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sailingsoul
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 Posted - 10/05/2009 : 15:40:18
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I know of course there is no God. If there was, all them Priest, Bishops and the Pope's, who either raped the children and members of their churches or enabled then, by hiding and covered up their crimes, would not to this day be in their positions. Still actively covering up their horrendous deeds.
With Great joy I read these words,,,,
"Breaking news from The Associated Press, The Connecticut Supreme Court has decided not to reconsider a ruling that would make public thousands of pages of documents that detail alleged sexual abuse by priests."
From here: http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/conn-church-loses-appeal-keep-abuse-records-sealed
Of course these dirt bags of Galactic proportions have been praying not to have to come clean. We all know why.
Well! all their prayers and mine (if I were to) were answered. Only the GSM knows how many prayers He answered today. Today the US Supreme Court ruled to not hear their appeal. Allelujah, allelujah, Can I have an Amen!!!
They have been saying that the end is near. Lets hope this is theirs.
Jail would be a great start but I'm not so delirious to think that's likely.
I can't find any news stories to link to on this yet, I just heard it on a news break and wanted to rejoice and deliver the news here. SS:
edit: I hope I not being premature because I heard the news wrong. That would suck.
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Edited by - sailingsoul on 10/05/2009 16:50:34
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 10/05/2009 : 17:18:09 [Permalink]
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Were I a SC Justice, I'd not touch that rat-bastard with a stick. If they toss the decision, they're coddling pedophiles; if they nail it down, they'll have the Church pissed off in a state with a large, Catholic population. It's a lose/lose proposition and not hearing it at all is about the best option they have.
We'll see....
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 11/25/2009 : 00:26:08 [Permalink]
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Well it is official .
Supreme Court Refuses to Stop Release of Documents in Priest Sex Cases
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2009
WASHINGTON (AP) — The United States Supreme Court on Monday turned away a last-ditch appeal to stop the release of documents from sexual abuse lawsuits against priests in a Roman Catholic diocese in Connecticut.
The court refused to hear the appeal from the diocese, in Bridgeport, which has fought for years to prevent the release of the documents. Last month, the justices refused to grant a delay while they considered the diocese’s full appeal.
The order was issued without comment.
The New York Times, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post and The Hartford Courant have asked to see the documents. The Connecticut Supreme Court has ruled that more than 12,000 pages from 23 lawsuits against six priests should be unsealed.
The documents include depositions, affidavits and motions.
The records have been under seal since the diocese settled the cases in 2001. They could shed light on how Cardinal Edward M. Egan of New York handled the allegations when he was the bishop of Bridgeport.
The diocese says the First Amendment prohibits civil authorities from intruding in internal church decisions about priest assignments. Diocesan officials released a statement on Monday saying they were disappointed with the decision, but would work with the Connecticut courts on releasing the documents.
“We continue to believe that the constitutional issues presented, including the First Amendment rights of religious organizations and the privacy rights of all citizens, are significant and important for the court to consider,” the statement said.
The diocese also said that there had been a “true culture change” in the church, and that leaders had worked hard to address sexual abuse by the clergy and to support victims.
A hearing was planned for Nov. 9 in Superior Court in Waterbury, Conn., to determine when to release the documents.
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Connecticut diocese must release church abuse lawsuit papers by Dec. 1, judge says
By AP
November 10th, 2009
Conn. judge: Release church abuse papers by Dec. 1
WATERBURY, Conn. — A Connecticut judge has ordered the release of thousands of documents connected to sexual abuse lawsuits involving Bridgeport’s Roman Catholic Diocese.
A Waterbury Superior Court judge ruled Tuesday that the diocese should release the sealed documents by Dec. 1.
The files consist of more than 12,000 pages from lawsuits against six priests settled by the diocese in 2001. The U.S. Supreme Court last week refused to hear the diocese’s appeal of a Connecticut Supreme Court decision ordering release of the documents.
The records include depositions, affidavits and motions that could shed light on how retired New York Cardinal Edward Egan handled the allegations when he was Bridgeport bishop.
The New York Times, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post and the Hartford Courant have asked to see the documents.
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Ha Ha ! Good for the rat bastards. "The diocese also said that there had been a "true culture change"", I say bullshit, Like they finally got religion? That's hilarious. Where has their "true culture change" been shown anywhere in their behavior? Are the criminal priest still sheltered, enjoying assignments in unsuspecting churches. True change my arse. SS |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/25/2009 : 05:04:50 [Permalink]
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Culture change? I am not sure it is possible for a religious organization to do such a thing, at least not in such a brief time span. After all, the only difference in Church dealings since Pope Alexander VI is one of degree and if it were not for secular laws and the threat of their enforcement, even that might not exist.
Which brings up another point: Did any of the accused priests ever get convicted and go to jail or were lawsuits the only result? I've lost track of it and can't recall.
Asking for "culture change" of any dogmatic church is rather like asking the leopard to change it's spots and go vegan. It just ain't on.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
 Posted - 11/27/2009 : 06:12:15 [Permalink]
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My fucking word! It's even worse than we thought in Ireland:
"LONDON — Tens of thousands of Irish children were sexually, physically and emotionally abused by nuns, priests and others over 60 years in a network of church-run residential schools meant to care for the poor, the vulnerable and the unwanted, according to a report released in Dublin on Wednesday.
Christian Brothers/The Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse
At church-run institutions in Ireland, like St. Joseph’s Industrial School, above, in an undated photo, and the Letterfrack Industrial School, below, in a photo from the late 19th or early 20th century, children were sexually, physically and emotionally abused by nuns, priests and others from the 1930s to the 1990s, according to a report released in Dublin on Wednesday.
The 2,600-page report paints a picture of institutions run more like Dickensian orphanages than 20th-century schools, characterized by privation and cruelty that could be both casual and choreographed.
“A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions,” the report says. In the boys’ schools, it says, sexual abuse was “endemic.”
The report, by a state-appointed commission, took nine years to produce and was meant to help Ireland face and move on from one of the ugliest aspects of its recent history. But it has infuriated many victims’ groups because it does not name any of the hundreds of individuals accused of abuse and thus cannot be used as a basis for prosecutions.
It was delayed because of a lawsuit brought by the Christian Brothers, the religious order that ran many of the boys’ schools and that fought, ultimately successfully, to have the abusers’ names omitted. In 2003, the commission’s first chairwoman resigned, saying that Ireland’s Department of Education had refused to release crucial documents. The report covers a period from the 1930s to the 1990s, when the last of the institutions closed.
It exposes for the first time the scope of the problem in Ireland, as well as how the government and the church colluded in perpetuating an abusive system. The revelations have also had the effect of stripping the Catholic Church, which once set the agenda in Ireland, of much of its moral authority and political power.
The report singles out Ireland’s Department of Education, meant to regulate the schools, for running “toothless” inspections that overlooked glaring problems and deferred to church authority.
The report is based in part on old church records of unreported abuse cases and in part on the anonymous testimony of 1,060 former students from a variety of 216 mostly church-run institutions, including reformatories and so-called industrial schools, set up to tend to neglected, orphaned or abandoned children.
Most of the former students are now 50 to 80 years old.
Some 30,000 children were sent to such places over six decades, the report says, often against their families’ wishes and because of pressure from powerful local priests. They were sent because their families could not afford to care for them, because their mothers had committed adultery or given birth out of wedlock, or because one or both of their parents was ill, drunken or abusive. They were also sent because of petty crime, like stealing food, or because they had missed school.
Many of the former students said that they had not learned their own identities until decades later. They also said that their parents had unsuccessfully tried to reclaim them from the state.
In a litany that sounds as if it comes from the records of a P.O.W. camp, the report chronicles some of the forms of physical abuse suffered in the boys’ schools:
“Punching, flogging, assault and bodily attacks, hitting with the hand, kicking, ear pulling, hair pulling, head shaving, beating on the soles of the feet, burning, scalding, stabbing, severe beatings with or without clothes, being made to kneel and stand in fixed positions for lengthy periods, made to sleep outside overnight, being forced into cold or excessively hot baths and showers, hosed down with cold water before being beaten, beaten while hanging from hooks on the wall, being set upon by dogs, being restrained in order to be beaten, physical assaults by more than one person, and having objects thrown at them.”
Some of the schools operated essentially as workhouses. In one school, Goldenbridge, girls as young as 7 spent hours a day making rosaries by stringing beads onto lengths of wire. They were given quotas: 600 beads on weekdays and 900 on Sundays."
There is another page to this massacree, equally disgusting.
"With great power comes great responsibility." The Catholic Church has wielded great power for the best part of 2,000 years, even to the point of the leaders of mighty nations kow-towing to it, and has shirked the responsibility throughout it's tenure. It claims moral authority but fails to exercise that authority upon itself. It seeks only to increase it's influence at the cost of others, stealing their wealth as well as controlling their thoughts. And raping their children at every opportunity, turning their sanctuaries into playgrounds for sadistic pederasts.
Back in the day, that worked out pretty well for them, but today, with communication being what it is, these foul bags of douche are more easily exposed for what they are. And when caught, they rattle a string of beads and apologetically prattle about "isolated incidence."
Isolated incidence..... Yeah, right! 
I find myself amused when a politician is denied Communion, as happened to Kerry in '04 and just recently to Kennedy. It demonstrates a feeble grasp for political influence that no longer works -- the good ol' days are gone, praise Lucifer, or somebody. The Church is in something of a decline as people realize that they are being led, not to some mythical Heaven, but to a moral and ethical sink-hole by scoundrels, perverts and madmen. It's that communications thing again.
I doubt if the Church will ever experience it's long overdue demise. As long as so many people insist on being fools, there will be scoundrels, perverts and madmen to hand them a cracker and lead them to their version of "Grace." 
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Hawks
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Canada
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Posted - 11/27/2009 : 08:24:34 [Permalink]
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Yeah, but the Catholic church is a force for good, remember...?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/27/2009 : 09:43:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Yeah, but the Catholic church is a force for good, remember...?
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Good for whom? The Church supports a lot of charities and so forth, but ultimately it's goal is influence; forgive me the cynicism, but that's my take on it. Doing something for the poor is good PR and relative to their available wealth, it is small spuds indeed.
Of course, not all priests are scumbag pedophiles -- indeed, most are not -- but the tar from that brush can fly far & wide. Had the Church had the courage to stamp this sort of thing out early on, there would be little problem with it. Instead, they chose to hide their shame away and hope it would never be found out.
I think that the celibacy lunacy big factor. If priests, and nuns were allowed to marry, or at least hire a hooker -- of either gender for either -- once in a while, the problem would diminish considerably.
But you know and I know that it ain't gonna happen. By it's very nature, the Church is hide-bound in it's asinine dogma and will never budge.
Another thought: What we are seeing is only what has been found out. The Church is a huge organization, spread like a fungal infection throughout the world. I'd expect more scandals of this nature to come to light. Tip of the iceberg, maybe...?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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God tells Catholic Bishops, Your Ass is Mine!
