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 Posted - 08/04/2008 : 09:09:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
I'd comment over there, but I'm too damned angry at this...a cracker and they go nuts. Pedophiles priests, no problem.
I just can't think of any words: So, I'll post a link to a picture instead, just to piss those pricks off.
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Yes, I saw that one. PZ had it up. And it brought to mind a question: Would Jesus have accepted the Eucharist? Or would he have cursed the priest for perverting the symbolism of his remark to his disciples?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Posted - 08/05/2008 : 03:45:08 [Permalink]
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This might be a little off the topic but if we expand it to include historical, Catholic scumbaggery, it'll fit. Knights Templar heirs in legal battle with the Pope
The heirs of the Knights Templar have launched a legal battle in Spain to force the Pope to restore the reputation of the disgraced order which was accused of heresy and dissolved seven centuries ago. |
Jacques de Molay, the 23rd and Last Grand Master of the Knights Templar, is lead to the stake to burn for heresy Photo: GETTY
Does anyone want to make a book on how successful they'll be?
The history of the Church is filled with avarice. If someone has 3 coins, they demanded one of them, would grab all three if given the chance, and sanctimoniously phony up heresy charges & kill to get them if there were enough to make it worth while. Judging from this cracker nonsense, there are quite a few Catholics longing for the 'good ol' days' when a blasphemer could be legally murdered and his properties gobbled up by the Church.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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and Crypto-Communist!
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Posted - 08/13/2008 : 12:37:18 [Permalink]
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Some good news (HT to commenter MH at Pharyngula):On Tuesday, a panel of four students and two administrators, voted unanimously to dismiss all charges against Webster Cook and his friend Ben Collard, saying there was no hard evidence that the two did anything which would merit expulsion or suspension. But still:Cook's impeachment hearing from the student Senate is scheduled for August 28. |
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filthy
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Posted - 08/13/2008 : 13:25:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Some good news (HT to commenter MH at Pharyngula):On Tuesday, a panel of four students and two administrators, voted unanimously to dismiss all charges against Webster Cook and his friend Ben Collard, saying there was no hard evidence that the two did anything which would merit expulsion or suspension. But still:Cook's impeachment hearing from the student Senate is scheduled for August 28.
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There's a little justice in the world after all. But he'll probably lose his Senate position regardless -- gotta toss a bone to them cracker-suckers -- so maybe not so much justice as there could be.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 19:32:18 [Permalink]
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That's pretty respectable.
My only regret is that he seems to be jumping on the wagon without knowing the full story (he did not mention the first desecration, the one Myers was answering to). |
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Posted - 08/26/2008 : 19:51:16 [Permalink]
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Well, he did explain, down in the comments:So in effect, the “Pray for PZ Myers Month” is a reaction based on what I saw Catholic bloggers doing than anything Prof. Myers did. So it was more an attempt to stop the hate mail than any deep examination of the issues. |
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 04:14:22 [Permalink]
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But will cooler heads prevail? Well, yes, eventually. They usually do in time, but according to PZ, the cards & letters are still coming in but in a trickle rather than the recent Biblical Deluge. It's true — the cracker incident is still dribbling on in my mailbox. The email is down in volume considerably — only a few dozen angry letters a day. I'm still getting a handful of actual letters every day, and those are both comical and pathetic. Usually, they're an announcement of some ceremony that was carried out to rescue me from evil. I've also got lots of pamphlets and even a couple of books about 'eucharistic miracles', which aren't having the effect the senders intend, I'm sure — all they do is demonstrate a greater depth of insanity than I had previously imagined.
I've tossed a few of the recent letters below the fold for your amusement.
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They are amusing like mustard gas because, while most of the heads have at last chilled, shrugged it off, and gone back to living in the world, the genuine whackos yet remain, locked in their festering ideas of what someone else's spiritual morality should be. They are joyous in having a target for their irrational hatred. If it wasn't PZ, it would be someone, anyone, else that might not share their loathsome version of their faith.
To be fair about it, loathsome faith-versions are not unique to Catholicism -- we encounter them everywhere; murderous Protestant lunatics like Eric Rudolph & George W. Bush, vile Muslim fanatics such as those who wantonly kill the innocent (and are applauded for it by other, vile, Muslim fanatics), et al.
Kind'a makes you wonder, doesn't it: is atheism among the few faith-versions that actually is moral, even though, or perhaps because, it has nothing to do with any sort of faith or belief in some demented sky-demon or other?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 07:39:51 [Permalink]
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Well; yeah; by definition accepting a religion is an irrational process.
Also, at least in the monotheistic religions, there is the idea that human life has no value in itself but only has the value that God sees in it (hence, if he asks you should agree to sacrifice your son/daughter or commit genocide and suicide is a sin because your life does not actually belong to you but to God instead) |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Posted - 08/27/2008 : 07:54:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Kind'a makes you wonder, doesn't it: is atheism among the few faith-versions that actually is moral, even though, or perhaps because, it has nothing to do with any sort of faith or belief in some demented sky-demon or other? |
Well, if irrational beliefs are immoral, then the answer can only be "yes." |
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Posted - 08/30/2008 : 21:10:35 [Permalink]
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Early report: Webster Cook was removed from the Student Senate after being found guilty of "misfeasance":Cook was found guilty of the second charge. The charge was for misfeasance, which is defined by SGA as a lawful act performed in a wrongful manner by a Student Government official in execution of his or her duties. This after he was acquitted of all charges in the earlier student-government trial (which could have resulted in suspension or expulsion), two weeks ago. |
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filthy
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 Posted - 08/31/2008 : 02:02:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Early report: Webster Cook was removed from the Student Senate after being found guilty of "misfeasance":Cook was found guilty of the second charge. The charge was for misfeasance, which is defined by SGA as a lawful act performed in a wrongful manner by a Student Government official in execution of his or her duties. This after he was acquitted of all charges in the earlier student-government trial (which could have resulted in suspension or expulsion), two weeks ago.
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About as expected. Considering how vehement and ridiculous the Catholics were over this, he got off in fairly good shape. Let us not forget: this was the cult embraced by Torquemada and the only thing that has really changed is what the law of the land(s) will allow them get away with.
The dog has been tossed a bone and PZ is ignoring it, and hopefully they'll finally shut the hell up -- until the next ersatz outrage.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Posted - 09/08/2008 : 09:03:17 [Permalink]
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The ever-observant DaveScot says that McCain is doing well because PZ is a meanie:So thanks, Paul, for doing such a bang-up job associating Obama supporters and Palin bashers with enemies of the Catholic Church. With friends like you Obama doesn't need enemies! |
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Posted - 09/08/2008 : 09:45:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
The ever-observant DaveScot says that McCain is doing well because PZ is a meanie:So thanks, Paul, for doing such a bang-up job associating Obama supporters and Palin bashers with enemies of the Catholic Church. With friends like you Obama doesn't need enemies!
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My drivel tolerance level having been exceeded a little while ago (the Republican Convention), I've not dropped by Uncommon Dementia in a while even before that. I see little has changed.
But I fail to see what the cracker nonsense and the asinine Catholic reaction to it has to do with Obama, whether PZ supports him or not.
Polls are polls and DaveScot is a fatuous ass. It's too early in the season to take the one too seriously due to the vagaries of it, and the other is worthy of small consideration.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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A Christian (Catholic) sense of proportion...
