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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:01:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
I am just glad I do not live in Europe!
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...and I consider Sweden the greatest nation in the world to live it.
When I got invited to Dragon*Con by Derek, it took me months to finally decide that I'd even wanted to visit your country.
I'd not contemplate living in USA for any extended period of time, not in a hundred years. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, if I could find a place which most resembled Sweden. Which state in USA is most socialistic?
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:01:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tomk80
Originally posted by Robb
Quite possibly. I feel young people are generally more liberal than not. They are real comfortable with spending other peoples money.
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Socialist up to the time you work 
Meh, lived in America for half a year. Nothing makes you so willing to pay taxes as going to America. You guys can't even maintain your roads properly! |
Hmmm. America's a big place. I see plenty of well-maintained roads. Can't say I've seen all of them, but you make it sound like the whole country is dirt roads and gravel.
I lived in Italy for half a year and traveled in Europe several other times since then. It's not like the whole of Europe is marvelous gold-plated pathways or something.
Anyhow, this thread isn't a US vs. Europe debate and I don't want to waste too much time on it (though Dude is right-- the US has a lot it can learn from Europe!). I'll just say that aside from rooting against McCain so as to stop the ever-encroaching Republican theocratic agenda, I also hope that an Obama victory will finally enable the federal government to do things it's supposed to, like repair infrastructure. The last 8 years have been a real disaster for this country in that regard (among very, very many).
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:03:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
When I got invited to Dragon*Con by Derek, it took me months to finally decide that I'd even wanted to visit your country. |
Months to even decide that you wanted to visit? No offense, Mab, but that's sort of pathetic. |
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WarfRat
New Member
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:07:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by Robb
I am just glad I do not live in Europe!
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...and I consider Sweden the greatest nation in the world to live it.
When I got invited to Dragon*Con by Derek, it took me months to finally decide that I'd even wanted to visit your country.
I'd not contemplate living in USA for any extended period of time, not in a hundred years. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, if I could find a place which most resembled Sweden. Which state in USA is most socialistic?
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The one party Commonwealth of Massachusetts!!!
Our tax rate will remind you of home... Heck Sweden may be cheaper! |
"I believe...that one benefits the workers...so much more by forcing through reforms which alleviate and strengthen their position, than by saying that only a revolution can help them." |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:15:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by Robb
I am just glad I do not live in Europe!
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...and I consider Sweden the greatest nation in the world to live it.
When I got invited to Dragon*Con by Derek, it took me months to finally decide that I'd even wanted to visit your country.
I'd not contemplate living in USA for any extended period of time, not in a hundred years. Maybe I could be convinced otherwise, if I could find a place which most resembled Sweden. Which state in USA is most socialistic?
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I have been leaving here for a bit more than 4 years now.
Can't complain personally but then, I am single healthy and with no children to provide for. And, honestly, I have quite modest needs.
Also, I have a secure state job. So, I am probably doing better than many natives and, if I settle and make my career here; I would probably do fine.
Still; I would not like to make my live here. I would probably be among the privileged ones that have little to worry about. But I don't like having to be among the privileged ones for that. And when I passes my genes along; I wouldn't like my kids to consider it to be the normal state of a society... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:34:10 [Permalink]
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Which Live WEB TV is best in terms of following the election and election results?
Some TV that is not factually challenged like Faux-News or CNN.
I would have watched a Swedish WEB-TV but they are just talking, and not following the numbers and districts...
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:42:37 [Permalink]
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| Don't know, but you reminded me to check out The Real News. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 17:44:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Which Live WEB TV is best in terms of following the election and election results?
Some TV that is not factually challenged like Faux-News or CNN.
I would have watched a Swedish WEB-TV but they are just talking, and not following the numbers and districts...
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PBS looks like it will start streaming live video in just over an hour. Right now, most voting stations are still open, Mab, so there aren't a lot of numbers to talk about just yet. But when things start closing soon (in ca. 15 minutes) you'll hear more. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:16:19 [Permalink]
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| I am on CNN right now and... fuck... so far there is a lot of states where Obama is heading by 10 points or more (he actually in the mid 60 in quite a few...) it's early but... fuck... that's impressive! |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:17:58 [Permalink]
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By the way guys... Anybody feels like heading to the chat room?
We can share excitement and nervosity in real time this way...
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:20:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
By the way guys... Anybody feels like heading to the chat room?
We can share excitement and nervosity in real time this way...
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I'll go ahead and set that up for anyone who wants. I should be up for a few more hours at least... |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:22:51 [Permalink]
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Do you need to settle it up?
I thought that just clicking on the icon suffice to open it... I definitively am in a chat room right now... all alone... :'( |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:23:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
Do you need to settle it up?
I thought that just clicking on the icon suffice to open it... I definitively am in a chat room right now... all alone... :'(
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Well, I turned on the sign, so now any SFN people who want to chat about the election can come join in... |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2008 : 18:33:03 [Permalink]
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| Ok... Now it's pretty and shiny like a new Orleans brothel... |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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The Official SFN US Elections Thread
