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 Posted - 11/29/2009 : 08:33:45
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The kettle of religious sludgewits at the Discovery Institute are having a joyous circle jerk over the hacked e-mails. For some reason, unfathomable to anyone with a working intellect, they seem to think it vindicates all of their fantasies.
Discovery Institute Creationists Thrilled About 'Climategate'
Environment | Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 5:47:18 pm PST
Another right wing group working overtime to capitalize on the stolen CRU email “scandal:” the dishonest creationist wackos at the Discovery Institute. And as usual, they take the idiocy to a whole new level, claiming that the CRU emails discredit all of modern science. Yes, really.
The Sensuous Curmudgeon has a good rundown of their latest incredibly strange theocratic rant: Discovery Institute: The Mask Falls Away.
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Here's another link, from Green Footballs that's a good read.
So, how 'bout them ol' E-mails, anyway? Well....
Hot »Financial Crisis | Dubai | Banks | Asia | HSBC | Gold ... more topics Download The Entire Leaked Climate Emails
Joe Weisenthal|Nov. 21, 2009, 3:51 PM | 6,014 |33
PrintTags: Global Warming, Scandals
It's now been confirmed that the allegedly leaked emails of top climate scientists are, in which they express some reservations about the info they present to the public, are, in fact, real.
If you're interested, you can download the entire, monster .zip file at Wikileaks.
Karl Denninger, in his enthusiastic manner (which we mean in a good way), has been going through the emails, and plucking out interesting bits:
Contained within the documents are what appear to be admissions of intentional tampering with data as well as intentional falsification of results to "show" man-made global warming.
One of the emails says:
"I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline."
That is, to hide a decline in global temperatures.
It gets better. Another message, this one allegedly from 2000:
It was good to see you again yesterday - if briefly. One particular thing you said - and we agreed - was about the IPCC reports and the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalisation agenda driven by organisations like the WTO. So my first question is do you have anything written or published, or know of anything particularly on this subject, which talks about this in more detail?
Oh, so it's not about the planet getting warmer, but rather is a convenient means of advancing an agenda that has already been pre-determined?
Then there's this:
In my (perhaps too
> > harsh)
> > view, there have been a number of dishonest presentations of model
> > results by individual authors and by IPCC. This is why I still use
> > results from MAGICC to compare with observed temperatures. At least
> > here I can assess how sensitive matches are to sensitivity and
> > forcing assumptions/uncertainties.
(Pardon the formatting, it's text-mode email 'yanno.)
Guess who that was addressed to? Michael Mann. You know, the (infamous and now discredited) "Mann Hockey Stick"?
Guess where that email originated? NASA.
Read the whole thing >
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I've only read a few of them and while I think it's a great deal about not-very-much, I'll reserve further comment until those better versed in the science than I take a crack at it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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Climategate and the Disco Toot.
