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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 10:32:53 [Permalink]
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Slow on the uptake?Talk show host Ed Shultz has published on his website, that Capitol Hill sources are reporting that McCain insiders are scared shitless of Palin's upcoming debate (or shriek) holding a press conference, and would love to skip the VP debate if they could all together:| McCain Camp insiders say Palin "clueless" Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more than concerned about Palin. The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as "disastrous." One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, "What are we going to do?" The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is "clueless." |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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 Posted - 09/26/2008 : 10:42:46 [Permalink]
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I'm baffled, too, Moak.
And speaking of which-- have you all caught the Palin interview with Couric, yet? It's painful to watch. This is particularly stunning:COURIC: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?
PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie--that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.
COURIC: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.
PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about--the need to reform government.
COURIC: I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?
PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 10:43:50 [Permalink]
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| This stinks, I feel that it is just a ploy to cancle the VP debates and not the P debates. Palin looks like a deer in the headlights when asked tough questions. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Vic Daring
New Member
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 10:44:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
Economic ineptness, gut reactions, and the foibles of Babbler Palin. Why is this election still close? 
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Well, one of the candidates is [whisper]black[/whisper] after all. |
The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 11:00:30 [Permalink]
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Seems like the McCain campaign might be falling apart.
With the debates starting... it's not a good news for them! |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 13:01:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
Seems like the McCain campaign might be falling apart.
With the debates starting... it's not a good news for them!
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It is looking that way at the moment....let's see how it plays out.
Hmmm....would the Republicans possibly "give up" on this election?
Here is what I mean; They never loved McCain in the first place. It's highly unlikely that whoever wins this election will actually be able to accomplish much over the next four years....especially in light of the current financial fiasco. They know Obama can't fix it in four years. So they let him have it (so to speak) and then they really "let him have it" (in the negative sense) fours years from now. While also trying to gain control over the House & Congress. ??? |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 13:31:50 [Permalink]
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| Well; I think that there might be a lot of high ranking Republicans that'd love that. As that means they'll get their own shoot at the oval office in 4 years while, if elected, McCain would most probably the candidate in 2012. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 13:38:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by astropin
...They know Obama can't fix it in four years. So they let him have it (so to speak) and then they really "let him have it" (in the negative sense) fours years from now. While also trying to gain control over the House & Congress. ???
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I really hope Obama gets elected and turns out to be the next FDR (minus The Great Depression II, World War II..er..I mean WWIII). When Obama is president, we can expect the Republicans not to simply become "the loyal opposition" but the NeoCons among them will actively try to undermine his presidency and look for any excuse for scandal and impeachment. Or let things get so bad (as you say) that he has to give out strong (FDR like) medicine for the country to survive. |
Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.
"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.) |
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Zeked
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 13:48:28 [Permalink]
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| would the Republicans possibly "give up" on this election? |
The Republican party gave up when they put McCain on the ticket, the man has mush for brains. The strategists could yet pull Palin from the ticket and replace her with SpongeBob SquarePants. Maverick, or just stupid? You decide.
Debate on the economy should be perversely interesting tonight. I'll count who says "Mainstreet" the most times. Both are so great at saying how much we need government. Eat a light dinner. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 14:40:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Zeked
| would the Republicans possibly "give up" on this election? |
The Republican party gave up when they put McCain on the ticket, the man has mush for brains. The strategists could yet pull Palin from the ticket and replace her with SpongeBob SquarePants. Maverick, or just stupid? You decide.
Debate on the economy should be perversely interesting tonight. I'll count who says "Mainstreet" the most times. Both are so great at saying how much we need government. Eat a light dinner.
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Even though Obama is up in the polls, it's still close. It shouldn't close, but it is.
Also, tonight's debate is supposed to be about foreign policy. But there will probably be some economic policy jabs. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 14:54:42 [Permalink]
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It just isn't looking pretty. Listen to this er, answer, from Palin.
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 15:09:09 [Permalink]
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She obviously has had a crash course on economy just prior to the interview and is now trying to remember what she was talked. Too bad she was thinking about shooting moose at the time (when is she not) and nothing stuck but a few catch all buzzwords.
'Shoring up' the economy is one. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 15:18:52 [Permalink]
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| Geez, it's almost word salad. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/26/2008 : 15:35:56 [Permalink]
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Words come out of her mouth but she isn't sayiing anything.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2008 : 15:40:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
It just isn't looking pretty. Listen to this er, answer, from Palin.
Seriously.
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OMG! I think I just peed myself!
Wait....that was really Tina Fey doing an SNL skit....right? |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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I don't know what it has to do with anything...
