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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:01:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rumtopf. The evidence you supply that a fraud was committed is the discussion because that's your claim. The game is bullshit. Just lay out the problems with the Sturdy Colls study and we can get on with it.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Rumtopf
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126 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:03:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.


So the question here is: What information does Liz W have that Dave W doesn't?

Would you share that information with us Liz W?
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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:04:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BTW, I'm really excited to provide an answer myself, but I'm waiting for kil to answer first.
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LizW
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USA
113 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:05:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.


So the question here is: What information does Liz W have that Dave W doesn't?

Would you share that information with us Liz W?

Not until you show yours first. Where is your proof?

You learn something new every g****mn day!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:06:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Would you share that information with us Liz W?
No, Liz answered your five questions in the format you asked them. Doing more than that wasn't a condition. It's your turn, Rumtopf.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:07:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

BTW, I'm really excited to provide an answer myself, but I'm waiting for kil to answer first.
Why? How many people need to answer before you will? Four, it seems. Why four?

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Kil
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:07:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

BTW, I'm really excited to provide an answer myself, but I'm waiting for kil to answer first.
Fuck you Rumtopf. I'm not playing your game.

The question here, because you are making the claim, is did Sturdy Colls commit a fraud. Where is your evidence for that?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Rumtopf
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126 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:14:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil:

"The question here, because you are making the claim, is did Sturdy Colls commit a fraud."


That depends on what the answers are to these questions:


# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

# 2 - At Treblinka II, it is known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - that, to date, no more than and no less than __?__ extant graves have been discovered, in which legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators have - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented forensic science - literally / truly - physically unearthed / tangibly located - actual, verifiable, scientifically proven human remains.

# 3 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were actual trash and/or trash burning pits and/or latrine pits / trenches and/or water wells that were dug / used as such by the Germans - during their time of occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__


# 4 - Is it true or false that, at - Treblinka II - there were numerous exploratory excavations dug by so-called “robbery diggers / treasure seekers,” and/or by Soviet / Polish investigators - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__


# 5 - Is it true or false that, extraneous cremation remains have been deposited at - Treblinka II - after the time of German occupation? - TRUE. - or - FALSE. __?__
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LizW
Skeptic Friend

USA
113 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:16:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send LizW a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rumtopf,
Just going off topic for a moment. At the bottom of page 10 did you mean to imply that Kil are the same person? Oh and by the way...Proof please.

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Rumtopf
Banned

126 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:17:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil:

"Fuck you Rumtopf. I'm not playing your game."

Kil, unless and until you answer the following:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

I'll put you on ignore.

And I will answer it myself as soon as you do.

What are you waiting for Kil?

What are you so afraid of?

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Rumtopf
Banned

126 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:19:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So here is where this debate is at:

# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Kil's answer - ?

Rumtopf's answer - will come right after kils.

So the question here is: What information does Liz W have that Dave W doesn't?

Would you share that information with us Liz W?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:19:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Kil:

"The question here, because you are making the claim, is did Sturdy Colls commit a fraud."


That depends on what the answers are to these questions:
No, it doesn't. The meaning of "fraud" in either the scientific sense or the legal sense doesn't depend on the answers to those questions. And the questions don't even name her.

Just admit that you're afraid of smart women, and we can move on. We can even direct you to support groups.

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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:21:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rumtopf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
# 1 - Is it known - WITH 100 % CERTAINTY - via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology / forensic science that, at - Treblinka II - there are extant graves in which actual human remains have literally been - physically unearthed / tangibly located - by legitimate archaeologists / crime scene investigators? - Yes. - or - No. __?__

LizW's answer - Yes.

Dave W's answer - No.

Dave, what information do you think Liz has that made her answer yes to the same question that you answer no to?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:21:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

So here is where this debate is at:
There's no debate going on because you refuse to answer questions like a scaredy-cat.
So the question here is: What information does Liz W have that Dave W doesn't?
Why do you assume that Liz is the one with extra information?

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Dave W.
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USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2014 :  16:23:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rumtopf

Dave, what information do you think Liz has that made her answer yes to the same question that you answer no to?
Oh, I know exactly why she answered the way she did, and I'll tell you, as soon as you provide your proof.

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