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 Posted - 09/28/2011 : 07:59:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.
That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.
However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.
good nite
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The warnings were not for insults.
They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.
We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.
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forum Moderators Acting Badly.
As Dr Mabuse said, proper searching work is time consuming to ensure everything is correctly reported. Meanwhile Dave throws a hundred accusations up ( figuratively )gives make-work projects etc.
It's only exaggerating a bit to say that even a punctuation mark missing might be Dave's opening to spin.
To demand delivery is one thing. To pile on threats and warnings is another. (All the while ignoring and even encouraging insults from The Team, by showing it's acceptable).
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I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head.
This does not bode well for you.
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| I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head. |
Not at all. It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. For you to pretend it can be, is dishonest.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 07:59:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Fripp, you're not helping.
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That is not a warning.
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I'm getting tired of this. There was a lot of talking to you before any warning was issued. And they weren't issued because of insulting remarks by you, of which there were plenty. They were issued because you made a serious accusation about the ethics of one of our administrators. They are not the same things. Unfortunately, insults happen because we tend to moderate with a very lite touch. We try to treat those posting here like adults. Even you!
If you can't distinguish between an insult and an accusation of ethical violations, that's not our problem or our failing. It's yours. It's been made clear to you. And again, I'll point out that we make the rules here. If you don't like them, the solution is simple. Leave.
You can think we're unfair. You can scream it from the rooftops. I don't care.
Now... I'm going to work. If, when I get home this hasn't been resolved, which would be easy for you to do, I'm going to take more than a dim view of your behavior here. Most people do not get more than two warnings before they are suspended and lose their posting privileges on our board. But here I am warning you for a third time. Either present your evidence or sincerely apologies to Dave. Those are your options.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:01:07 [Permalink]
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| I can distinguish. I can also distinguish how rules are applied differently for Team Members than for the opposition. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:03:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
Dave sets up the incorrect information, fabricates the strawman or other misrepresentation. |
Unsupportable lies.
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Fripp
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:16:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Fripp, you're not helping.
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Sorry. He was just annoying the living crap out of me this AM. Work issues have made his little forum cowardice insignificant |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:27:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
I can also distinguish how rules are applied differently for Team Members than for the opposition. |
So what?| It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. |
It's also a fact that you refuse to answer when asked when you will be coughing it up.Bwahahahahahahaha! |
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Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:29:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Fripp, you're not helping.
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That is not a warning.
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I'm getting tired of this. There was a lot of talking to you before any warning was issued. And they weren't issued because of insulting remarks by you, of which there were plenty. They were issued because you made a serious accusation about the ethics of one of our administrators. They are not the same things. Unfortunately, insults happen because we tend to moderate with a very lite touch. We try to treat those posting here like adults. Even you!
If you can't distinguish between an insult and an accusation of ethical violations, that's not our problem or our failing. It's yours. It's been made clear to you. And again, I'll point out that we make the rules here. If you don't like them, the solution is simple. Leave.
You can think we're unfair. You can scream it from the rooftops. I don't care.
Now... I'm going to work. If, when I get home this hasn't been resolved, which would be easy for you to do, I'm going to take more than a dim view of your behavior here. Most people do not get more than two warnings before they are suspended and lose their posting privileges on our board. But here I am warning you for a third time. Either present your evidence or sincerely apologies to Dave. Those are your options.
Kil
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It would not be easy to do, with Dave propagating false information at a good clip and paraphrasing falsely over and over.
As to the seming suggestions ( from others, not you, Kil) that it's only because of the unusual situation this time, that the rule-breaking is allowed for Team Members, I would ask Kil what MG had done, to be handed over to Dave.
And I'd ask: if an opposition member is under threat ( say for good, poor, or indeterminate reason ) then all rules of conduct are suspended for anyone attacking him. Is that good ?
It seems resolution might need your input.
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:37:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Fripp, you're not helping.
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Sorry. He was just annoying the living crap out of me this AM. Work issues have made his little forum cowardice insignificant
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thank you for your timely appearance |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 08:43:20 [Permalink]
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| I'm not a Scientologist, so I might not understand the principles in operation here. It reminds me of video where sceptics approach them. A whole "other" reality. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:07:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
It would not be easy to do, with Dave propagating false information at a good clip and paraphrasing falsely over and over. |
LOL.| As to the seming suggestions ( from others, not you, Kil) that it's only because of the unusual situation this time, that the rule-breaking is allowed for Team Members... |
What rules?| ...I would ask Kil what MG had done, to be handed over to Dave. |
"Handed over?" So you're accusing me of lying:The SFN staff has decided that the plain-English meaning of your words is that you are admitting to trolling, and so we don't need to waste time with official warnings. You're banned. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
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Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:25:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
It would not be easy to do, with Dave propagating false information at a good clip and paraphrasing falsely over and over. |
LOL.| As to the seming suggestions ( from others, not you, Kil) that it's only because of the unusual situation this time, that the rule-breaking is allowed for Team Members... |
What rules?| ...I would ask Kil what MG had done, to be handed over to Dave. |
"Handed over?" So you're accusing me of lying:The SFN staff has decided that the plain-English meaning of your words is that you are admitting to trolling, and so we don't need to waste time with official warnings. You're banned.
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Not that. MG in fact teased that he was trolling or was a troll. So that was not a questionable decision, to do the boot. Whether it was meant as to echo "troll' accusations such as abound here and of course, the majority of argumentative internet sites, or not, is immaterial. He said it. Action was justifiable. The name is much like "denier" on internet. That is, the opposition is "denier". From Evolution beliefs that vary a bit from main, to Climate Science , "denier" signals opposition member who is by definition entirely evil, being compared to Holocaust deniers.
What I am referring to is when earlier Kil had demanded MG answer a bullshit DaveQuestion. For those not familiar, I'll bring it. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:35:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.
That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.
However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.
good nite
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The warnings were not for insults.
They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.
We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.
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forum Moderators Acting Badly.
As Dr Mabuse said, proper searching work is time consuming to ensure everything is correctly reported. Meanwhile Dave throws a hundred accusations up ( figuratively )gives make-work projects etc.
It's only exaggerating a bit to say that even a punctuation mark missing might be Dave's opening to spin.
To demand delivery is one thing. To pile on threats and warnings is another. (All the while ignoring and even encouraging insults from The Team, by showing it's acceptable).
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I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head.
This does not bode well for you.
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Not at all. It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. For you to pretend it can be, is dishonest.
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I gave you two days.
The clock is running.
Don't waste it. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:37:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.
That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.
However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.
good nite
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The warnings were not for insults.
They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.
We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.
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forum Moderators Acting Badly.
As Dr Mabuse said, proper searching work is time consuming to ensure everything is correctly reported. Meanwhile Dave throws a hundred accusations up ( figuratively )gives make-work projects etc.
It's only exaggerating a bit to say that even a punctuation mark missing might be Dave's opening to spin.
To demand delivery is one thing. To pile on threats and warnings is another. (All the while ignoring and even encouraging insults from The Team, by showing it's acceptable).
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I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head.
This does not bode well for you.
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| I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head. |
Not at all. It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. For you to pretend it can be, is dishonest.
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I gave you two days.
The clock is running.
Don't waste it.
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who cares, when those above you will say less time than that ? |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:40:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.
That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.
However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.
good nite
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The warnings were not for insults.
They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.
We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.
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forum Moderators Acting Badly.
As Dr Mabuse said, proper searching work is time consuming to ensure everything is correctly reported. Meanwhile Dave throws a hundred accusations up ( figuratively )gives make-work projects etc.
It's only exaggerating a bit to say that even a punctuation mark missing might be Dave's opening to spin.
To demand delivery is one thing. To pile on threats and warnings is another. (All the while ignoring and even encouraging insults from The Team, by showing it's acceptable).
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I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head.
This does not bode well for you.
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| I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head. |
Not at all. It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. For you to pretend it can be, is dishonest.
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I gave you two days.
The clock is running.
Don't waste it.
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who cares, when those above you will say less time than that ?
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So you admit that you refuse to provide this evidence irrespective of any time limit.
DaveW was even more lienient that I was. He only requires that you provide a timeline for when you will present this evidence. Others gave no time limit at all.
Clock is still running. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/28/2011 : 09:42:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Originally posted by CRUX
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.
That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.
However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.
good nite
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The warnings were not for insults.
They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.
We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.
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forum Moderators Acting Badly.
As Dr Mabuse said, proper searching work is time consuming to ensure everything is correctly reported. Meanwhile Dave throws a hundred accusations up ( figuratively )gives make-work projects etc.
It's only exaggerating a bit to say that even a punctuation mark missing might be Dave's opening to spin.
To demand delivery is one thing. To pile on threats and warnings is another. (All the while ignoring and even encouraging insults from The Team, by showing it's acceptable).
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I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head.
This does not bode well for you.
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| I suppose the whole "burden of proof is on the claimant" thing is right over your head. |
Not at all. It's a fact that the whole thing cannot be coughed up instantly. For you to pretend it can be, is dishonest.
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I gave you two days.
The clock is running.
Don't waste it.
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who cares, when those above you will say less time than that ?
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So you admit that you refuse to provide this evidence irrespective of any time limit. |
False.
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