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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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 Posted - 06/23/2001 : 08:30:17 [Permalink]
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The reason conservatives are outnumbered is because most of the population think they would be better off under a more progressive system.
Which is quite correct.
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2001 : 08:47:51 [Permalink]
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The reason conservatives are outnumbered is because most of the population think they would be better off under a more progressive system.
Which is quite correct.
Bestonnet_00:
Naturally, I agree. However, the credulous in this country make up the greatest numbers in the popular media. Their buying power makes up for their lower numbers. Advertisers want to reach the easily-bamboozled masses.
@tomic:
I love your diagram. I am still trying to figure out where I fit on it.
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
358 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2001 : 01:34:39 [Permalink]
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The masses wouldn't be able to find out what is going on with all the media bias.
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2001 : 15:59:15 [Permalink]
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The masses wouldn't be able to find out what is going on with all the media bias.
The media representatives are a part of the masses (the reason for their selection), which makes them ideal for reporting baloney. I wonder what the perpertrators of baloney do about their children's education. How can they keep their own children free from the influence of such stupidity? When people promote trash, it filters down to their offspring as well.
ljbrs
If you knew better, you'd do better. However, it is sometimes much more fun just to blunder right through, if you can stand the smell...
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Mespo_man
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2001 : 16:22:59 [Permalink]
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I wonder what the perpertrators of baloney do about their children's education. How can they keep their own children free from the influence of such stupidity? When people promote trash, it filters down to their offspring as well. [ljbrs]
A great question to ask Howard Stern. How does he keep all his trash talk radio out of his family life? Or Jerry Springer, for that matter.
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ljbrs
SFN Regular
USA
842 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2001 : 18:32:16 [Permalink]
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A great question to ask Howard Stern. How does he keep all his trash talk radio out of his family life? Or Jerry Springer, for that matter.
It is the old "What goes around comes around." Anybody who unnecessarily promotes intellectual crap, eventually meets it coming back at them (as from a toilet which has clogged).
People who promote this filth have some kind of agenda against society. What are their motives and eventual expectations? Beats me.
ljbrs
Jerks live with jerks (themselves) 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all year long. They cannot escape.
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
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Posted - 06/25/2001 : 03:26:56 [Permalink]
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Most of them don't have an agenda against society.
They just can't realise what they are saying is wrong.
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Marc_a_b
Skeptic Friend
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2001 : 08:50:01 [Permalink]
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A great question to ask Howard Stern. How does he keep all his trash talk radio out of his family life? Or Jerry Springer, for that matter.
By being a responsible parent maybe. By paying attention to what his children are doing, and openly talking to them. For example in the week after the Columbine shooting he had his daughter on the show for a few hours to talk about it. He encourages parents to pay attention to their kids rather than let TV and radio raise them.
Then there is LLoyd Kauffman of Troma. Director of many fine B movies filled with gratuitous violence and nudity. (as if there could be such a thing  ) His daughter appered in his movie Terror Firma. Listening to the directors commentary on the DVD, and the post-movie interview with her you repeatedly hear how she and her friends were always moved off the set when they would be filming something inappropriate for them to see.
While trying to improve the media, please keep in mind that not everyone in the country is underaged. I am an adult and at times I like watching stuff that is not appropriate for kids. Which makes it very anoying when some groups try to 'child-proof' everything. They claim this movie or that show is not appropriate for younger viewers. Well did they ever think that maybe the target audience is not kids? To quote Frank N. Furtur "I didn't make him for you"
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 06/25/2001 : 12:49:52 [Permalink]
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I'll tell you a little secret, I don't agree 100% with everything my party presents. I think for myself but if there has to be someone to 'run' the country, between the two morons who were the major candidates, what choice was there really.
What points did you think were too conservative?
He tended to be a little too heavy on the abolish government intervention in all things stance. The impracticality of the removal of Income tax. (Although, I would like to see some return on investment.) The isolationist stance the current administration has is very disturbing. (I didn't vote for him. He's treating the country like a hostile takeover of a business by a oil company.)
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2001 : 05:43:28 [Permalink]
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The impracticality of the removal of Income tax. (Although, I would like to see some return on investment.)
So you don't think the privatization of services would be better then the mess and over costs we have now with government doing the job?
I also think the stock market suffers because of the idiotic new tax rules. I feel very angry I don't/can't invest as much as I'd like because of that.
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
358 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2001 : 02:29:14 [Permalink]
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So replace government incompetance with corporate profits no matter the social or environmental cost.
Somehow I prefer incompetance to profits above everything else.
At least government actually builds for need.
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comradebillyboy
Skeptic Friend
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 06/28/2001 : 22:58:57 [Permalink]
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@tomic,
with the religious fanatics running the country now, it won't take 4 years. I'd take slick willie back in a new york minute.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2001 : 02:43:36 [Permalink]
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So replace government incompetance with corporate profits no matter the social or environmental cost.
Somehow I prefer incompetance to profits above everything else.
At least government actually builds for need.
HUH?
You are making NO sense at all.
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bestonnet_00
Skeptic Friend
Australia
358 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2001 : 03:08:39 [Permalink]
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Profit itself is not bad.
But profit above everything else is bad.
Problem is that when deregulation occurs thats exactly what happens.
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 06/29/2001 : 08:22:51 [Permalink]
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People who promote this filth have some kind of agenda against society. What are their motives and eventual expectations? Beats me.
In my opinion, it's nothing that deep. It's profit, pure and simple. Filth sells, and just about everybody is buying.
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