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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Slater
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 Posted - 01/29/2002 : 16:12:33 [Permalink]
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I saw a cross (not a crucifix-no Catholics down there) of similar dimensions standing in the middle of the Texas pan handle. It is the only structure for as far as the eye can see, sitting right next to Route 40. After seeing it my wife and I decided to drive straight on to Roswell NM in the hopes of finding saner people.
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Kaneda Kuonji
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2002 : 16:17:31 [Permalink]
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Okay, the guy who wants the crucifix built is a loony...there's no two ways about it.
He does realize that such a structure would be unstable as all get out, and that it'll break the bank to build.
I think it's more for PR reasons, than anything else!
Rodney Dean, CI Order of the Knights of Jubal
Ivbalis.org
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2002 : 17:12:40 [Permalink]
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It'd need to be a bit taller to fit Oral Robert's 600 foot tall Jesus.
Randy
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Physiofly
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2002 : 17:43:21 [Permalink]
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They could always make Jesus' arms rotate and turn it into a big clock. That way it would actually serve a purpose. 
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Xev
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/29/2002 : 18:52:40 [Permalink]
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Filthy: You can crash on my couch if you do.
Umm, this Tom Monahagn guy, he throws a horridly gaudy Christmas light show every year. 20 foot diameter star of Bethlaham, 10 foot nativity scene, yadda yadda. And of course, all visible from the highway. And he puts it up a month before Christmas.
(Charges admission, of course)
He also shelled out the money for a free Catholic newspaper that is just bizzare.
Ugh, don't get me started.
Xev-Come not between the creationist and his pseudoscience-Bellringer |
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Donnie B.
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Posted - 01/29/2002 : 19:46:18 [Permalink]
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Donnie B.'s fantasy of the day...
The 25-story crucifix is built. In the first strong wind, it falls over, crushing a school bus full of kids coming home from church camp.
And the faithful give thanks that no one was hurt, except the one little girl impaled by Jesus' crown of thorns...
[Sorry... I'm in a mood, I guess...]
-- Donnie B.
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James
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Posted - 01/30/2002 : 06:45:32 [Permalink]
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Donnie B.'s fantasy of the day...
The 25-story crucifix is built. In the first strong wind, it falls over, crushing a school bus full of kids coming home from church camp.
And the faithful give thanks that no one was hurt, except the one little girl impaled by Jesus' crown of thorns...
[Sorry... I'm in a mood, I guess...]
-- Donnie B.
Ouch! You have a dark mind, Donnie. I like it. 
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha |
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2002 : 07:27:15 [Permalink]
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Why not?
Well....If it's on the guys own property, and it isn't dangerous, and the city changes the ordinance....Afterall, there's no law against being stupid. If there were, I'd be serving a life sentence.
And Xev, we've got this guy down here in New Orleans that is really crazy for his Christmas lights, too. The guy is Al Copeland, founder of the Popeyes Fried Chicken restaurants, and some other restaurants. Anyway, I don't know how many lights he puts up, but it really pisses off his neighbors, and since he lives in the Garden District, it's pretty hard NOT to piss off someone that's rich, famous or powerfull. His most vocal enemy is Anne Rice, (the Vampire and S&M Cinderella book lady). They've made for some interesting columns in the paper.
Right now, Al Copeland has his hands full with some unrelated legal matters. Seems he got into some fisticuffs with Robert Guidry and son, a local gambling boss, and co-defendent with Edwin Edwards, (our most beloved governor since Huey Long).
Life down here in the steamy south can be really interesting, but at least we don't have any oversized crosses, and huge statues of Christ. We just have millions of little ones.
Oh, and I apologize. The word "gambling" should not be used. We call it 'gaming'. Afterall, "gambling" is unconstitutional in this state.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2002 : 10:21:07 [Permalink]
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Why not?
Property values.
Imagine you just dropped $250,000 on a house within sight of this.
Piety.
Imagine you live near there and are a person with a deeply held sense of faith. And you can actually tell the difference between the sacred and the profane.
Taste.
What about those neighbors with a sense of style and taste?
You can't build something that big without it effecting the entire community.
It's a statue of a guy being tortured to death, for christ's sake! Yuch!
The Druids used to "erect" large stone penis' as religious statues (there is still one standing on the hill of Tara) Do we think that "freedom of religion" would cover something like that which was a few hundred feet tall? (A case might be made for this giant penis as the Washington Monument--he was , after all, "the father of his country")
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Edited by - slater on 01/30/2002 10:22:46 |
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Tim
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/30/2002 : 15:35:49 [Permalink]
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Property values
No, I wouldn't like it, but community standards require being legislated. Some of this legislation is good, some not so good.
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Taste
A difficulty remains. How do you enforce good taste?
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Piety.
Can we legislate piety, too? Anyway, I really can't stand those silly billboards for God, but I have to live with them. Those signs are not my property.
We erect damned ugly monstrocities often. As I alluded to in my inference to Al Copeland's Christmas lights, it is a community problem. The property is his. If his neighbors want to force their idea of good taste on him...Well, that's their business. It's called a petition and referendum. Property owners have rights,too--Whether we like it or not.
Other than that, the major concerns that can be addressed are local ordinances and safety regulations, such as building codes. If in this case, the city changes their ordinance about the height of buildings, or calls this thing something other than a building, I think the community had their say through their elected representatives.
Is it Right, or even sane? That's another question.
"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson |
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ktesibios
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/31/2002 : 01:04:50 [Permalink]
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Umm...
If you want a structure which is
A. insanely huge
B. even more insanely expensive
C. devoid of usefulness
D. motivated by religious belief
Whassamatta with a nice big pyramid? At least they look cool, tend to stay up for a long time and have 5000 years of tradition behind them.
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2002 : 09:49:53 [Permalink]
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They could always make Jesus' arms rotate and turn it into a big clock. That way it would actually serve a purpose. [Physiofly]
Don't stop there, Physio. His ears could be micro-wave relay dishes; and if the whole thing is put on a rotating base, you could turn it into one gigantic wind turbine.
Of course, if this 25 story Mega-Jesus is built, somewhere in this great land of ours, a 26 story statue will soon be on the drawing boards.
"My Jesus is bigger than your Jesus, nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah.
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James
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Posted - 01/31/2002 : 19:08:59 [Permalink]
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Umm...
If you want a structure which is
A. insanely huge
B. even more insanely expensive
C. devoid of usefulness
D. motivated by religious belief
Whassamatta with a nice big pyramid? At least they look cool, tend to stay up for a long time and have 5000 years of tradition behind them.
What, and glorify a pagan religion? 
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 01/31/2002 : 19:22:10 [Permalink]
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You have to wonder how some of the people that don't understand the objections to this would feel if some Muslim group was planning a mere 10 story Mohammed.
Hell, I would do it myself if I could just to witness the hypocracy!
@tomic
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James
SFN Regular
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Posted - 01/31/2002 : 19:36:16 [Permalink]
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You have to wonder how some of the people that don't understand the objections to this would feel if some Muslim group was planning a mere 10 story Mohammed.
Hell, I would do it myself if I could just to witness the hypocracy!
@tomic
And if you had the money, right?
I wonder what would have happened if the statues that were destroyed in the Middle East(Afghanistan? Or Pakistan?) had instead been moved here to the US? Can anyone say religious furor?
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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