very few agree with eachother on even a small portion of those views. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2006 : 21:57:02 [Permalink]
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These guys are too stupid to realize they really do not all follow some perfect religion, guided by the hand of God. Instead, they all have their own petty little personal view of religion and very few agree with eachother on even a small portion of those views.
That is why they require a common enemy, which allows them to put aside differences and unite.
However, in this modern age, common enemies are getting harder and harder to come by. |
by Filthy
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 11:45:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by R.Wreck
While searching for the exact text of the bill, I came across this page which just happens to be the journal of the Missouri General Assembly for 2/12/01. The first thing they did was have a prayer:
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Stir up Your power, O Lord, and come among us with great might; and because we are sorely hindered by our sins, let Your bountiful grace and mercy speedily help and deliver us; through Jesus Christ, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.
Why the fuck is any governmental body anywhere in this country allowed to include this kind of stuff in its official business? The arrogance is astounding.
Why is this not OK with you? There is no endorsment of religion here. Politicians have every right to pray to whatever God they want to whenever they want to. If people don't like them doing it they can vote them out of office. Just because you work for the government does not mean you cannot talk about your religion in public. Politicians can even run for office on a platform that they will install Christian, Islamic, etc. values in government. You do not have to vote for them. |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 11:51:45 [Permalink]
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| Hes talking about prayer as a part of the legislatures session, if im not mistaken. They can pray to Satan after the official state business. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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geo berri
New Member
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 12:10:24 [Permalink]
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| Prayer and religious doctrine should be a private matter and not in any way reflected on the public at large. I wonder how it would go over if one of our elected officials recited an islamic prayer or a secular piece. No doubt in my mind that the xians in the US would be up in arms, literally. If my elected officials want to pray in private that's fine with me but I don't want them blessing me with some unseen entity. That's just rude. |
Throw open the windows of your life and let the winds of knowledge blow through your mind, geo |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 12:26:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Why is this not OK with you? There is no endorsment of religion here. Politicians have every right to pray to whatever God they want to whenever they want to. If people don't like them doing it they can vote them out of office. Just because you work for the government does not mean you cannot talk about your religion in public. Politicians can even run for office on a platform that they will install Christian, Islamic, etc. values in government. You do not have to vote for them.
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through Jesus Christ, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.
Sounds like an endorsement to me, don't you think? |
by Filthy
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InsultMohammed
New Member
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 13:32:31 [Permalink]
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| How has this resolution made it as far as it has? I'm dumbfounded. I've got no words for this, really. |
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