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Hawks
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Canada
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 Posted - 04/02/2010 : 16:09:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
Originally posted by Hawks
Whether or not the effects of playing video games are any different from wathing movies and reading books is an empirical question. Is there any research pointing either way?
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Even if it did, should it matter? Making rules about children buying games is one thing, but why should an adult recognize the right of government to censor entertainment? How this could not logically extend to other forms of entertainment, I have no idea. The precedent would assuredly be harmful to the prospect of liberty in the future.
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IF it was shown that, for example, playing violent video games made people 50 times more likely to commit violent crimes, then I think that the government certainly has the right and the responsibility to ban them. |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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dglas
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 17:02:17 [Permalink]
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I spent my younger years as a B-Movie fanatic. Grisly stuff. I once wondered if it had desensitized me to violence.
Then I saw Joe Theisman's career ending compound fracture.
All doubts were dispelled. I knew the difference between fantasy and reality.
The real effect of censoring "objectionable" material is that it never permits people to learn the critical skills to handle and evaluate material. |
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The Presupposition of Intrinsic Evil
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 17:10:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Originally posted by Machi4velli
Originally posted by Hawks
Whether or not the effects of playing video games are any different from wathing movies and reading books is an empirical question. Is there any research pointing either way?
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Even if it did, should it matter? Making rules about children buying games is one thing, but why should an adult recognize the right of government to censor entertainment? How this could not logically extend to other forms of entertainment, I have no idea. The precedent would assuredly be harmful to the prospect of liberty in the future.
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IF it was shown that, for example, playing violent video games made people 50 times more likely to commit violent crimes, then I think that the government certainly has the right and the responsibility to ban them.
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Well, it's definitely not going to be 50 times as likely given the amount of people who play the games (Modern Warfare 2 alone claims 25 million unique players), something that dramatic would certainly show up in violent crime statistics. How about 3 times more likely to commit violent crimes (if gaming could even be isolated in a study)? |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 17:30:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
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Aw, you're missing out, filthy. Fun awaits in a variety of gaming styles. Ja! 
Video gaming is one of my hobbies. I love it. From simulations, to first-person mulitplayer shoot-outs, to single-player turn-based careful-planning strategies. Oooooh, ja! 
Back to the subject of banning certain video games, to put it mildly, "fuck that totalitarian shit!" 
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 20:23:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
Well, it's definitely not going to be 50 times as likely given the amount of people who play the games (Modern Warfare 2 alone claims 25 million unique players), something that dramatic would certainly show up in violent crime statistics. How about 3 times more likely to commit violent crimes (if gaming could even be isolated in a study)?
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I don't know where such a line should be drawn. I was just objecting to you, in effect, stating that one should not be drawn at all. |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2010 : 00:38:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
I don't know where such a line should be drawn. I was just objecting to you, in effect, stating that one should not be drawn at all.
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Okay, if it were a huge difference, maybe -- sounds analogous to the argument to ban addictive drugs (and monitor their medical counterparts with prescriptions).
Although if people could become so mindlessly impressionable on a large scale, I will have probably ceased caring what happens... |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus |
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Swiss Government to Ban Violent Video Games
