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the_ignored
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 Posted - 10/22/2008 : 07:47:26
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Out of everyone here, only Dave W and I really know of this guy, but this time he's starting to get really annoying.
What did he do? I'll let his intended target explain.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
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> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/22/2008 : 13:07:55 [Permalink]
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Dan is gaming Amazon reviews of atheist books, now?
His statement to me that no man can lead another to God is looking like just so much more hypocrisy.
I had to quit visiting his blog because of that sort of nonsense. There really is no reasoning with the guy - no logic behind his arguments. |
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Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/23/2008 : 08:37:48 [Permalink]
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That's pretty much the consensus here and there as well.
Well, if you look at the final posts on Dan's site, it looks like he's apologized. Loftus seems to have forgiven him...
Think Dan's sincere? Still, that's a lot better than most creationists. Even I've been able to get him to back down once in a while, I think. Compare Dan to, say, Sarfati.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
| Edited by - the_ignored on 10/23/2008 08:42:41 |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 10/24/2008 : 09:02:29 [Permalink]
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I'm wondering about the sincerity of his apology. Why? Dan calls an advert that atheists placed on the side of a bus "awful". What was so awful about it? Well, ask him. He posts about it on his own blog, where we see the "awful" thing that he alluded to in the previous post. (Though if you follow the FOX news link from that first link, you'll see it anyway).
Though for comparison's sake, look at the FOX news article Dan links to, and then check out the links "Quasar" gives on Dan's own site (the second link I gave here).
Interesting the difference a title makes.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/11/2008 : 19:31:29 [Permalink]
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Ah. Here's the thread I was looking for...
I've tried to deal with this idiot, when I caught him misquoting Micheal Ruse, but get a load of how he responds. The first part of his comment is to my comment.
He avoids any possibility that he and the creationists are the ones doing the misquoting here. He goes on to say that either Ruse is being dishonest or I am. The prick.
So, I've let him have it.
EDIT: The misquote of Ruse is this:
Dr Michael Ruse, an eloquent spokesman for evolution today, has admitted:
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more then mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion. A full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian, (no such thing) but I must admit that in this one complaint...the literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today." |
It's the same quote that Answers in Genesis once used. Dan doesn't even provide a source for it.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/12/2008 : 20:55:26 [Permalink]
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Man, that Dan character is dense. If he'd been an element, it'd be a black hole.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/12/2008 : 22:01:11 [Permalink]
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| Well, at least Dan's given the source now. It's the same newspaper article I had referenced. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2008 : 11:15:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
Well, at least Dan's given the source now. It's the same newspaper article I had referenced.
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I've been searching from that article, to see if the quote is accurate, but I can't find the source online.
As Dan's quote stands now, it's just a copy of all the other creationist-sites out there...
Now, you potentially have him by the balls, Dan claiming to quote Michael Ruse yet publishing an altered version. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/13/2008 : 11:42:58 [Permalink]
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Yeah, but it can't really be proven. I've got the full article on my harddrive, but he (if I remember correctly) does quote an unaltered part. It's the rest of the context that he and the creationists mess up.
Though yeah, it's the same section from the article that the creationists quote.
And, he didn't say where he got it until after I had posted it. Maybe I should test him and ask what various other sentences begin the other paragraphs of that article. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 11/16/2008 : 09:02:41 [Permalink]
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Later on in that same thread I've been challenging him to quote or say what the second paragraph of that article was that he claims to have read. It's a part I did not quote. I have the full article that Ruse had emailed me.
Let's see...he'll likely stall until he can get a copy, then quote it.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 12:56:36 [Permalink]
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Well, still no answer to my challenge above. In the meantime, here's a quote from him:
| Want a scary thought? If you want my true position, I feel the schools should reintroduce, the Holy Bible for study as the single greatest book for mankind's historicity. To also add even more intense mandatory study classes as moral groundings with the Holy Bible as the 'only' textbook. Bible memorization classes mandatory from 2nd grade to Masters Degree. That all employers should give every worker 2 hours a day for group Holy Bible study and reading with an Hour a day for personal reading, reflection and prayer. Without it, we as a nation and a world will be doomed. |
I guess the constitution casn go fuck itself, eh?
He elaborates later: | I will tell you that I hold some positions that Stan and Dani'El hold. Rationally, the Bible in the schools would probably do more harm than good at this point of the game, one can dream and wish though. We would have to be united as a society to implement such a thing. Sadly, the US just isn't it's namesake anymore. |
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/18/2008 : 13:42:18 [Permalink]
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It IS unconstitutional. But, then again, I am of the opinion that the constitution is here to be modified (seriously, it is a great and indispensable guideline; of course; but the idea of something being unconstitutional as being a definitive answer irks me. Sure, second amendment, well; we can always change the constitution; dummy!)
No, my real beef is about the 'morality' of the bible. The bible is not a good textbook on any subject and the bible is an horrible, terrible teacher of moral. One that promote unconditional obedience, even against one's most basic instincts and moral (Genese 11; Judges 11:31 to 11:37) and genocides and war crimes (Joshua 8:22; Judges, 1:25; Judges 12:6); subjugation of women and homophobic bigotry.
Sadly, most people never take the time to actually read the text... I know that we would have many more atheists if it was the case. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/27/2008 : 19:04:25 [Permalink]
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Wonder if he'll take offense to my comparing him to the borg?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/27/2008 : 23:24:44 [Permalink]
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He did not seem to. Just like he did sidestep around your questions.
'It's all God's will so it does not have to make sense (or be coherent with my own professed values)'
And that is why there is nothing as nearly as religious as a religious fanatic... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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Dave W.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 11/28/2008 : 11:39:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Dammit, Ig, you sucked me back in.
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You guys are nuts...
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
Genetic Literacy Project |
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Dan the dispshit "debunker"
