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Just for the hell of it, I googled around a bit and found this. It's the same pics we've all seen ad nauseum. There is a little text with each picture. And there is a black guy in it -- I wonder if he's still active in the party due to shit like this:
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On a related matter:
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Southern Poverty Law Center Report: Radical Right Catches Fire
Number of "Patriot" Groups, Militias Surges by 244% in Past Year
MONTGOMERY, Ala., March 2 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The number of extremist groups in the United States exploded in 2009 as militias and other groups steeped in wild, antigovernment conspiracy theories exploited populist anger across the country and infiltrated the mainstream, according to a report issued today by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).
Antigovernment "Patriot" groups – militias and other extremist organizations that see the federal government as their enemy – came roaring back to life over the past year after more than a decade out of the limelight.
The SPLC documented a 244 percent increase in the number of active Patriot groups in 2009. Their numbers grew from 149 groups in 2008 to 512 groups in 2009, an astonishing addition of 363 new groups in a single year. Militias – the paramilitary arm of the Patriot movement – were a major part of the increase, growing from 42 militias in 2008 to 127 in 2009.
The report, which is the cover story in the Spring 2010 issue of the SPLC's quarterly investigative journal Intelligence Report, can be read at www.splcenter.org.
Patriot groups have been fueled by anger over the changing demographics of the country, the soaring public debt, the troubled economy and an array of initiatives by President Obama that have been branded "socialist" or even "fascist" by his political opponents.
"This extraordinary growth is a cause for grave concern," said Intelligence Report editor Mark Potok. "The people associated with the Patriot movement during its 1990s heyday produced an enormous amount of violence, most dramatically the Oklahoma City bombing that left 168 people dead."
The Patriot movement has made significant inroads into the conservative political scene, according to the new report. "The 'tea parties' and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism," the report says.
Unlike the 1990s, the Patriot movement's central ideas are being promoted by people with large audiences, such as FOX News' Glenn Beck and U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Beck, for instance, reinvigorated a key Patriot conspiracy theory – the charge that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is secretly running concentration camps – before finally "debunking" it.
The growth of Patriot groups comes at a time when the number of racist hate groups stayed at record levels – rising from 926 in 2008 to 932 in 2009, according to the report. The increase caps a decade in which the number of hate groups surged by 55 percent. The expansion would have been much greater in 2009 if not for the demise of the American National Socialist Workers Party, a key neo-Nazi network whose founder was arrested in October 2008.
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The recent Austin IRS building attack is leaving those who serve only the public interest feeling terrorized and unsafe. Politicians like Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) have fueled anti-government rage with suggestions that public workers who organize are a threat to national security. The Patriot movement has made significant inroads into the conservative political scene, according to the new report. "The 'tea parties' and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism," the report says.
Unlike the 1990s, the Patriot movement's central ideas are being promoted by people with large audiences, such as FOX News' Glenn Beck and U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Beck, for instance, reinvigorated a key Patriot conspiracy theory - the charge that the Federal Emergency Management Agency is secretly running concentration camps - before finally "debunking" it.
The growth of Patriot groups comes at a time when the number of racist hate groups stayed at record levels - rising from 926 in 2008 to 932 in 2009, according to the report. The increase caps a decade in which the number of hate groups surged by 55 percent. The expansion would have been much greater in 2009 if not for the demise of the American National Socialist Workers Party, a key neo-Nazi network whose founder was arrested in October 2008.
There also has been a surge in "nativist extremist" groups - vigilante organizations that go beyond advocating strict immigration policy and actually confront or harass suspected immigrants. These groups grew from 173 groups in 2008 to 309 in 2009, a rise of nearly 80 percent.
These three strands of the radical right - the hate groups, the nativist extremist groups, and the Patriot organizations - are the most volatile elements on the American political landscape. Taken together, their numbers increased by more than 40 percent, rising from 1,248 groups in 2008 to 1,753 last year.
There are already signs of radical right violence reminiscent of the 1990s. Right-wing extremists have murdered six law enforcement officers since Obama's inauguration. Racist skinheads and others have been arrested in alleged plots to assassinate the president. Most recently, as recounted in the new issue of the Intelligence Report, a number of individuals with antigovernment, survivalist or racist views have been arrested in a series of bomb cases.
The hate groups listed in this report include neo-Nazis, white nationalists, neo-Confederates, racist skinheads, Klansmen and black separatists. Other hate groups target gays or immigrants, and some specialize in producing racist music or propaganda denying the Holocaust. A list and interactive, state-by-state map of active hate groups can be viewed here. |
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| Originally posted by Dave W. |
| While Mark Skoda, founder of the Memphis Tea Party, said, "it doesn't further the dialogue." Perhaps not, but it's letting everyone know where it's coming from. |
The machine I am now on won't let me watch youtube. I'll have to watch that at home. The CNN article only quotes people as complaining that BO is a socialist and they are fed up with the massive fed. gov. spending. They also said they felt JM would have been a worse president then BO was. I did not see anything about them objecting to BO's skin color. But even if they did my springboard onto this thread was not the claim that any or all Tea Party movements are pure and refine of any crackpot individuals or fringe splinter groups who have attached themselves to the main stream of the movement. Any movement or organization of this size is going to have a wide array of people in the mix. Just ask ACORN about that. Or the Homosexuals. Whenever someone brings up the dudes dressed in leather and whips who are performing sexual acts in public at the local gay pride parade the first thing out of the homosexual apologists mouth is how this is a very very small fringe minority of the homosexual movement The NAACP has their share of fringe individuals and splinter groups who tie themselves in with the mainstream movement as well. Me, personally, I think their are some racists embedded in the NAACP but I don't thing that makes the group, as a whole, a racist organization. It is no different with the Tea Party folks. In a group of this scope and size there is no doubt that you will find some crack pots who get up and say some irrational things under the banner of the organization. All groups and movement's of this size have to deal with that fact of life.
My springboard was Half Mooner flippantly and without any merit lambasting Janet Allquist as some radical racist on par with the KKK. All after he just falsely accused me of racism a few weeks back and had to eat crow. What he is doing would be no different then if I searched the members list of every participant with the SFN over the last 5 years and found a few crack pots who had some radical ideas in their profiles or had even posted these beliefs in the forums and then cherry picked these few examples and used them for the accusation that anyone involved with the SFN is a radical fundamentalist citing the cherry picked information as evidence.
Let us review HM's cheep and childish lambasting hatchet job:
Janet Allquist
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So at best HM implies that JA should be suspected of racism just because she is involved with one of the tea party movements and comes from a white majority town. At worst he labels her a racist because she is involved with a chapter of the tea party and lives in a community where white people have a population majority. The question that I would like HM to address is can I apply his same standards to a black women from Harlem who goes to a GWB protest? HM paints with a wide brush when tossing around his racist land mines. Certainly you would acknowledge that.
| I think it's relevant to note that here is someone trekking across country from an overwhelmingly white enclave |
More ridiculous and irresponsible sensationalism in HM's hatchet job of JA. Can I apply these same standards to a black women from Harlem who goes to a GWB protest?
More ridiculous and irresponsible sensationalism in HM's hatchet job of JA.
| to participate in a lily-white demonstration with obvious racist overtones, |
More ridiculous and irresponsible sensationalism in HM's hatchet job of JA.
| especially when this is a demonstration against the first African-American President. |
MLK's dream was that one day his children and mine would not be seen as black kids or white kids, but rather just kids. And they that they would be judged on merit alone. When is HM going to allow us to move one step closer to this dream by dropping his fixation with the fact that BO is black? Why can't he just see BO as president rather then BO as a black president? It's like he roams back and forth just looking for someone who he can throw his racist bomb at. He thinks he can make these flippantly and false accusations because he marched when he was 17. He is a white little Jesse Jackson. He walks around and drops racist bombs on anyone who gets in his way. I notice neither Jesse nor Al ever apologized for all the BS they spouted at the Duke Lacrosse players after they where declared innocent. And even after their false accuser just went to jail for attempted murder they said nothing. Nice guys that Al and Jesse are. Falsely lambaste young college boys in the public and then say nothing with the allegations are proved ridiculous.
When that demonstration seems to be financed by tax-exempt, corporate-funded, right-wing non-profit groups, that racial detail seems important to note. Your perception may, and doubtless does, vary.
Astroturfing is a very important issue for a movement that's billed by it's corporate financiers as an honest, grassroots populist moment, especially when those corporate backers are designing, printing, and manufacturing placards for their stooges. |
I am sure he feels the same way about Moveon.org and George Soross. |
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Originally posted by filthy
Just for the hell of it, I googled around a bit and found this. It's the same pics we've all seen ad nauseum. There is a little text with each picture. And there is a black guy in it -- I wonder if he's still active in the party due to shit like this:
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First of all your going to have to convince me that this was not Photoshoped. Second, I never denied the existence of fringe lunatics within any organization of this size. (See above post)
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| Originally posted by filthy |
| The far left, including myself, loathed and despised that senile, old douche, Reagan, who was also white. So what? |
Again, nice and slow. The right is accused of going after BO simply because he is black. I say BS and note the fact they went after Carter and Clinton with equal fervor. Just like Carter and Clinton the right is challenging BO's policy. It's you guys who fixate on the fact the our president is black and not me.
| And basketball, et al., has nothing to do with teabaggers. |
Except for the NBA is heavily employed by an overwhelming majority of black males. And according to your logic that means the NBA is undoubtedly a racist association who is against whites and hispanics.
| I have voiced an opinion based upon my observations. |
Your logic is silly and it makes the NBA, BET, NAAACP etc.. etc... all racists entities by your own definition.
| Currently, I see nothing on the horizon that might cause me to change it. |
That is because you see what you want to see and just ignore the reality of it all.
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Originally posted by podcat
As Keith Olbermann asked, "Where are all the people of color in the tea parties?"
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Where are all the people of color at the SFN? Must be a group heavy into racism and segregation then. |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Originally posted by podcat
As Keith Olbermann asked, "Where are all the people of color in the tea parties?"
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Where are all the people of color at the SFN? Must be a group heavy into racism and segregation then.
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Don't know; never bothered to ask. You can if you wish -- you certainly are freaked out over this, aren't you?
I mostly ignore the NBA, NFL, NHL, FOX, NAACP, and other silly
acronyms such as GOP. Does that mean that I ain't sporty enough to suit you as well as being a racist?
But I must remind; with the exception of the NAACP,these are business enterprises and like any business, they chose the best qualified personnel available.
The tea/scumbagger with the sign was not a photo shop. Another showed him with some repairs on it. But don't take my word for it; look it up. I'd do it for you, as I have in the past, but don't care enough this time.
But not to worry, come election time the teabaggers will fade back into the Republican circle-jerk, leaving only the dedicated assholes to carry the misspelled signs and lust after Palin's ass.
Oh, and what exactly is the BET? How can I ignore it if I don't know what it is?
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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| Meh. Racism aside, what is really wrong with the teabaggers is that they are a bunch of idiots. From the top down and with all of the fringe that comes with them. The very idea that Obama is leading us to becoming a socialist country is idiotic. What they really hate is that they lost... |
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| Where are all the people color at the SFN? Must be a racist group then heavy into segregation. |
Don't know; never bothered to ask. |
But yet everyone asks the same thing of the Tea Party people. (sigh)
| You can if you wish -- you certainly are freaked out over this, aren't you? |
Me? I never brought it up. I was simply asked where all the people of color were at the tea parties and I simply reversed the question and asked where are the people of color in your association? Now all of a sudden, when it comes to SFN, it's a moot point?
I mostly ignore the NBA, NFL, NHL, FOX, NAACP, and other silly
acronyms such as GOP. Does that mean that I ain't sporty enough to suit you as well as being a racist? |
I am not going to label you a darn thing. What I did was demonstrate that when we use your logic the amount of groups and associations that would now be considered a racist entity is stunning.
| But I must remind; with the exception of the NAACP,these are business enterprises and like any business, they chose the best qualified personnel available. |
Why does not my local fire and police station hire in the same way? If my house is on fire I want the best qualified personal manning the equipment, but it don't work that way in the governments fantasy world. And SFN is not a business but yet where are all the people of color here?
| The tea/scumbagger with the sign was not a photo shop. Another showed him with some repairs on it. But don't take my word for it; look it up. I'd do it for you, as I have in the past, but don't care enough this time. |
Either way I stand by my original point. I never once said that any organization of this size would be able to escape the fringe nut-jobs that pepper all organizations of this size.
| But not to worry, come election time the teabaggers will fade back into the Republican circle-jerk, leaving only the dedicated assholes to carry the misspelled signs and lust after Palin's ass. |
Only time will tell what is going to happen come mid-terms.
| Oh, and what exactly is the BET? How can I ignore it if I don't know what it is? |
Black Entertainment Television. They don't have very many white people on the network. Using your logic I can call them racist for just that fact alone. |
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Originally posted by Kil
Meh. Racism aside, what is really wrong with the teabaggers is that they are a bunch of idiots. From the top down and with all of the fringe that comes with them. The very idea that Obama is leading us to becoming a socialist country is idiotic. What they really hate is that they lost...
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You really believe that November 08 was the election to end all elections? Ever since "you won" in 08 the dems have been 0-3. They lost two governors and a senator and BO's is not exactly cleaning up at the polls by any means. And this is all before the mid-terms. If you think Scott Brown was a slap in the face just hold on jr. And if they ram this health bill threw they might as well slit their own wrist in the process. |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Originally posted by Kil
Meh. Racism aside, what is really wrong with the teabaggers is that they are a bunch of idiots. From the top down and with all of the fringe that comes with them. The very idea that Obama is leading us to becoming a socialist country is idiotic. What they really hate is that they lost...
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You really believe that November 08 was the election to end all elections? Ever since "you won" in 08 the dems have been 0-3. They lost two governors and a senator and BO's is not exactly cleaning up at the polls by any means. And this is all before the mid-terms. If you think Scott Brown was a slap in the face just hold on jr. And if they ram this health bill threw they might as well slit their own wrist in the process.
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As I said, a bunch of idiots. Health reform is needed, and what the other side has offered is not health reform. Even what's left of the bill that may or may not get passed is not enough. But my comment was not about health reform specifically. It's about making someone like Sarah Palin, an idiot, someone to cheer for. You guys are working for corporate interests only looking to protect their own profit margins, in spite of the fact that they will still be making a bundle, and you don't even know it. Idiots! |
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| You guys are working for corporate interests |
I am not working for anybody. I have never been to a tea party, donated money to the tea party nor do I plan to at any time in the future. I simply jumped into this thread to accuse HM of throwing racist bombs and making baseless and unfounded comments about people associated with the tea party. If he was making these baseless and unfounded claims against someone from the ACLU I still would have called him on it. A bomb thrower is a bomb thrower. |
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Originally posted by Bill scott
The CNN article only quotes people as complaining that BO is a socialist and they are fed up with the massive fed. gov. spending. They also said they felt JM would have been a worse president then BO was. I did not see anything about them objecting to BO's skin color. |
Well, you should have waited to see the video. Tancredo clearly calls for a return to civics tests for voting rights, a harkening back to the days before 1965, when brown people were routinely disenfranchised through the unfair use of such tests.| But even if they did my springboard onto this thread was not the claim that any or all Tea Party movements are pure and refine of any crackpot individuals or fringe splinter groups who have attached themselves to the main stream of the movement. Any movement or organization of this size is going to have a wide array of people in the mix. Just ask ACORN about that. Or the Homosexuals. Whenever someone brings up the dudes dressed in leather and whips who are performing sexual acts in public at the local gay pride parade the first thing out of the homosexual apologists mouth is how this is a very very small fringe minority of the homosexual movement The NAACP has their share of fringe individuals and splinter groups who tie themselves in with the mainstream movement as well. Me, personally, I think their are some racists embedded in the NAACP but I don't thing that makes the group, as a whole, a racist organization. It is no different with the Tea Party folks. In a group of this scope and size there is no doubt that you will find some crack pots who get up and say some irrational things under the banner of the organization. All groups and movement's of this size have to deal with that fact of life. |
I'd agree, except that it's clear that the kick-off speaker of the National Tea Party convention is a racist whose racism was cheered on by those in the audience. We're not talking about a fringe group within the Tea Partiers, we're talking about a guy who was given center-stage, and used it with approval from the rabble.
Heck, one of the "Non-Negotiable Core Beliefs of the Tea Party" (along with Inappropriate Capitalization) is "English Only," a code phrase for "keep the brown people out of government."
You also wrote:| First of all your going to have to convince me that this was not Photoshoped |
Actually, Dale Robertson (the guy in the photo, and the founder of the Tea Party movement) Photoshopped it himself after posting it (the original, "CONGRESS = SLAVE OWNER / TAX PAYER = NIGGAR" version) on his own Web site and seeing the crap hit the fan. He changed it so the whole sign read "I Work 4 U," obviously scribbled on with the mouse in random colors. And as of Feb 12, he'd changed it again, to read "CONGRESS = SLAVE OWNER / TAX PAYER = SINNER," which makes even less sense. The image appears to have been removed entirely from the site since then, but you can see all three over here.
(Oh, and I just caught this from an earlier post of yours: "The housing mess we are in now is because we went out of our way to force banks to give housing loans to people who could never pay it back." Bill, you really shouldn't drink the Libertarian Kool-Aid.) |
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| Originally posted by Dave W. |
| I'd agree, except that it's clear that the kick-off speaker of the National Tea Party convention is a racist whose racism was cheered on by those in the audience. We're not talking about a fringe group within the Tea Partiers, we're talking about a guy who was given center-stage, and used it with approval from the rabble |
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Yet Mark Skoda, a spoksmen for the tea party, said the speech was problematic and doesn't further the dialogue. So apparently there are several factions withing the tea party itself. But regardless, I never chimed in to defend the purity of the movement. I chimed in to call HM on his baseless and flippant bomb throwing.
| Heck, one of the "Non-Negotiable Core Beliefs of the Tea Party" (along with Inappropriate Capitalization) is "English Only," a code phrase for "keep the brown people out of government." |
Most Americans will accept multiculturalism up to a point. If you want to come here and wear your voo-doo dress around in public and claim that it is part of your culture and religion then few would have a problem with this. But if your involved in dog fighting, or insist on wearing a veil over your face while you get your driver license picture and claim that this is part of your culture then tough luck. Go back to your culture then. If you want to learn English and then come to America, or learn it once you are here then we welcome you with open arms. And having one official language just makes everything much easer for everyone, especially the foreigners. It has nothing to with brown people. Oh it may with a fringe minority, but you can find a fringe minority in any group. Here where I work they have folks who come from a Spanish speaking back grounds, some who speak Vietnamese, some from Burma, some from Bosnia etc... etc.... So are we just supposed to operate a factory where people speak in over 5 different languages? Not practical, at all. Trying being a supervisor under those conditions. The operator on press 1 speaks this language, while the operator on press 2 speaks this language and the operator on press 3 speaks yet another language, so on and so forth. Everybody would just sit around and look at each other. Rather the company that I work for provides English studies to all employees free of charge. Now we have a factory where over 5 languages exists yet over 90% of the people can now communicate with each other using one common language, English. And that is how it works in the real world. I understand that in academia or in government the factory would have to operate with the employees speaking in over 5 different languages rather then one, but that is why very few things from academia or the government ever work in the real world. |
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