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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 03/08/2006 : 18:21:26 [Permalink]
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Franken does great standup, and his books are a riot.
His talk-radio show is pretty boring though.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2006 : 18:39:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Filthy quote:
The backlash to all of this super-conservative crap is gonna be fun!
Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. I'm not convinced that enough Americans truly grasp how bad things are compared to how good they could have been. I think the reign of rich-fucks-conservatism (I say "rich fucks" because the Bush administration has hardly been conservative when it comes to spending, pissing off many traditional conservatives) could go on a lot longer.
Then again, some bookies in Vegas were setting up odds for betting on whether Bush's approval ratings would dip under 30%.
I hope you are right, Filthy, I hope you are right.
History tells me that I am correct. It's only a matter of time.
Hoard canned goods and stockpile ammunition. 
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2006 : 00:59:54 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Bill scottquote:
Originally posted by Starman
With Danny Goldberg in charge, canceling everything of value this is no surprise.
Who wants to listen to Jerry Springer for 3 hours?
Apparently what you consider to have "value" the rest of the market just considereds crap,
Of course "value" and "crap" are subjective, but then a show can be canceled for other reasons than poor appeal to the target audience. quote:
hence the try at JS to bring in anyone who has a pulse to listen to Al.
"Springer on the Radio" is (my guess based on what I've heard)not on the air because people like the show.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2006 : 01:37:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
March 7, 2006 -- AIR America is close to losing its New York flagship station - knocking Al Franken and his liberal colleagues off the air on their second anniversary.
Guess what? !!! I had never known about this before. Someone on this website or in a few posts a while ago had talked about it but I didn't know where to listen to it. Well! The other day while fiddling with the dial in the car, suddenly there it was. Only caught a second of it when they went to commercial. By the time I got to my destination the show hadn't come on again but I made a note of the station and today tried to listen again. All I got was that Franken guy trying to make fun of Bill O'Reiley. And I think he was talking to someone else briefly either a guest or a caller but Man was it boring. Has he ever gone to broadcasting school? I really wish there was some content to the show. I'll try again but I can see why (so far) no one is interested in listening.
BTW, what he said about Bill IMO was out of context, as is a lot of misinformation on talk radio, in order to create tense situations and rally people to a phony cause, so I also see no difference in this show compared to any other one of this type. He just needs to learn how to liven it up so it will be a SHOW. |
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 02:36:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Snake
BTW, what he said about Bill IMO was out of context, as is a lot of misinformation on talk radio, in order to create tense situations and rally people to a phony cause, so I also see no difference in this show compared to any other one of this type.
Yea right! Poor ol' Bill is always taken out of context. Must be a pretty long and strange context.
Keith Olbermann video with comments Stern, Franken and the caller "Mike(Mick) from Orlando".
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He just needs to learn how to liven it up so it will be a SHOW.
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Bill scott
SFN Addict
USA
2103 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2006 : 09:05:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Dave W. wrote: quote:
I once forced myself through 15 whole minutes of Franken's show. Ugh. Either it was just a low point, or Franken sucks nowadays. I can't say that I gave it a good sampling, but I can still long for the good-ol'-days (for example, his spots on the Daily Show during the 2000 campaign - or maybe it was Arianna Huffington who made those worth watching).
Bill wrote: quote:
I once did tune in via the webcast and that guy (Al Franken) he is just mad at the world it would appear.
My dad's about as liberal as they come, but he's not to fond of Al Franken. His theory is that Franken is a comedian, but that recently he's just become so angry about the politics in America, and that's coming through so he's not funny anymore.
I remember when Air America was first coming on and all these liberals on NPR were all in a tizzy of excitement about it – we were going to have our version of Rush! Yay! But maybe the problem is that liberals don't want to listen to pundits as much as conservatives do. I don't enjoy Moore's documentaries all that well ‘cause I always feel like I'm being emotionally manipulated. (I'm not criticizing Moore. He's quite good at what he does and indeed, he is not a liar.) But I'd rather hear more detached analysis and factual reports. I don't know if that is the norm for liberals, but it is for me.
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My dad's about as liberal as they come,
(bill) But yet he is uncomfortable with your brother hanging out with gays? Hmm, that is interesting.
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but he's not to fond of Al Franken. His theory is that Franken is a comedian, but that recently he's just become so angry about the politics in America, and that's coming through so he's not funny anymore.
(bill) I would agree. People who are seething angry have a hard time coming off as funny. Take dude for an example...
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I remember when Air America was first coming on and all these liberals on NPR were all in a tizzy of excitement about it – we were going to have our version of Rush! Yay! But maybe the problem is that liberals don't want to listen to pundits as much as conservatives do. I don't enjoy Moore's documentaries all that well ‘cause I always feel like I'm being emotionally manipulated. (I'm not criticizing Moore. He's quite good at what he does and indeed, he is not a liar.) But I'd rather hear more detached analysis and factual reports. I don't know if that is the norm for liberals, but it is for me.
(bill) I would agree with you here marf. I would be considered a conservative I suppose with the position I hold on most flash point topics of the day. Yet I can not stomach more then 15 minutes of Rush L. without wanting to reach through the radio and just smack him, even if it was just once. So instead I just do |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2006 : 23:17:57 [Permalink]
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Bill wrote: quote:
(bill) But yet he is uncomfortable with your brother hanging out with gays? Hmm, that is interesting.
Where did you get that notion? One of my brother's best friends is gay and has spent the night at my parents' house when my bro lived there. My dad is perfectly fine with my brother's and my gay friends. A while back I wrote something along the lines of saying my dad was somewhat uncomfortable with homosexuality in general, and that my brother wasn't at all. But I never said my dad was uncomfortable with my brother hanging out with gays. What's more, my dad gets passed any feelings based on bullshit prejudice and he supports legal same-sex partnership and equal gay rights.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 01:05:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Bill, this is not the first time you have taken something someone said and interpreted it to mean something you wanted it to mean.
That seems to happen a lot on this site (as well as in e-groups, etc., and anywhere that people talk about ideas). No one wants to really listen. Some people on this site are too pig headed to want to listen. And only a very few are intelligent enough to actually say something worth reading.
No wonder Air America is tuned out!
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 03:30:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Snake
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Originally posted by marfknox
Bill, this is not the first time you have taken something someone said and interpreted it to mean something you wanted it to mean.
That seems to happen a lot on this site (as well as in e-groups, etc., and anywhere that people talk about ideas). No one wants to really listen.
Some people on this site are too pig headed to want to listen. And only a very few are intelligent enough to actually say something worth reading.
Pig headedness is usually used to indicate stubbornness and/or stupidity. The former is probably more common than the latter around here. I generally quite enjoy the dialogues on these forums, even in the topics I'm not particularly interested or well versed in.
One of the things I do like is the fact that there's not too much of the unconditionalclique-like mentality. Sure, on some occasions significant proportions of the "regulars" will rally somewhat to support/attack someone that deserves it, but I find that tiresome alliances are rare.
While it makes me somewhat nervous about rambling on (like this?), it does force me to think before I write. I'm under no illusion that just because I agreed with someone on one issue, that they wouldn't hesitate to argue vehemently with me over the next one, or even "tear me another one" (verbally) should I need it. I like that.
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No wonder Air America is tuned out!
As an inhabitant of the other hemisphere, I've never heard it. I still sleep most nights.  |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 05:03:10 [Permalink]
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As an inhabitant of the other hemisphere, I've never heard it. I still sleep most nights.
10/4 on that John. A big 10'4! Me too, and I'm in the offending hemisphere.
I don't listen to the motormouths at all. Life is too short and music is too good, and transcritps are always available.
I did catch Rush Limbaugh's act during his brief sojourn on the toob. Never have I beheld such smug and unwarrented self-satisfaction in a single human being.
But, I suppose that I really should say something nice about him -- I'm a liberal, after all. It's a strain, but here goes: He wears really great neckties and in the highly unlikely event that I ever start wearing them, I'm gonna get me a dozen just like 'em!
See? Us flaming liberals are willing to give every credit where it is due...
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Bill scott
SFN Addict
USA
2103 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 05:07:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Bill wrote: quote:
(bill) But yet he is uncomfortable with your brother hanging out with gays? Hmm, that is interesting.
Where did you get that notion? One of my brother's best friends is gay and has spent the night at my parents' house when my bro lived there. My dad is perfectly fine with my brother's and my gay friends. A while back I wrote something along the lines of saying my dad was somewhat uncomfortable with homosexuality in general, and that my brother wasn't at all. But I never said my dad was uncomfortable with my brother hanging out with gays. What's more, my dad gets passed any feelings based on bullshit prejudice and he supports legal same-sex partnership and equal gay rights.
Bill, this is not the first time you have taken something someone said and interpreted it to mean something you wanted it to mean.
So your dad is uncomfortable with homosexuality but yet at the same time he does not mind your brother spending the night with gays and rallys for homosexual domestic partner causes? What was I thikng, what is there to misinterpret here? *sigh* |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 14:14:51 [Permalink]
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Air America's OKquote:
The Nation Fri Mar 10, 4:32 PM ET
The Nation -- If you read the New York Sun or the New York Post, you might be under the impression that WLIB, Air America Radio's New York City affiliate, is going under.
Another contradictory view.
Seems the neocons love a BS story whether they check their facts or not. So I'll take a wait and see approach here. Funny they mention Ed Schultz as a rival program with clear channel when Schultz is on Air America. |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
1496 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 15:07:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
...Seems the neocons love a BS story whether they check their facts or not. So I'll take a wait and see approach here...
When this thread started I checked some other sources and found no mention except in rightwing rags, so I gave it no further consideration.
Air America:
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trogdor
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 15:50:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
quote:
Originally posted by marfknox
Bill wrote: quote:
(bill) But yet he is uncomfortable with your brother hanging out with gays? Hmm, that is interesting.
Where did you get that notion? One of my brother's best friends is gay and has spent the night at my parents' house when my bro lived there. My dad is perfectly fine with my brother's and my gay friends. A while back I wrote something along the lines of saying my dad was somewhat uncomfortable with homosexuality in general, and that my brother wasn't at all. But I never said my dad was uncomfortable with my brother hanging out with gays. What's more, my dad gets passed any feelings based on bullshit prejudice and he supports legal same-sex partnership and equal gay rights.
Bill, this is not the first time you have taken something someone said and interpreted it to mean something you wanted it to mean.
So your dad is uncomfortable with homosexuality but yet at the same time he does not mind your brother spending the night with gays and rallys for homosexual domestic partner causes? What was I thikng, what is there to misinterpret here? *sigh*
I kinda agree with filthy's dad. I enjoy hanging out with my GLBT friends, but if they start to make out, I would be uncomfortable and probably leave the room. Just like I would if they were straight. This distinction would escape you if you had only spent limited amounts of time around people whose sexual preference is different that yours.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 18:54:50 [Permalink]
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trogdor wrote: quote:
I kinda agree with filthy's dad. I enjoy hanging out with my GLBT friends, but if they start to make out, I would be uncomfortable and probably leave the room. Just like I would if they were straight. This distinction would escape you if you had only spent limited amounts of time around people whose sexual preference is different that yours.
my bad if I missinterpreted the position of filthy's dad or bill
Correct interpretation of my dad's position. But I'm not filthy, I'm marfknox. ;-) |
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