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dglas
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 04/17/2010 : 15:28:11 [Permalink]
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"To be fair, in a sense we can't blame the Vatican for their bad press."
Sure we can. it was their choice to harbour and protect criminals. The impossible situation is one of their own creation. |
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The Presupposition of Intrinsic Evil
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 04/17/2010 : 15:40:19 [Permalink]
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Predictable, really.
Mexico bishop says porn, tv to blame for priest abuse
Miguel Angel Gutierrez and Cyntia Barrera Diaz
MEXICO CITY
Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:10pm EDTMEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A prominent Roman Catholic bishop in Mexico blamed eroticism on television and Internet pornography for child abuse by priests, in the latest incendiary comments on sex scandals in the church.
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Priests and politicians, and talking heads have been tossing that hoary, old red herring about for as long as there has been electronic transfer of data. I think that we can expect more in the same vein soon.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 04/17/2010 : 16:56:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by dglas
"To be fair, in a sense we can't blame the Vatican for their bad press."
Sure we can. it was their choice to harbour and protect criminals. The impossible situation is one of their own creation.
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Oh, sure, of course. I meant, and should have written, "bad press spin control." I was trying to emphasize the fact that the Vatican has put itself in a situation where brilliant spin control can't help it, and could even hurt it further. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
| Edited by - HalfMooner on 04/17/2010 17:03:29 |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2010 : 17:00:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Predictable, really.
Mexico bishop says porn, tv to blame for priest abuse
Miguel Angel Gutierrez and Cyntia Barrera Diaz
MEXICO CITY
Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:10pm EDTMEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A prominent Roman Catholic bishop in Mexico blamed eroticism on television and Internet pornography for child abuse by priests, in the latest incendiary comments on sex scandals in the church.
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Priests and politicians, and talking heads have been tossing that hoary, old red herring about for as long as there has been electronic transfer of data. I think that we can expect more in the same vein soon.
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The Vatican really has to cut the cable TV and porn budget for its priests.
So now it's porn, TV, pubescent titillators, Jews, seculars, atheists, gays and who/what else being blamed? It is almost to laugh. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2010 : 19:33:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Same old, same old, really. Tyrannical communistic and fascist regimes killed millions because of atheism. What a crock. |
I'm starting to enjoy that argument, almost as much as the one that atheists think they know everything.
Maybe the "ape-descended Dawkins" comment is a sign of progress, however. =) |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2010 : 05:53:00 [Permalink]
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Hah! Jason Brown at The Catholic Blame Game presents a seris of scapegoats that the Catholic Church has so far used to further muddy waters stirred up by their child-raping priests and pedophile-protecting prelates. Hat tip to Evolving Thoughts:Gays
The Jews
Pornography
Television
The Internet
Pope John Paul II
Victims of child rape |
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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sailingsoul
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 07:02:42 [Permalink]
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| So many excuses, so many points of blame. It's a time worn defense of the guilty, throw out red a herring. When that doesn't work throw another. Repeat until successful. Denial is not possible, the evidence of the abuse and cover up is over whelming. This started in the 80's in the US. Then more recently Ireland, now across Europe (germany, spain, Italy). I don't think this has peaked yet. Summertime is quickly approaching Europe. The voices of outrage will move from indoors, to the streets. People socialize in greater numbers with the warmer weather. I expect this to continue at least if not grow, as oppose to diminish, over the next 6 months. Every time anyone in the church opens their mouth, gasoline come out. SS |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/18/2010 : 07:14:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Predictable, really.
Mexico bishop says porn, tv to blame for priest abuse
Miguel Angel Gutierrez and Cyntia Barrera Diaz
MEXICO CITY
Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:10pm EDTMEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A prominent Roman Catholic bishop in Mexico blamed eroticism on television and Internet pornography for child abuse by priests, in the latest incendiary comments on sex scandals in the church.
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Priests and politicians, and talking heads have been tossing that hoary, old red herring about for as long as there has been electronic transfer of data. I think that we can expect more in the same vein soon.
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Whatever happened to that God-given (and the thing that ONLY God can provide) property free will? Are catholic priests totally lacking in this department? |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2010 : 07:26:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Originally posted by filthy
Predictable, really.
Mexico bishop says porn, tv to blame for priest abuse
Miguel Angel Gutierrez and Cyntia Barrera Diaz
MEXICO CITY
Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:10pm EDTMEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A prominent Roman Catholic bishop in Mexico blamed eroticism on television and Internet pornography for child abuse by priests, in the latest incendiary comments on sex scandals in the church.
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Priests and politicians, and talking heads have been tossing that hoary, old red herring about for as long as there has been electronic transfer of data. I think that we can expect more in the same vein soon.
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Whatever happened to that God-given (and the thing that ONLY God can provide) property free will? Are catholic priests totally lacking in this department?
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Unfortunately, no. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dave W.
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 20:57:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Hah! Jason Brown at The Catholic Blame Game presents a seris of scapegoats that the Catholic Church has so far used to further muddy waters stirred up by their child-raping priests and pedophile-protecting prelates. Hat tip to Evolving Thoughts:Gays
The Jews
Pornography
Television
The Internet
Pope John Paul II
Victims of child rape |
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It seems Coren has taken the "blame the Gays". route. (I know I pointed this out before, but what the hell, eh?)
The abused – mostly adolescent boys of around 12 and 13 – are the ultimate victims.
The perpetrators are generally homosexual men indulging in catamite perversion – actually not really pedophilia at all. |
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Yeah, all it takes is a few years and it's a totally different thing eh?
For fuck's sake: It's still priests buggering young boys!
And of course, as I said once before, he doesn't understand the Tu Quoque fallacy:
| By the way, if you want genuine systemic abuse I recommend reading the details of public education scandals in Canada and the United States. I’m too busy to give all of the arguments here but only a fool or a bigot thinks this is a specifically Catholic problem. |
I've said before in various places on that blog that at least those other cases are generally dealt with by the law once publicly exposed. Unlike with his church, whose leaders try to cover it up. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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The Pope should resign!
