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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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 Posted - 04/24/2006 : 21:42:19 [Permalink]
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drmabus stated: quote:
I am on ALL SKEPTIC WEBSITES....I AM *HIJACKING* THEM FOR MY OWN PERSONAL POLITICAL AGENDA....
Then I suppose you won't be particularly surprised or offended if, when we tire of your nonsense, this site's Admins might ban your ass from here, too? |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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drmabus
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Posted - 04/24/2006 : 21:55:07 [Permalink]
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| I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM.... |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 04/24/2006 : 22:31:48 [Permalink]
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I doubt it, not with the nonsense you are spouting.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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drmabus
BANNED
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Posted - 04/24/2006 : 22:38:20 [Permalink]
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 00:02:12 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.
Perhaps someone should put a lower-wattage bulb in the six-legged lamb of God, then. We're having a bit of a power crunch
here, after all.
Due to a lack of rain and a reliance on hydropower, New Zealand might be facing a power crisis this winter. Brightly shining sheep might be all we need... (and yes, we have PLENTY of them)
quote:
Originally posted by drmabus
i wish I could be HUMAN.....
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METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 02:17:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by drmabus
I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM....
 That's a good one. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 03:07:05 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by drmabus
I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM....
How? at the rate you're going, the only scenario I can see is that we die laughing. You really should take your act to the stage. You could work 'Vegas. Why you might even get a gig at the next TAM! 
But ok, as you seem to, or at least claim to know the mind of the most popular fraud ever to hit the astrological scene (I can't imagine why; he really is extraordinary dull reading), tell us: what might Mikey have thought of this:
Now there is a dire sign of horrors to come if I ever saw one. Any prognosticating quack worth his charts and crystal brawl could get a lot of mileage out of it.
Much more interesting than a sheep, eh? Betcha there were lots of freaks born and died under it, too.
And I've got a another question: Why is this animal still alive, assuming that it still is? From a herdsman's point of view, it is economically unfeasible to keep it as it would cost more than the animal is worth to amputate the extra legs, not to mention the time that would have to be invested in it. And that, of course, would spoil it's value as an exhibit to milk cash from the easily impressed.
And now, I will make a prediction: As soon as the lamb's owner can no longer can no longer profit from it as it is, it will surgically altered into rack of lamb, rather than a quadruped, missed eclipse not withstanding. Such is the way of the world. 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 05:46:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by drmabus
September 23, 1999
December 3, 1999
BOTH LOST.......x2 DOUBLE FAILURE IN 1999
But when did the failures actually occur?
sts60 is an expert in this field. I'd trust his unsourced assertions much more than yours. (Although, unlike you, sts60 would be quite content to provide sources if asked.)
So far, we have determined that your analysis is based on jack squat due to the following factors.
1) The birth of the lamb of running occured over one lunar phase before the solar eclipse. It therefore, cannot be associated with the eclipse. Astronomy would term the birth to be during the waning moon approaching the last quarter, not becoming new.
2) The two Martian probes did not fail in the same year. A programming fault in the Mars Polar Lander was prior to 1999.
3) The loss of these landers do not constitute good fourtune for Mars. It's a planet. It isn't sentient. It could give a shit less.
4) Birth defects happen. Some of them within two weeks of a solar eclipse. solar eclipses occur multiple times per year. It also occurs regularly based on a natural 18 year cycle. (well, slightly over 18 years) Proximity of animals with birth defects would be much closer if you looked for them. six legged lambs are not uncommon. I have found another report of one in Holland, in June of 2005. http://funreports.com/2005/06/21/60414.html
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 06:40:16 [Permalink]
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you want to get *OUT OF IT*.....don't work that way......
Don't flatter yourself. It's just a peculiarity of mine that I like to be in bed by midnight when I have work the next day (and get up at 0500 to work out).
The year 1999, September,
Gee, that's funny. Back over on BAUT you translated it as
The year 1999, seventh month,
Why don't you make up your mind which month you mean and then get back to us?
Hint: your original quotation referred to "sept mois", which means seven months. "Sept" does not mean "September".
VERIFY THE *EXACT DATES* OF THE DESTRUCTION OF THE 2 PROBES IN 1999
Kindly stop SHOUTING.
In any case, Mars Climate Orbiter was lost in September, the ninth month, and Mars Polar Lander was lost in December, the twelfth month. So in either of your versions, you're wrong. And let's not forget that your bit about "before and after Mars reigns with good fortune" is also wrong, since there have been probe failures both "before" and "after" 1999.
To summarize, you claim that a poem from a mystic who lived in the pre-industrial age predicted the loss of two space probes in 1999; except that he did not refer to space probes (or even have any conception of such); you have given two different interpretations of the date; neither interpretation covers both space probes; and your claim of good luck "before and after" in this context is immediately falsified by the record of bad luck before and after. Oh, yes, and you are ascribing all these "predictions" after the fact.
I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM....
Well, probably not; certainly not until you can come up with a story that even vaguely fits the facts, or for that matter is even internally consistent. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 07:13:52 [Permalink]
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| Not to mention he was probably refering to Mars as in the Roman god of war, rather than the planet. Silly people... though highly amusing people at that. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 07:46:57 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by drmabus
I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM....
I CRUSH YOUR HEAD!!!
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by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 08:06:16 [Permalink]
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quote:
why do you want to hold on to that HOLLOW WORLD VIEW anyways?
At least we aren't holding on to the HOLLOW SUN VIEW...
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If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know. |
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 08:12:21 [Permalink]
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But when did the failures actually occur?
Mars Climate Orbiter was lost in Stepember 1999 when the spacecraft broke apart under aerodynamic loads far deeper in the Martian atmosphere than it was supposed to be for aerobraking. However, the system engineering and management failures (mismatched units, insufficient communication between spacecraft contractor and JPL astrogation team, failure to speak up about inconsistencies, etc.) were built into the program years from the start.
Mars Polar Lander was lost in December 1999 when a shock signal generated during landing gear deployment was interpreted as a landing shock, causing the engine to shut down and letting the spacecraft simply drop a few dozen meters to the surface. Again, the system engineering failures were built into the system with the budget and time pressures causing insufficient analysis and testing, which would have caught the problem generated by the lack of a simple debouncing circuit.
sts60 is an expert in this field. I'd trust his unsourced assertions much more than yours. (Although, unlike you, sts60 would be quite content to provide sources if asked.)
Heck, drmabus himself (in his 4/24 post at 20:48, page 10 of the thread) posted a link to the NASA page summarizing the attempts to explore the Red Planet: http://history.nasa.gov/marschro.htm
Why he did this, I don't know, because it directly contradicts his claim. There has been bad luck both before and after 1999.
Four nations (counting Europe as one "nation" via the European Space Agency) have tried to reach Mars. The USSR/Russia has had a particularly brutal history trying to get there - kind of ironic considering they were the first to successfully land on the hellish surface of Venus. The USA has had a number of both spectacular successes (Viking 1 & 2, three rovers, Mars Global Surveyor, etc.) and excruciating failures (see above for two examples). Europe is 1 for 2 and Japan is hitless in their only at-bat so far. |
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/25/2006 : 08:14:30 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by pleco
quote:
Originally posted by drmabus
I think I can CRUSH your SKEPTICISM....
I CRUSH YOUR HEAD!!!
ALL YOUR MARS PROBE ARE BELONG TO US |
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