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Fripp
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  12:19:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by podcat

There have been 220-240 posts made discussing this topic already. If there really was an effort made to "head for the door as quickly as possible", there would be one thread with ten posts, which would have been locked.



Yes, but that wouldn't serve his purposes, i.e. that he's outwitting us with his hard questions, and that (instead of admitting that he's right) we'd rather avoid debating his points. Ironically, he's guilty of the exact same thing that he's accusing Kil of doing. He's utterly incapable of answering questions, because he knows his stance is a house of cards.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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filthy
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  12:43:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At least he's not another foolish drive-by. Indeed, I'm all but convinced that he's a pseudoskeptic who, unable to leave well enough alone, has returned for seconds.

A couple of reasons for these thoughts:

A) How likely is it that we'd get no less than two holocaust denier idjits so close together when we've had exactly none in years?

And B) while a writer can change his words and phrases, very few can change their basic style.

While bored with Rudolfo's bullshit, I'm wondering where he will go with it. Some of these dingbats have a total mentdown, and that's always fun to watch.




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Fripp
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  13:16:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

At least he's not another foolish drive-by. Indeed, I'm all but convinced that he's a pseudoskeptic who, unable to leave well enough alone, has returned for seconds.




Yeah, I think I said this when he first showed up. I agree that it was WAAYYYYY too coincidental that he appeared a week after Dan was here. He never confirmed nor denied that he was a sock of dantheman. In fact, he avoided the question altogether (surprise, surprise). In my opinion, that's a tacit acknowledgement.

What surprises me is that every one of these guys bring NOTHING to the table. It is so easy to tear apart their arguments.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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podcat
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  15:57:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But....but....that's not skeptical! You're all supposed to be skeptical and accept my arguments completely! :P

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-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
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Fripp
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  16:44:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by podcat

But....but....that's not skeptical! You're all supposed to be skeptical and accept my arguments completely! :P


Exaaaactly. Sadly, that's his viewpoint for real.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Rudolfo
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  17:06:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rudolfo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by podcat

There have been 220-240 posts made discussing this topic already.



No, there have been no posts other than mine that address the topic of thread, which is supposed to be the holocaust conspiracy. Not one of the 'skeptics' even acknowledged the OP. Instead there have been 200+ posts of evasion, idiocy, insult, etc., all a frantic attempt by the 'skeptics' to avoid discussing the holocaust conspiracy in a rational way. Kil, like the rest of you, did not even pretend to address the OP.

And you continue with the stupidity and insults. Amazing to me. It is as if you are without shame.
Edited by - Rudolfo on 04/03/2010 17:08:22
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astropin
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  17:20:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rudolfo

Originally posted by podcat

There have been 220-240 posts made discussing this topic already.



No, there have been no posts other than mine that address the topic of thread, which is supposed to be the holocaust conspiracy. Not one of the 'skeptics' even acknowledged the OP. Instead there have been 200+ posts of evasion, idiocy, insult, etc., all a frantic attempt by the 'skeptics' to avoid discussing the holocaust conspiracy in a rational way. Kil, like the rest of you, did not even pretend to address the OP.

And you continue with the stupidity and insults. Amazing to me. It is as if you are without shame.



Now That's Funny!

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

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filthy
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  17:31:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rudolfo

Originally posted by podcat

There have been 220-240 posts made discussing this topic already.



No, there have been no posts other than mine that address the topic of thread, which is supposed to be the holocaust conspiracy. Not one of the 'skeptics' even acknowledged the OP. Instead there have been 200+ posts of evasion, idiocy, insult, etc., all a frantic attempt by the 'skeptics' to avoid discussing the holocaust conspiracy in a rational way. Kil, like the rest of you, did not even pretend to address the OP.

And you continue with the stupidity and insults. Amazing to me. It is as if you are without shame.
Your arguments, such as they are, you ignorant git, were all addressed in the first imbecilic thread you opened -- not to mention the ones here: Link All we got out of it was hand-waving, juvenile insults and no little amusement at your pompous disregard for history.

By the way, when are you and dan going to learn to use the quote feature and how to hot link? Or is that, while not rocket science, still too much for you?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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and Crypto-Communist!

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Fripp
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  17:41:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rudolfo
Instead there have been 200+ posts of evasion, idiocy, insult, etc., all a frantic attempt by the 'skeptics' to avoid discussing the holocaust conspiracy in a rational way.


Evasion similar to the way you pretend that you didn't see my questions? Is this your "I know you are, but what am I?" debate tactic?



And you continue with the stupidity and insults. Amazing to me. It is as if you are without shame.


(phone ringing) Hello Pot? This is Kettle. You're black.

Congratulations. In one sentence, you call us stupid then complain about insults. You truly are incredible (rolls eyes)

Just curious: does a claim require evidence?

Why are we supposed to be skeptical of the Holocaust but we can't be skeptical of you?

Did the concentration camps exist? If so, what were their purpose and why were the Nazis putting the Jews in them.

Simple questions. You're so wise, they should be simple enough to answer.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  18:42:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp

Why are we supposed to be skeptical of the Holocaust but we can't be skeptical of you?
More importantly, why aren't we supposed to be skeptical of Rudolfo's transparently illogical arguments?

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podcat
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Posted - 04/03/2010 :  18:47:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I was counting the two threads Rudolfo was involved with and not counting the at least one thread dantheman started. Those threads posed a theory which the author thought had merit, then facts were posted that showed the theory had no merit. It is perfectly acceptable to ridicule an idea which is proven to have no merit. If you wanted to give a straight answer to the questions asked by the regulars here, you would. Otherwise, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

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Rudolfo
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  05:57:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rudolfo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by podcat

Actually, I was counting the two threads Rudolfo was involved with and not counting the at least one thread dantheman started. Those threads posed a theory which the author thought had merit, then facts were posted that showed the theory had no merit.


Dantheman is a real person. He has a web site where he offers a large monetary reward for anyone who can produce evidence of a mass grave containing holocaust victims. There are NO excavated mass graves of holocaust victims. Want to see what a real mass grave looks like ...



This is a mass grave of Soviet victims at Vinnitsa, Ukraine, excavated by the Nazis during WW II. The Nazi excavated this real mass grave and identified many of the victims. Get this, the holocaust narrative claims that while, literally at the same time, the Nazis, and an invited team of international experts, were excavating Vinnitsa, they were digging up the bodies in a mass grave at Babi Yar and burning them, a mere 100km away. Of course, there is not a single mass grave at Babi Yar. ALL traces of that alleged massacre have disappeared, save the lies.

And, the Nazis excavated a real mass grave of Soviet victims at Katyn. At Nuremberg it was proved that the real massacre at Katyn was commited by the Nazis. Another example of the degenerate farce at Nuremberg.

Originally posted by podcat

It is perfectly acceptable to ridicule an idea which is proven to have no merit.


Not one 'skeptic' has given any indication that they have read the OP, much less shown it to have no merit.

Originally posted by podcat

If you wanted to give a straight answer to the questions asked by the regulars here, you would.


Hey, I'm still waiting for answers to my questions - what are the rules of logic that skeptics use?, what is the name of one person who died in a gas chamber at Auschwitz?, where is one mass grave of holocaust victims?, what is the name of one credible Jewish holocaust witness? One would think that with the whole academic world behind you, you would be able to answer at least one of these questions.
Edited by - Rudolfo on 04/04/2010 06:37:41
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  07:47:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rudolfo

Dantheman is a real person. He has a web site where he offers a large monetary reward for anyone who can produce evidence of a mass grave containing holocaust victims. There are NO excavated mass graves of holocaust victims.
As has already been explained.
Want to see what a real mass grave looks like ...

http://www.davidduke.com/images/The-Genocide-at-Vinnitsa.jpg

This is a mass grave of Soviet victims at Vinnitsa, Ukraine, excavated by the Nazis during WW II.
Where is the proof for these statements?
The Nazi excavated this real mass grave and identified many of the victims. Get this, the holocaust narrative claims that while, literally at the same time, the Nazis, and an invited team of international experts, were excavating Vinnitsa, they were digging up the bodies in a mass grave at Babi Yar and burning them, a mere 100km away.
And why is this surprising at all? The Nazis were trying to hide their own crimes, while exposing the crimes of Stalin. Of course, David Duke claims, without evidence, that Stalin's thugs were Jews. But even if that were true, it's irrelevant to the Holocaust. Such an argument assumes that the victims of one crime cannot have perpetrated another, which is idiotic.
Of course, there is not a single mass grave at Babi Yar. ALL traces of that alleged massacre have disappeared, save the lies.
Yes, the Nazi lies.
And, the Nazis excavated a real mass grave of Soviet victims at Katyn. At Nuremberg it was proved that the real massacre at Katyn was commited by the Nazis. Another example of the degenerate farce at Nuremberg.
Got any proof of that?
Not one 'skeptic' has given any indication that they have read the OP, much less shown it to have no merit.
How can an argument that begins with a false premise have merit?
what is the name of one person who died in a gas chamber at Auschwitz?
What's the name of one person who died at the hands of the Jews at Vinnitsa?
One would think that with the whole academic world behind you, you would be able to answer at least one of these questions.
Just because you ignore the answers doesn't mean they don't exist.

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filthy
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  08:05:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lessee, David Duke..... I remember who he is! Since when does some Klan scumbag have any credibility on this topic at all?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Rudolfo
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Posted - 04/04/2010 :  08:51:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rudolfo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[What's the name of one person who died at the hands of the Jews at Vinnitsa?]

Well, the massacre was committed by the NVKD. The mass grave was excavated, not only by the Nazis, but also by an invited team of international experts, and many of the bodies identified. Thus, many of the names are known, and the proof is the body in the grave. It's a simple matter when the massacre is real. Contrast to this to the holocaust, where there is not a single excavated mass grave, and no one can name a SINGLE gas chamber victim with proof.

From the article ...

"Including the autopsies already performed by Ukrainian medical personnel in Vinnitsa, 1,670 of the corpses were examined in detail. The identities of 679 of them were established either through documents found in their clothes or through recognition by relatives, who flocked to Vinnitsa from the surrounding countryside when they heard that the graves had been uncovered."

Googling this, I see that half the links attribute the massacre to the Einsatzgruppen and claim the victims were Jews. The degenerate holocaust lies never stop.

[Just because you ignore the answers doesn't mean they don't exist.]

Oh come on, try to answer just one - what are the rules of logic that skeptics use?, what is the name of one person who died in a gas chamber at Auschwitz?, where is one mass grave of holocaust victims?, what is the name of one credible Jewish holocaust witness? One would think that with the whole academic world behind you, you would be able to answer at least one of these questions.
Edited by - Rudolfo on 04/04/2010 09:09:13
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