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Tokyodreamer
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Posted - 02/21/2002 :  20:07:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tokyodreamer a Private Message
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all students leave a school district except one. Now the school system has only $5000 to provide an education for that student.


Then there would be no point in having a public school system even existing at this point. That last $5000 would put the last student in a private school.

As for the claim that vouchers reduce funding, and therefore hurt the public schools, I'd be greatly interested in the evidence that supports this claim. Got any?

(And just to reiterate, I'm against vouchers )

[heh, I'd be greatly interested, not greatly interesting. I doubt I'll ever be greatly interesting ]

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Sum Ergo Cogito

Edited by - tokyodreamer on 02/22/2002 06:22:34
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Tim
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Posted - 02/22/2002 :  03:22:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Tim a Private Message
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As for the claim that vouchers reduce funding, and therefore hurt the public schools, I'd be greatly interesting in the evidence that supports this claim. Got any?


I don't think the idea that vouchers reduces funding for public schools comes from any evidentiary claims, but from a general feeling of cynicism concerning gov't and education. One of the reasons for this cynicism comes from states apparent magic acts when it comes to funding schools.

How many states enacted lotteries with the promise that all the proceeds will be dedicated to education? Of course, all the proceeds do go to education, but prior funding which is not constitutionally protected tends to mysteriously vanish. The situation may get so bad for a poor state that the schools may actually wind up with less funding than before the lottery was begun.

I think many people fear a similar scenario with school vouchers.

"The Constitution ..., is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society." P. Robertson
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PhDreamer
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Posted - 02/22/2002 :  07:53:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
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As for the claim that vouchers reduce funding, and therefore hurt the public schools, I'd be greatly interested in the evidence that supports this claim. Got any?



Like I said, I am unclear on how the per-kid value is decided in this state. The obvious problem is school maintenance. The cost of repairing toilets does not change relative to the number of kids that the school maintains.

Another thing I just thought of: the Catholic high school here charges different tuition amounts for Catholics and non-Catholics. I know this because my boss sends his kids there. The obvious implication is that the inner city kids who are most likely to be eligible for vouchers are also more likely to be minorities (and less likely to be Catholic). So kids who win these voucher lotteries are less likely to be able to afford private schools even with the voucher money. Now there are multiple nuances here, such as the Catholic school's ability to provide academic scholarships. I wonder if this is something that would have to come under state control, to ensure fair award.


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1. You cannot win.
2. You cannot break even.
3. You cannot stop playing the game.
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