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Officiant
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 09/10/2011 : 18:46:25 [Permalink]
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| Here's a question for all you agnostic pinheads. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? A priest told me the answer to this one. |
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 19:04:13 [Permalink]
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Officiant, in all seriousness, how often do you pray to yourself?
And, does it start something like this....
Me Officiant in earth,
hallowed be my name.....
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"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."
"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
 Posted - 09/10/2011 : 19:11:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Agnosticism is antithetical to science... |
Sagan would say that agnosticism is science, wouldn't he? Why is Sagan wrong and Stenger right? Why should we care about how Stenger defines an agnostic when we don't fit that description? Do you think that just because Stenger uses a word that we use, that we necessarily agree with his definition?from Madalyn O'Hair.
"Agnostic followers have always been allies of the church... |
Well, see, Officiant, O'Hair was wrong right there, wasn't she? You certainly cannot provide any evidence that I'm an ally of any church, can you? What the fuck is an "agnostic follower," anyway?| ...The false notion that the world is unknowable undermines science... |
Where was O'Hair's evidence to support her claims? Why won't you support your claims with evidence? Stenger appears to be stupefied by religious people who won't back up their claims with evidence, so I imagine he would be dumbfounded by you, as well, right? You've done nothing but point to your own version of the Holy Books - even citing chapter and verse - in defense of your claims, haven't you?
Why are you so much of a coward that you won't answer most of the questions put to you? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 19:16:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Here's a question for all you agnostic pinheads. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? |
Since angels don't exist, the question is nonsensical, isn't it?| A priest told me the answer to this one. |
Was that before or after he raped you? Is that why you're such a good friend of Catholicism that you spread their information around willingly, but then turn around and call them an enemy of civilization? Are you screwed up because a priest screwed you up? |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 19:23:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Dear H. Humbert, You are not paying attention. I went back to page 1 and 2 where I already told you why agnostics are
like a cancer to the secular humanist cause.
Agnosticism is antithetical to science and is the enemy of civilization. It only serves to protect the supernatural.
from Madalyn O'Hair.
"Agnostic followers have always been allies of the church. The false notion that the world is unknowable undermines science and reinforces theology. It inclines man to faith and induces humankind to trust religious doctrines.
The church does not anathematize the agnostic and even the Roman Catholic Church will accept the agnostic in its fold.
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So in your view agnosticism is actually worse than theism?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 21:31:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
So in your view agnosticism is actually worse than theism? |
I'm going to predict that Officiant will say that theists aren't cowards like agnostics. If he answers the question at all. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 23:40:03 [Permalink]
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Madalyn O'Hair's definition of atheism is precisely the same as our definition of agnostic/atheism. After learning that, a sane person would reconsider what it means to be agnostic in the context that we are using it. Dawkin's too. Dave and Dawkins are both strong 6's, as am I, which means Dawkins from our point of view is an agnostic/atheist. Only we don't get out knickers in a bind because he doesn't identify that way.
Again, a sane person would look at that and conclude that his strawman version of agnosticism is not correct, at least in the way that we are using it. But not Officiant.
Here's how crazy he is. I bet if I substituted one word from Sagan's definition, which is the one that we employ, he would have no objection.
"My view is that if there is no evidence for it, then forget about it. An atheist is somebody who doesn't believe in something until there is evidence for it, so I'm an atheist." – Carl Sagan
That's a statement that Officiant would agree with, even though it says precisely the same thing that we're saying even with the word substitution. O'hair said pretty much the same thing.
But Officiant is either too fucking dumb to sort that out, or too much of a bigot. Or maybe it's because he's in too deep now and being the coward that he is, he will not admit his mistake, which is that he doesn't know everything about agnosticism. Remember his refusal to consider the wiki source for agnostic/atheist? That's because he's a coward. He can't face being corrected. He can't question his own assumptions. He can't question them because he's a coward. It's as simple as that. He really is a faith based atheist, and a god damned ignorant one at that. It's willful ignorance because he's too much of a coward to back down. He's exactly the same as a fundamentalist theist. Again, he's the flip side of the same coin.
By the way, it was Officient who was drummed out of a humanist organization. And I can see why. He says they were agnostics, but that's probably a lie. Most humanist organizations are mostly made up of atheists. But calling them agnostic is his way of taking the blame off of himself. If he was as rational with them as he has been with us, than they kicked him out because he's freaking crazy. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9688 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 02:33:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Dear Dr, Mabuse, Google Victor Stenger and find out just how dumb and ignorant you are. The man is a giant.
You are an oblivious worm who needs to do some basic research on the subject before bothering us further
with your ill-informed opinions.
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More insults.
That really seems the core of your arguments, and you lost the discussion 28 pages ago.
You really are a one trick pony, Officiant. Boring. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Officiant
Skeptic Friend
166 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 11:05:30 [Permalink]
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Not one of you flaky wish-washy brain-dead agnostics solved the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The answer is an infinite number of angels can dance on the head of a pin.
My queen wants to go for a hike in the wood.
More later my lovelies. |
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Hal
Skeptic Friend
USA
302 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 11:40:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Not one of you flaky wish-washy brain-dead agnostics solved the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The answer is an infinite number of angels can dance on the head of a pin.
My queen wants to go for a hike in the wood.
More later my lovelies.
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Gee, thanks for jumping in with the answer before I've had a chance to finish counting!
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 11:50:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hal
Originally posted by Officiant
Not one of you flaky wish-washy brain-dead agnostics solved the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The answer is an infinite number of angels can dance on the head of a pin.
My queen wants to go for a hike in the wood.
More later my lovelies.
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Gee, thanks for jumping in with the answer before I've had a chance to finish counting!
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 15:53:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
The answer is an infinite number of angels can dance on the head of a pin. |
You're an atheist who believes in angels? Where is your evidence that angels exist? |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 21:48:26 [Permalink]
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 22:22:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Officiant
Not one of you flaky wish-washy brain-dead agnostics solved the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The answer is an infinite number of angels can dance on the head of a pin.
My queen wants to go for a hike in the wood.
More later my lovelies.
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Mama Officiant say the agnostics is from de debbil.
(See The Waterboy for sarcasm.)
It is unfourtunate that Officiant is so devoid of honor and of logic that he steadfastly clings to the misunderstood words of his intelectual idols that he even gives them functional divinity.
You will note that Officiant has nothing but scorn for anyone who dare challenge his delusion that the texts do not say in context what he wants them to say.
Instead of actually dealing with the subjects being discussed, he makes repeated citing of his atheist Gods and must put down the blasphemers.
Officiant. Get professional help.
We all here can see the very valid reason that the Canadian Humanists declined to continue your membership. For me, at least, that action earns my respect. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 06:22:29 [Permalink]
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Val wrote: | We all here can see the very valid reason that the Canadian Humanists declined to continue your membership. For me, at least, that action earns my respect. |
I've encountered a handful of non-skeptic atheists in my life, but so far Officiant takes the cake. Rather sad to see just how crazy crazy can get. |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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