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Dave W.
Info Junkie

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Posted - 04/19/2010 : 21:08:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
To Dave and all other readers (except for Trudy),
I apologize for being immature and childish and throwing around Ad Hominems. There is no excuse for lowering the discourse down to childish taunts. My reason (meaning I don't have any justification and I am wrong for doing it) is that if Turdy is going to ignore simple questions and come here setting his own rules, but not adhering to them, then I'll treat him as he has earned. | I'm beyond caring what Rudolfo thinks, because he's clearly made up his mind to be nothing but prejudicially insulting. And I know the vast majority of our regular members can appreciate a good childish insult (please don't call them ad hominems unless you're talking about the logical fallacy).
My only concern would be for how the last couple of pages of this thread might look to someone who was truly interested in dealing with Holocaust deniers but stumbled in on any of the last few pages of this thread direct from Google. Our software doesn't force anyone to begin at page one, and certainly we can't force anyone to read the other five threads to see Rudoldo's poor behavior ramping up over time so that the newcomers understand just how well deserved the vitriol is. (This is one reason I restrained myself from making another joke about Rudolfo's diary: that it was odd that he would actually write down "fap fap fap.")
But then again, perhaps people who would allow their first impression of our site to be their only impression aren't the sort of critical thinkers we'd like to attract. There are plenty of other sites at which they can learn that "prima facie" doesn't mean "true," and then perhaps they'll come back. Heck, there are plenty of other pages here at which they can learn such skills, it might take a pretty odd set of keywords to just hit on these pages first.
Of course, I'd be perfectly happy to derail this whole thread with a discussion of the "tone" our members think our site should generally present to the world. It would be far more interesting than anything our current anti-Semite has to offer. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 03:47:30 [Permalink]
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If memory serves, and too often it doesn't these days, there is a cutoff at 16 pages, then the thread is locked and a new one started. Or are we not doing that any more?
I would be happy to kick off a new one. The title OP would be -- never mind. Rudolfo's ignoring me like a rat hoping that the snake will go away, and if the OP were mine, he might not come out and play. But never let it be said that I didn't make some small contribution even now:
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26024 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 04:54:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
If memory serves, and too often it doesn't these days, there is a cutoff at 16 pages, then the thread is locked and a new one started. Or are we not doing that any more? | It's done at staff discretion. The main concern with longer threads is that they tend to load more slowly as they get larger. With this thread, such annoyances may help it die faster. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 05:27:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by filthy
If memory serves, and too often it doesn't these days, there is a cutoff at 16 pages, then the thread is locked and a new one started. Or are we not doing that any more? | It's done at staff discretion. The main concern with longer threads is that they tend to load more slowly as they get larger. With this thread, such annoyances may help it die faster.
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Ah, I see. But good luck with that; Rudolfo's nothing if not tenacious. It's the one thing I admire about him.

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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Rudolfo
Banned

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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 06:31:19 [Permalink]
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The following is fiction, and any connection with real events and/or persons is purely coincidental ..
REPORT ON THE EVALUATION OF THE PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY AT BELLVUE, NY, SEVENTH FLOOR
by Dr. B. Rude
Back history - this report is issued pursuant to direction from the NY State Mental Health Board. Numerous complaints have been filed against the facility, and a previous report, undertaken by Dr. Dan was not completed in a timely manner, that report has been abandoned, and this will substitute for it.
Overview:
The director of the facility is the Dowager Dame Killjoy, and the chief psychiatrist is Dr. D. Whackamole.
Dr. Whackamole has received some measure of acclaim for his earllier successful treatment of two of the centers most difficult cases, patients Frizz and Farty, both suffering from severe infantile development arrest. Dr. Whackamole was able to effect successful toilet training for both patients at ages 19 and 23 respectively. Unfortunately he was unable to build on these early successes and now both patients are maintained on heavy doses of librium and haldol, in order to keep them from breaking furniture and trashing the facility.
Another difficult case is that of TomTom, who suffers from a bad case of compulsive disorder. Patient Tom, as he is called, only communicates by asking questions, and for the last 15 years has been demanding an answer to a single question which has been forgotten. He frequently becomes hostile when a satisfactory is not forthcoming. Dr. Whackamole has tried to get patient Tom to move on with his life, or to at least come up with a new question, but to no avail.
This brings us to one of the real problems of the center, Whackamole's degrees are bogus. In reality he was expelled in the 7th grade when he was unable to master the rules of grammar. To his credit, he is still trying, heroically I might add, to master the concepts, but progress has been slow. His degrees from high school on are from a storefront diploma mill in Brooklyn, and poor Whackamole, not having the funds even to pay for these inexpensive degrees, was forced to endure degradations I can't describe in his report in order to obtain these bogus degrees.
And perhaps the oddest case is that of Dowager Dame Killjoy. She inherited the directorship from her father, but has no interest in the day to day operation of the center. She spends most of her time in her office sipping from a flask of brandy. Occasionally she is seen wandering about the hallways, muttering something that no one has been able to decipher.
Summary - There is a remarkable unity of mind at the facility, shared by administration, staff, and patients. Even the occasional slip in the toilet training of Frizz and Farty are greeted with bonhomie. So, there is no need to close the facility.
However, there is concern that none of the people in the center will ever be able to function in the outside world. Therefore continued close monitoring is the recommended plan of action.
There is a rumor that the center has recently opened an internet account. This could provide a useful window into the center's activities.
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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 06:42:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo <snip> |
Where my answers? You still haven't given them. I'll repeat the first question I asked.
"For the reading impaired (ie, Rudolfo), one of the people there managed to smuggle a grenade with him. When he was unloaded he threw it. Subsequently, guards opened fire on the group that included the person throwing the grenade. What part of this sequence of events is impossible or even improbable?"
Because I went back and nowhere have you actually answered the question. You called the specific event into question without ever giving a reason and you said this was a "different way of reading the event". Neither of those arguments where ever substantiated by you. So, feel free to do so now.
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.' -Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll- |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 06:43:24 [Permalink]
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Coward |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 06:47:12 [Permalink]
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BTW, Why did you steal my lines?
Why don't you man up and answer some questions?
Do you feel that you've been given ample opportunity to voice your argument? To state your claim?
Does a claim require evidence? |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Robb
SFN Regular

USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 06:48:01 [Permalink]
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I think Rudolfo is done presenting any further arguments. He knows his arguments do not have merit. But hey I have enjoyed the show! |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
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Posted - 04/20/2010 : 07:05:43 [Permalink]
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While you're editing your story, Rudolfo, how about answering my questions?
And if you have already answered them, feel free to direct me to the place where you did so. You may also copy and paste the response. But as far as I can tell, you haven't answered them. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.' -Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll- |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 07:20:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo *crap*
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The time you spent writing that could have been better spent answering some simple questions.
Unless, of course, you're too much of a coward.
Did the concentration camps exist? Why were Jews placed in them?
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"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 07:21:20 [Permalink]
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Do you feel like you've been given enough opportunity to make and support your claims? |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 08:08:14 [Permalink]
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YES or NO: Did the concentration camps exist? If YES, what purpose did they serve?
What are you hoping to accomplish?
Why are AVOIDING answering questions? Especially since, if what you say is correct (which we know it is NOT), you could HUMILIATE us.
If I am begging you to EMBARRASS me, why are you too much of a coward to take me up on my challenge? |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Fripp
SFN Regular

USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 08:40:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo two of the centers most difficult cases, patients Frizz and Farty, both suffering from severe infantile development arrest. Dr. Whackamole was able to effect successful toilet training for both patients at ages 19 and 23 respectively.
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You know, I thought that I was being childish, but compared to this post, I look downright sophisticated.
What's next? "I know you are but what am I?" or "I'm rubber, you're glue..."?
Speaking of childish, are you still resorting to junior-high level "ignore the questions"?
If you've answered the questions, please link to them. Or at least cut and paste the answers. That should be easy enough since you claim that you've already answered them. |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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tomk80
SFN Regular

Netherlands
1278 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2010 : 08:48:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
Originally posted by Rudolfo two of the centers most difficult cases, patients Frizz and Farty, both suffering from severe infantile development arrest. Dr. Whackamole was able to effect successful toilet training for both patients at ages 19 and 23 respectively.
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You know, I thought that I was being childish, but compared to this post, I look downright sophisticated.
What's next? "I know you are but what am I?" or "I'm rubber, you're glue..."?
Speaking of childish, are you still resorting to junior-high level "ignore the questions"?
If you've answered the questions, please link to them. Or at least cut and paste the answers. That should be easy enough since you claim that you've already answered them.
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My guess is that his last post was just an elaborate flounce out. But we'll have to see. I'm actually surprised you've read past the first few words. I didn't see the need. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.' -Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll- |
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