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James
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Posted - 03/23/2002 :  22:54:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
Omega, would you mind sharing a link so we can all enjoy? Or is it in another language?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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Lisa
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Posted - 03/25/2002 :  18:20:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lisa a Private Message
Did 4-LOM have any going besides me? I thought we had us a real live troll. I spent all morning thinking up a scathing reply, then found out it was a joke.

BTW, Megan has added an excellent post over at BA in the Book section. The fact that the teacher gave bad information isn't too surprising. What's idiotic, is that even when she's been shown she's wrong, she refuses to tell her students the correct information.
Lisa

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Trish
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Posted - 03/26/2002 :  10:19:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
People like that should not teach children. Ok, I really have a problem with certain types of teachers. Of course, I was enough of a problem child that I pointed out the teacher was wrong in class, with book in hand. She failed me. No big deal.

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Omega
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Posted - 03/27/2002 :  18:41:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Omega an ICQ Message Send Omega a Private Message
James> It's in Danish, and I think only Danes speak that language  http://www.dr.dk/videnskab/tema/konspiration/
What's kinda amusing/worrying is that there's a poll and 50% think that ufos are flying saucers. While 86% believe in alien abductions. I wonder what the 36% think the aliens are flying in... ? Oh, well!

If you want to know why Einstein is supposedly wrong www.alienwar.com/einstein.htm
Why do these people always write in five different fonts and colours?


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James
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Posted - 03/27/2002 :  19:55:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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James> It's in Danish, and I think only Danes speak that language. http://www.dr.dk/videnskab/tema/konspiration/[/quote]

Thanks, Omega. Unfortunately, (http://babelfish.altavista.com/) Babelfish doesn't translate Danish into English yet.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha

Edited by - James on 03/27/2002 19:57:54
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Slater
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USA
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Posted - 03/27/2002 :  23:03:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Okay, I've heard that there is a new comet that is visible.
Which way do I look when?

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Donnie B.
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Posted - 03/28/2002 :  15:15:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
North-Northwest, fairly low on the horizon, about 7:30 PM local time. Should be visible to the naked eye, and pretty clear with binoculars.

Tonight has clear skies for the first time in a couple weeks; I'll be out looking myself.



-- Donnie B.

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Omega
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Denmark
164 Posts

Posted - 03/28/2002 :  18:56:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Omega an ICQ Message Send Omega a Private Message
James> Of course Babelfish don't do that. Sometimes I don't even think Danish is a language, but a sequences of noises invented to confuse the enemy. :)

Slater> www.spaceweather.com Or is there a – between space and weather? Anyways, there are the updates on space, the sun and visible comets, 24/7


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Trish
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USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  10:12:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
Slater or try www.heavens-above.com. I think the comet might be too low on the horizon for me - I have this huge pile of rocks off in the distance to the West.

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Slater
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USA
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  10:42:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Thanks guys, the only thing west of me is Asia so I'll dust off the old 7X35's and hope the fog lifts.

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The Bad Astronomer
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  13:18:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Bad Astronomer's Homepage Send The Bad Astronomer a Private Message
Bear in mind that the Moon is very bright, which washes out the tail. If you wait until, say, Sunday you'll get a better view (assuming the weather holds). The comet is still up by the time it is completely dark.

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Megan
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Posted - 03/31/2002 :  17:57:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
Ok I know that one of the best therories on how the whole universe, everything, started is the Big Bang. Knowing that, wouldn't there have to be at least two atoms, elements or something doing something to create the Big Bang?

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P). Someday, you'll get sick of me... I know some people have(=P)
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Omega
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Denmark
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Posted - 03/31/2002 :  18:07:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Omega an ICQ Message Send Omega a Private Message
Megan> No. Atoms weren't created until after the Big Bang. The problem with BB is that time itself started there. Everything started and we still don't know what happened in the first micro-micro-mili second after the blast.
At the instant of Big Bang the Universe would have had size zero and infinitely high temperatures. As it expands the temperature starts to drop. Not until after a second after BB do you get actual atoms.


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Donnie B.
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Posted - 03/31/2002 :  18:10:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Donnie B. a Private Message
quote:

Ok I know that one of the best therories on how the whole universe, everything, started is the Big Bang. Knowing that, wouldn't there have to be at least two atoms, elements or something doing something to create the Big Bang?


That's an excellent question, but it's one that science (as we currently understand it) can't answer directly.

The Big Bang (if it happened as we now think it happened) was a singular event, where all of space, matter, and energy were concentrated into a point of zero size. We can use mathematical models to figure out how things happened starting at that moment and thereafter; but the moment itself "doesn't compute". And as far as what might have happened "before" that moment, we can't say anything at all (except speculation).

It's even possible that there was no such thing as time until the Big Bang happened, so it's meaningless to talk about "before" then.

So for now, at least, your guess is as good as anybody's... or at least, almost as good.


-- Donnie B.

Brian: "No, no! You have to think for yourselves!" Crowd: "Yes! We have to think for ourselves!"
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Megan
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USA
163 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2002 :  09:55:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Megan a Private Message
I understand, but it doesnt make any sense to me that there was nothing to cause it. If it compressed or whatever, then there had to be something to make it do that. It's not like the universe is a living thing itself, so that it just thought that one "day" it would compress to make what we have now.

All I'm saying is that I think there had to be something to cause it.

~Megan~

BTW, I'm a 15 year old that never stops asking questions(=P). Someday, you'll get sick of me... I know some people have(=P)
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