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GK Paul
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 Posted - 11/02/2006 : 05:18:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by McQ
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Originally posted by GK Paul
To Marfknox, I'm glad you spent so much time reading that Big Bang article. If you have any questions about the article it would probably be better to go to the "Reasons to Believe" Web site and read all of their many articles.
Actually I made that Big Bang Forum by mistake. I hit the New Topic Button instead of the Reply to Topic Button. Maybe the Holy Spirit wanted it in there for some reason. When I get the time I might go thru your detailed analysis more carefully. Its the type of post that will take a lot of time and thought to respond to. I'm still learning about the Big Bang Theory. But I'll tell you this; the more I read about it the more I realize just how little scientists understand what exactly went on during this inappropriately named "Big Bang" that wasn't even an explosion.
Well, if manners are important to you, as you claim, then would you please be so kind as to answer my question on the Big Bang? (it's still waiting patiently for you in that thread).
Thank you.
(notice I said "please" and "thank you")
I've answered your question for the second time. Its on page 4 of the Big Bang Forum in the Religion section. |
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GK Paul
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 05:07:38 [Permalink]
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Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus. Josephus was said to be vain and was a traitor to his own people. Does it seem reasonable to believe that the following sayings and teachings were made up by a vain traitor.
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Starman
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 05:09:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
Who claimed that?
A link to that post please or I will call this a lie!
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moakley
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 06:03:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
Who claimed that?
A link to that post please!
Yes, GK Paul I would like to see that link as well. Most likely someone claimed that the words about Jesus in "The Testimonium Flavianum" were added at a later date. And those words were not used by any other early Christian writer until the early 4th century by Eusebius. Though it is not compelling evidence, 250 years of silence is interesting. |
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Starman
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 00:46:19 [Permalink]
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Originally calimed by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
So GK Paul, found a post with anyone claiming this yet? Or should we mark this down as another one of your lies for Jesus?
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McQ
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 06:59:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus. Josephus was said to be vain and was a traitor to his own people. Does it seem reasonable to believe that the following sayings and teachings were made up by a vain traitor.
http://www.teachingsofjesus-inhiswords.com/
Here is another list of "traitors":
Thomas Jefferson
John Adams
John Hancock
Benjamin Franklin
Lyman Hall
Button Gwinnett
Benjamin Harrison
Samuel Adams
....oh yeah....and anyone else who happened to sign the Declaration of Independence. And anyone who participated in supporting those who did.
I sure as hell won't believe anything those lying, traitorous creeps said. Would you,GK? Especially John Adams. He was a pretty vain guy, from what I understand.
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GK Paul
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 01:46:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
Who claimed that?
A link to that post please!
Yes, GK Paul I would like to see that link as well. Most likely someone claimed that the words about Jesus in "The Testimonium Flavianum" were added at a later date. And those words were not used by any other early Christian writer until the early 4th century by Eusebius. Though it is not compelling evidence, 250 years of silence is interesting.
Read the book and you'll get your answer. From my memory the ridiculous story states that the {traitor} Josephus wrote a lot of the New Testament in a effort to dupe his own people (he was a general in th Jewish army) into submitting to Roman rule. I've already shown in 4 posts on page 2 of Caesar Messiah Part 1 that the chronology was impossible. If you don't believe me read the confusing book yourself.
And the only credentials I can remember about the author of the book is that he was (or is) a small business owner in California. The great thing about America is that anybody with money can write a book.
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GK Paul
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 01:58:27 [Permalink]
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| For the record, I currently don't reply to Half Mooner. Mc Q, Dave W.,Geemack, and Starman for personal attacks made against me "after" I requested that they cease. If any choose to apologize I will probably start responding to their posts if I get the time. |
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Neurosis
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 02:07:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
For the record, I currently don't reply to Half Mooner. Mc Q, Dave W.,Geemack, and Starman for personal attacks made against me "after" I requested that they cease. If any choose to apologize I will probably start responding to their posts if I get the time.
For the record "Na Na Na boo boo!!!" and "You all have cooties." (I, mind you, have taken my cooties shot.) |
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Starman
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 02:18:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
For the record, I currently don't reply to Half Mooner. Mc Q, Dave W.,Geemack, and Starman for personal attacks made against me "after" I requested that they cease. If any choose to apologize I will probably start responding to their posts if I get the time.
I called you a liar because you have repeatedly posted things that is not true.
I called you a coward because you refuse to support your claims and invent various ludicrous reasons to dodge the questions that you are unable to answer. This "no reply list" of yours just proves that my "personal attack" was entirely justified.
You can pretend to ignore me all you want, but I will continue point out your errors, your lies and your hypocritical & cowardly behavior. My posts will still be available for all to see as well as your inability to support your assertions.
I will not hold a grudge though. Cease this childish behavior and my "personal attacks" will also cease. Then we can, even if we disagree, have a reasonable discussion.
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Starman
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 02:30:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
So GK Paul, here you have a opportunity to either support one of your claims or to show that my claim that you are a liar is correct.
Who made this claim and where?
A link to that post please!
(You can use the [Permalink] on top of the post to get the link.)
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leoofno
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 08:19:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by GK Paul
Well, the whole idea of this forum (originally) was that someone claimed Jesus was made up by Josephus.
So GK Paul, here you have a opportunity to either support one of your claims or to show that my claim that you are a liar is correct.
Who made this claim and where?
A link to that post please!
(You can use the [Permalink] on top of the post to get the link.)
I guess someone's gotta do the research...took me all of 10 minutes or so...
Turns out nobody ever said that Josephus made up Jesus. But...
According to CM (if I understand it correctly from its summary), the Romans invented the gospels based on the writings of Josephus. The Romans used his history of the Roman battles against the Jews to establish a history for Jesus that paralleled those events. An inside joke by the Romans, I guess. There is no suggestion, that I can see, that Josephus actually wrote any of the gospels.
Topos is the one who brought up the Josephus connection in this post:
http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4655#98205
He mentions the parallels between Josephus's history of the Jewish War and the history of Jesus. He did not say that Josephus wrote Jesus's history.
I think GKPaul misunderstood what was being said. However, I'm not sure anyone corrected him.
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Starman
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 08:56:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by leoofno
I guess someone's gotta do the research...took me all of 10 minutes or so...
Turns out nobody ever said that Josephus made up Jesus. But...
Thanks leoofno, for doing GK Pauls job for him!quote:
I think GK Paul misunderstood what was being said. However, I'm not sure anyone corrected him.
Yes, and that would have been a perfectly good answer from GK Paul. He made a mistake. We all make them. GK Paul however did not own up to this mistake, just as he have been unable and unwilling to answer for his other mistakes/claims. |
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Neurosis
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 14:24:19 [Permalink]
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Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson
[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink
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Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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McQ
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Posted - 11/28/2006 : 14:52:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GK Paul
For the record, I currently don't reply to Half Mooner. Mc Q, Dave W.,Geemack, and Starman for personal attacks made against me "after" I requested that they cease. If any choose to apologize I will probably start responding to their posts if I get the time.
Will someone tell GK Paul that he's hurting my feelings please?
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