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Dave W.
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 Posted - 04/05/2010 : 09:56:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
I feel that everyone has contradictions in their lives, their philosophies. |
When I find I'm being hypocritical, I either stop asking others to do that which I won't do, or I start doing what I've previously asked others to do. Whichever way ends the hypocrisy and best matches whatever my goals are at the time.| Dave, nice catch on the Mein Kampf quote. |
Google is my friend.| This speaks volumes about Rudy, specifically that he is a neo-Nazi to begin with, thus only 'sees' "facts" that support his pre-conceived notions. |
The thing which I think speaks loudest is that Rudolfo is identifying with Hitler. He doesn't just adore Hitler, Rudolfo is actually putting himself in Hitler's proverbial shoes. I wonder if Rudolfo thinks that he "is doing the Lord's work" by fighting against the Jews (a quote which ends the chapter - the second - that Rudolfo's quote is from). |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 11:12:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Fripp
I feel that everyone has contradictions in their lives, their philosophies. |
When I find I'm being hypocritical, I either stop asking others to do that which I won't do, or I start doing what I've previously asked others to do. Whichever way ends the hypocrisy and best matches whatever my goals are at the time.| Dave, nice catch on the Mein Kampf quote. |
Google is my friend.| This speaks volumes about Rudy, specifically that he is a neo-Nazi to begin with, thus only 'sees' "facts" that support his pre-conceived notions. |
The thing which I think speaks loudest is that Rudolfo is identifying with Hitler. He doesn't just adore Hitler, Rudolfo is actually putting himself in Hitler's proverbial shoes. I wonder if Rudolfo thinks that he "is doing the Lord's work" by fighting against the Jews (a quote which ends the chapter - the second - that Rudolfo's quote is from).
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Interesting thought, Dave, Hitler & all. So, just for the hell of it, let's take from the top and find out just who that mon-orchid moonbat actually was and what he became.
Adolf Hitler is Born
At 6:30 p.m. on the evening of April 20, 1889, he was born in the small Austrian village of Braunau Am Inn just across the border from German Bavaria.
Adolf Hitler would one day lead a movement that placed supreme importance on a person's family tree even making it a matter of life and death. However, his own family tree was quite mixed up and would be a lifelong source of embarrassment and concern to him.
His father, Alois, was born in 1837. He was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber and her unknown mate, which may have been someone from the neighborhood or a poor millworker named Johann Georg Hiedler. It is also remotely possible Adolf Hitler's grandfather was Jewish.
Maria Schicklgruber was said to have been employed as a cook in the household of a wealthy Jewish family named Frankenberger. There is some speculation their 19-year-old son got her pregnant and regularly sent her money after the birth of Alois.
Adolf Hitler would never know for sure just who his grandfather was.
He did know that when his father Alois was about five years old, Maria Schicklgruber married Johann Georg Hiedler. The marriage lasted five years until her death of natural causes, at which time Alois went to live on a small farm with his uncle.
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Those interested, do read on. Rudholo and other history haters need not bother -- it reqires a a fairly long attention span.
I really don't know if Hitler was shy a gonad or not. I've read a little on it and there seems to be small consensus. The British had a rousing drinking song about it, though.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 11:29:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Rudolfo
[quote]My standard reply to obviously stupid statements is an uncannily accurate quote that I saw somewhere, can't recall where, it is ...
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid." |
That's Adolph Hitler, from Mein Kampf, talking about Marxist Jews. |
Mein Kampf, eh? Great find, indeed, Dave!
So Rudi can remember that long quotation, which he "saw somewhere, can't recall where"? What an amazing ability of textual recall, combined with strategic forgetfulness! We're supposed to believe this crap? Or is Rudi just trying to infuriate us with this Hitler ass-licking act?
One thing you can take to the bank as a given: There are very few Holocaust deniers who are not open or covert Nazis.
I believe Rufolfo has just un-stealthed himself to reveal a stinking Nazi turd. |
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Rudolfo
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 11:39:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Rudolfo
[quote]My standard reply to obviously stupid statements is an uncannily accurate quote that I saw somewhere, can't recall where, it is ...
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid." |
That's Adolph Hitler, from Mein Kampf, talking about Marxist Jews. |
Mein Kampf, eh? Great find, indeed, Dave!
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Really, great find, Dave. The 'skeptics' on this board are like an 8-cylinder engine, with only one cylinder firing  . |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 04/05/2010 : 11:48:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Rudolfo
[quote]My standard reply to obviously stupid statements is an uncannily accurate quote that I saw somewhere, can't recall where, it is ...
"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid." |
That's Adolph Hitler, from Mein Kampf, talking about Marxist Jews. |
Mein Kampf, eh? Great find, indeed, Dave!
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Really, great find, Dave. The 'skeptics' on this board are like an 8-cylinder engine, with only one cylinder firing .
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Gosh Rudolfo, even you must admit, with regard to this particular debate, your quoting Hitler is really very funny! |
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Fripp
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 12:19:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
Really, great find, Dave. The 'skeptics' on this board are like an 8-cylinder engine, with only one cylinder firing .
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Really? How so? You admitted yourself that you didn't remember where the quote came from, Dave found the source and it turns out that (if you are being truthful about not remembering where you read it) it's Mein Kampf. How coincidental that you disbelieve the Holocaust, and you remember a quote from hitler, a quote that must've made a impression on you. This indicates that you read Mein Kampf, it affected you enough to make an indelible impression, and that (considering what we know about you) you agree or sympathize with Hitler. You can try to handwave this away or ignore it, but the more you avoid answering this and my other questions, the more it becomes clear that your claim is feeble.
What exactly is your goal here? What are you hoping to accomplish? Is that really all that hard of a question to answer? If so, why?
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 12:22:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
Really, great find, Dave. The 'skeptics' on this board are like an 8-cylinder engine, with only one cylinder firing . |
Do you, Rudolfo, think you're doing the Lord's work in fighting against the Jews?
Oh, and you still haven't provided the name of any victim at Vinnitsa. I'm going to assume that you're running away from that challenge, like you've run away from all the others. |
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Fripp
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 12:47:21 [Permalink]
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I honestly have no idea why he's wussing out of answering a few, very simple questions. I have virtually no knowledge about the concentration camps other than what I learned from TV, school, the links you guys have provided. So if he had even just a few (albeit slanted) facts, he could easily "slam" me, as I doubt that I would spend the time to research his info. The only thing I can figure is he knows his stance is weak, thus the fixation on arguing over grainy, trivial B&W photos and debating if a zoo is a children's zoo or not.
He can't even answer what his goal is. His motivation is something that can't be debated and he still cowers from answering.
Pathetic.
Dave, who is this Gerdes character and how did you find out that he was dantheman? |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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26022 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2010 : 18:27:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
Dave, who is this Gerdes character and how did you find out that he was dantheman? |
Well, over in dantheman's thread, HalfMooner voiced his suspicions after seeing a fisking (elsewhere) of Greg Gerdes' website, The National Association of Forensic Historians (nafcash.com). If nothing else, dantheman was clearing doing copy-and-paste jobs from nafcash.com to his SFN thread.
And then on Easter, Rudolfo posted the following:Dantheman is a real person. He has a web site where he offers a large monetary reward for anyone who can produce evidence of a mass grave containing holocaust victims. Well, that describes nafcash.com to a T. And since Greg Gerdes appears (to me at least) to be the only public member of nafcash.com, I'd say the identification is pretty likely.
I'm guessing that Rudolfo and dantheman are giggling about how they're making fools of us in their circle jerks emails.
Edited to add that here is an example of Greg Gerdes in action, under his own name, and the resemblance of the abuse he's dishing out - if not the copy-and-pasting - to dantheman's is astounding. |
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Rudolfo
Banned
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 06:17:21 [Permalink]
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The 'Skeptics' Rules of Logic
Kil's discussion of the 'skeptics' rules of logic hasn't materialized. So, I googled them up.... - I found the following at www.sketpicsrules.com, check them out 
Rule 1 - Choose Your Battles
The first rule is an application of the same rule from the kung fu masters. For 'skeptics', the interpretation of the rule is that an opponent's OP, and any argument an opponent makes, is merely a provocation to be ignored altogether. It is based on false premises anyhow 99% of the time, as for the 1%, well, who'll notice? By ignoring opponents' claims, the field is cleared for the skeptics to employ their best weapons from the get go, character attack, evasion, ridicule, scatology, and the like.
Rule 2 - Don't be Judgmental
A wily opponent may try to lure a 'skeptic' into compromising value judgments. These are to be spurned as the traps they are. Questions of good vs. evil, true vs. false, real vs. fake, and black vs. white represent false dichotomies to a trained mind, and are to be avoided at all costs. These questions don't need to trouble the 'skeptic' for even an instant.
Rule 3 - The Grand Principle
The two rules above are sufficient to master any opponent. Yet, on rare occasion the 'skeptic' may want to comment on something other than the opponent's character or inclinations. Then the Grand Principle is employed: first the 'skeptic' realizes his own limitations, that is, the 'skeptic' realizes that he doesn't know jack shit, has no inclination or ability to learn, which is just as well as he couldn't find his own ass with both hands on a clear day at high noon. That accorded, the 'skeptic' relies on the grand principle, that is the infallible consensus of experts, for the rare departure from ad hominem attack.
I certainly want to commend the 'skeptics' on this forum for their strict adherence to these rules. Now I see the strength of the 'skeptics' position. Armed with these principles, they are immune to any attack, and are bound to prevail in any contest, at least in their own minds. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 06:55:21 [Permalink]
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All very interesting, but I fail to see what it has to do with your Holocaust conspiracy blather.
Here's another that you might find of interest, as you've committed many of them.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Fripp
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 07:07:08 [Permalink]
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Aside from misspelling "skeptic" in the website name, the site doesn't exist under either spelling.
So you can't see the hypocrisy in the rules above? That you are guilty of the same offenses?
I didn't see anything about cowering from answering simple questions. Where did you learn that? Must be pathetic not to be able to even defend your own position. |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 07:32:08 [Permalink]
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Yup, Rudolfo has left all rational argument behind, and has resorted to doing nothing but insulting us by the age-old method of making shit up.
And supposedly we are the ones who are incapable of civilized debate. He's just one massive ball of psychological projection. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Fripp
SFN Regular
USA
727 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 07:58:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rudolfo
Kil's discussion of the 'skeptics' rules of logic hasn't materialized. So, I googled them up.... - I found the following at www.sketpicsrules.com, check them out
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Just for shits and giggles, i tried the above site again, with both spellings. Nada.
If you think you're tweaking us for a chuckle, it's A) pretty lame, and B) just a diversion from addressing the facts at hand. 
It took you more time to make up and write up that post than to actually engage in a factual dialogue to defend your assertions. On top of being a coward, you also have mental problems |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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26022 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2010 : 08:22:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Fripp
Just for shits and giggles, i tried the above site again, with both spellings. Nada. |
I Googled some of the phrases. Also nada. |
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The holocaust conspiracy
