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 Posted - 10/13/2011 : 05:49:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Why is there anyone called Klaatu that you know of?
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Because the classic 1950's Science Fiction movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" was popular. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 06:24:20 [Permalink]
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| I'm sure listeniing to te interview will not suddenly mean that you lose your critica thinking sills. Anyway, likeI said its Radu tthat maks the claims, he orignally wrote the books as hown here: Its just the way that both Peter Moon and David Anderson someho come innto this when PeterMoon translated the books that sem to sow more validity iinto it all. Remember befre this it was Radu who wrote he books by himself. There was no mention fromwhat I understan of Moon or Anderson until Mon started translatng them for a 2009 release and Anderson invited him to Atlantykron. |
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 06:43:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I'm sure listeniing to te interview will not suddenly mean that you lose your critica thinking sills. Anyway, likeI said its Radu tthat maks the claims, he orignally wrote the books as hown here: Its just the way that both Peter Moon and David Anderson someho come innto this when PeterMoon translated the books that sem to sow more validity iinto it all. Remember befre this it was Radu who wrote he books by himself. There was no mention fromwhat I understan of Moon or Anderson until Mon started translatng them for a 2009 release and Anderson invited him to Atlantykron. |
Well, my research suggests that Anderson is a narcissistic liar (if he's real), so Moon's inclusion of him shoots Moon's credibility all to hell. Who can say that the "translation" is even accurate? |
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 07:05:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I'm sure listeniing to te interview will not suddenly mean that you lose your critica thinking sills. |
Good thing I didn't say that. I said that you want me to suspend my critical thinking skills based on your emotional appeal.
Anyway, likeI said its Radu tthat maks the claims, he orignally wrote the books as hown here: Its just the way that both Peter Moon and David Anderson someho come innto this when PeterMoon translated the books that sem to sow more validity iinto it all. Remember befre this it was Radu who wrote he books by himself. There was no mention fromwhat I understan of Moon or Anderson until Mon started translatng them for a 2009 release and Anderson invited him to Atlantykron.
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Again, Radu provides no evidence. An interview will not present evidence, just his opinion and/or a sales pitch for a conspiracy theory. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 09:34:55 [Permalink]
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Available in a translated form on Amazon. It's in their Occult and Religion section. How appropo.
I don't have to read the books.
Radu Cinamar is unknown outside Romania. He has no scolarly bona-fides. He does make the loonie circuit here in the US. Same thing with Moon.
The book is nothing but legend and supposition married with false appeals to agencies that do not exist or assignments that he does not see fit to verify.
He is no expert in any field. He is not a credible witness. He provides no evidence. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 09:38:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by flanagan1000
I'm sure listeniing to te interview will not suddenly mean that you lose your critica thinking sills. Anyway, likeI said its Radu tthat maks the claims, he orignally wrote the books as hown here: Its just the way that both Peter Moon and David Anderson someho come innto this when PeterMoon translated the books that sem to sow more validity iinto it all. Remember befre this it was Radu who wrote he books by himself. There was no mention fromwhat I understan of Moon or Anderson until Mon started translatng them for a 2009 release and Anderson invited him to Atlantykron. |
Well, my research suggests that Anderson is a narcissistic liar (if he's real), so Moon's inclusion of him shoots Moon's credibility all to hell. Who can say that the "translation" is even accurate?
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I guess its just what this link starts saying that gives it a more eerie feeling. How it all ties together and such.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 10:11:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I guess its just what this link starts saying that gives it a more eerie feeling. How it all ties together and such.
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Have you watched "Here Be Dragons" yet? Knowledge on how to recognize the con prevents eerie feeling. This is an opportunity for you to learn. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 10:54:11 [Permalink]
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| I did watch it, and yuo know I used to love watching shows like Penn and Teller's Bullshit!. But these only dealt with small things like the Virgin Mary on Toast, homeopathy and the est. Nothinng this big, have you ever seen anything like this, How could Brian Dunning tackkle this, he is just small time. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 11:41:45 [Permalink]
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| Have you readit? |
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 11:55:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Have you readit? |
The "review?" Yes. Makes the book sound terribly dull, a masturbatory fantasy about receiving revelations from beings with all the answers. A replacement for the Bible for secular conspiracy theorists who can't be bothered to learn real history or science. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 12:19:22 [Permalink]
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Oh shit... I just found more independaant claim that there are secret tunnels in the caves, all my confidece that this is all fake has just been shattered:
http://www.jonettecrowley.com/RomanianTunnels.htm
It all started in October of 2007 in Bucharest when a Romanian high school boy, Cosmin, enthusiastically shared with me some of the secrets of his beloved land—especially the mountains of Transylvania.
“There are stories about a cave in the Bucegi mountains and tunnels that go from there to Egypt, and to Tibet through Baghdad. In the cave they found advanced technologies from ancient civilizations, maybe from ET’s. Now the U.S. military and the Romanian government has taken control of the mountain and everything is top secret.”
Somehow the highest levels of the Masons were involved in exploring these caves too. But I sometimes got confused listening to the complexity of Cosmin’s tale. I listened to him tell me of the books by Radu Cinamar, published only in Romanian, that popularized the theories of the secret tunnels. It certainly seemed plausible. Why not? No doubt our governments hide a lot of strange things from the people.
Cosmin was fascinated by the legends of the tunnels and intrigued by my ability to channel and to travel through space/time. He felt that I had an important role to play in clearing the tunnels of negative power. I wasn’t so sure, one, if this was something I was capable of, and two, did I really want to do a shamanic journey into a secret underground world that represented a top secret military project. And three, the only ‘facts’ I had were the enthusiastic words of a well read 17 year old.
Cosmin was adamant that we should take the train to Transylvania so I could meditate near the mountain to see what I could “see”. His earnestness was not merely that of a high school student. I could see him acting and speaking as a powerful, knowledgeable high priest. I took notice of the shift and I knew that my role was to follow Cosmin’s lead.
A blizzard shut down all options of traveling to Transylvania. Undeterred, Cosmin explained that he had prepared a ceremony and a special prayer so we could do the shamanic journey from my apartment in Bucharest. As the wind roared and rain poured, as the lights in the area flickered on and off, we did a special journey into the forgotten tunnels of other, more advanced races. Cosmin, our friends Carmen and Mira, and I each saw and sensed different things, that when pieced together created a full picture of what happened on our journey. It seems that we were successful in clearing out darkness, “reclaiming the records…and the disks of remembrance” and “opening the Seventh Seal or Stargate.” (You can find the transcript of this shamanic journey, ‘Romanian Underworld Initiation’ - Here ).
In November 2008 when I returned to Romania I was curious to get some confirmation about the existence of these secret tunnels. Since the power of intention in my life is so miraculous I wasn’t too surprised when I just happened to meet, on two separate occasions in the course of one week, two men who had been involved in military intelligence in the Romanian government.
After telling my first contact about Cosmin’s story of the hidden caves and my own inner journey into them, I asked simply, “Are there tunnels?”
“Yes. Your government knows all about them. You can’t go there. It is well protected.” My new friend answered.
“Why is the government there? Do they have spiritual intentions?” I queried.
“They want technology. It is always about technology,” he answered.
I followed up, “Cosmin says there are discs, codes and records….”
“The Masons can journey there too. But they don’t have the codes…the right frequencies”, he added.
“But I do! I went there!” I exclaimed. (Probably not at all a smart thing to admit, I am thinking in retrospect.)
“Can you initiate me with the codes?” the ex-military guy asked me.
I answered, “Someday, if you are ready for it, your soul will give you the initiation. You can’t just ask for it. … Who made the tunnels?”
“Another civilization,” was his reply.
I added my thoughts, “The military will never get the real information. They will be cursed…sickness, death, accidents.”
“What about the ‘dark forces’?” he asked me.
“They are surprised we’re coming. They’ve been operating for thousands of years with impunity. We humans have had war and struggle and poverty and it isn’t entirely our fault. We’ve been influenced from these places.” I summarized.
A few days later, another man came up to me and identified himself as having worked in Romanian intelligence. So, of course, I had another question for him. “They say that the tunnel from Romania to Tibet goes through Baghdad. Do you think this is the reason behind our being at war in Iraq?”
“Yes,” was his quick reply. “And it is the reason the Russians and now the Americans are in Afghanistan. There are lots of secret tunnels under Afghanistan. What is happening at the mountain in Transylvania is top, top secret. When there is drilling there, the entire military goes on high alert.”
Of course, I don’t know where any of this will lead. But as a ‘spiritual Indiana Jones’, I am fascinated by the possibilities. The Tibetan priest, T. Lapsang Rampa, writes about similar caves with advanced technology that are hidden in Tibet. Many believe that this is one of the reasons the Chinese are in Tibet. It is interesting that Rampa said a sphinx marks these places of hidden knowledge—in Egypt, in Tibet and in the Andes. Sure enough, in the area of the Bucegi mountains in Transylvania where these tunnel entrances are said to be, there is a sphinx made of rock! |
Oh no, oh no,oh no. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 12:23:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I did watch it, and yuo know I used to love watching shows like Penn and Teller's Bullshit!. But these only dealt with small things like the Virgin Mary on Toast, homeopathy and the est. Nothinng this big, have you ever seen anything like this, How could Brian Dunning tackkle this, he is just small time.
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Have you considered the concept of the big lie?
In this case, it refers to propaganda.
"All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying."
The author of this particular quote which shows the force and effect of the big lie is Adolph Hitler in his book Mein Kampf.
He was a monster, but he did use these concepts to his own nefarious ends to fool a nation into following him into oblivion while doing horrendous things. |
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 12:29:02 [Permalink]
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It is not independant confirmation.
It's someone who is relating the writings of Cinamar to another.
Also note the context that this journey is in.
A Shamantic journey. Or as we in New Age religions refer to it, Astral travel.
He physically never left the hotel. He "astral traveled" to the caves.
Wow. That's even less than shit for evidence. |
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Proof of cover up on time travel technology
