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Gorgo
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WarfRat
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Posted - 01/30/2009 : 13:01:15 [Permalink]
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Because the first term of any president is about getting elected to a 2nd term.
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"I believe...that one benefits the workers...so much more by forcing through reforms which alleviate and strengthen their position, than by saying that only a revolution can help them." |
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Simon
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Posted - 01/30/2009 : 13:03:28 [Permalink]
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| And because I don't see any compelling reason why. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Dave W.
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WarfRat
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Posted - 01/30/2009 : 16:00:36 [Permalink]
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It's perpetual per a treaty prior to Castro's revolution.
The Castro gov't has never cashed in the rent checks. |
"I believe...that one benefits the workers...so much more by forcing through reforms which alleviate and strengthen their position, than by saying that only a revolution can help them." |
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Simon
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Posted - 01/30/2009 : 16:43:17 [Permalink]
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Because the Cubans know better than to give an excuse for an all out war.
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 01/31/2009 : 04:49:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
And because I don't see any compelling reason why.
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It's a symbol of empire. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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WarfRat
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 10:47:00 [Permalink]
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It a left over form the Spanish-American war. Would you think that American bases in Germany and Japan are also symbols of empire.
Off Topic cuz I know you'll like it:
I saw "Cuba: African Odyssey" on IFC. If you haven't seen it, sse it you'll like it. |
"I believe...that one benefits the workers...so much more by forcing through reforms which alleviate and strengthen their position, than by saying that only a revolution can help them." |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 12:00:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by WarfRat
It a left over form the Spanish-American war. Would you think that American bases in Germany and Japan are also symbols of empire.
Off Topic cuz I know you'll like it:
I saw "Cuba: African Odyssey" on IFC. If you haven't seen it, sse it you'll like it.
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Okay. Thanks. Yes, bases all over the world are about empire. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 13:55:25 [Permalink]
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Sure. So what?
It's origin is quite shameful, sure, but it does not affect the status quo. Or should the US also give back Oklahoma? |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 18:36:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
Sure. So what?
It's origin is quite shameful, sure, but it does not affect the status quo. Or should the US also give back Oklahoma?
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Good idea. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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chaloobi
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 05:56:43 [Permalink]
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| If we need the base, we should keep it. If we don't, like if we're keeping it because we still hate Castro after all these years and we want to thumb our noses at him with it, then we should close it and give it back. |
-Chaloobi
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Simon
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 07:44:39 [Permalink]
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| Well, the US need the base, obviously. Where else would they put illegal prisoners to abuse without journalists bringing damning evidence immediately? |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 10:30:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
Well, the US need the base, obviously. Where else would they put illegal prisoners to abuse without journalists bringing damning evidence immediately?
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Texas? |
-Chaloobi
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Simon
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 11:34:01 [Permalink]
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| Cm'on, even if the prisoners were guilty, I would not wish that on them. Cruel and unusual punishment, indeed. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996 |
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WarfRat
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 12:50:19 [Permalink]
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| How bout Utah? before we give it back to the Mormons |
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Castro’s right — give it back
