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Rumtopf
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Posted - 01/20/2014 : 22:46:03 [Permalink]
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| Come on people, let's get those answers in! |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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 Posted - 01/20/2014 : 23:16:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rumtopf
(Isn't debating fun?!) |
What debate?| Dave W's answer - MOOT (i.e. - ZERO.) |
Lying isn't part of a real debate (i.e., if you want a real debate, summon the integrity to quit lying about me).* Do you have any proof of mass graves at Treblinka? - Yes. - or - No. __?__
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Rumtopf's answer - No. |
Skeptics don't talk about proof, they talk about the evidence, so you've outed yourself as not being a skeptic. Why are you here?| I would like to see more people join in here. |
So apparently four people isn't enough, either. How many will suffice before you support your claim that multiple "orthodox historians" (your plural) have claimed what you say they've claimed? |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 01/21/2014 : 07:41:32 [Permalink]
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Are we seriously listening to some holocaust denier prattle on about "show me the graves" bullshit again?
Now that he has presented claims of 900,000 individuals in mass graves (when Nazi Germany regularly cremated the bodies and didn't care to individualize the remains). Yet he refuses to identify where his source was from this claim. For all we know it was made up by some other neo-Nazi holocaust denier as a strawman argument.
OK, Rumtopf, identify your source for the mass graves claim. Also, support with evidence your accusation that Colls is making fraudent claims with regard to Treblinka.
Begging the question does not free you from the burden of proof. |
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/21/2014 : 10:19:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
Are we seriously listening to some holocaust denier prattle on about "show me the graves" bullshit again?
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Let's not leave out being called liar, coward and lacking integrity. All standard fair from a poster who comes to the discussion with nothing more than a big mouth and no evidence supporting their position. Just like a Fox News discussion. |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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Rumtopf
Banned
126 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2014 : 11:37:29 [Permalink]
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Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that Yad Vashem claims 876,000 jews and gypsies were killed at Treblinka II?
Yes or no?
Kil's answer - ?
Valiant Dancer's answer - ?
Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that Colls was recently featured in a BBC program called: "The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust" in which the first two sentences spoken by the narrator were: Narrator (N) - "It's the beginning of an investigation into the crime of the 20th century. In 1942 the Nazis transported around 900,000 people to Treblinka."
Yes or no?
Kil's answer - ?
Valiant Dancer's answer - ?
Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that 876,000 could reasonably be called "approximately" or "around" 900,000?
Yes or no?
Kil's answer - ?
Valiant Dancer's answer - ?
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| Edited by - Rumtopf on 01/21/2014 11:51:41 |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13481 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2014 : 12:02:01 [Permalink]
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I said no more games, Rumtopf. Time's up.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2014 : 13:29:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Rumtopf
Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that Yad Vashem claims 876,000 jews and gypsies were killed at Treblinka II?
Yes or no?
Kil's answer - ?
Valiant Dancer's answer - ?
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Where is your source that Yad Vashem makes this claim?
That the German government had 13.5 million people of which 900,000 were Roma (gypsies) and 7.5 million were Jews executed in concentration camps is established fact from records from Germany itself and the subject of the Nuremburg trials. (Of which the transcripts are available) As there were 300 Nazi concentration camps, this is not a number that is particularly unreasonable. Given that the second commandant of this camp, Franz Stangl, was arrested and charged with killing around 900,000 people in the camp (of which he confessed to but claimed he was merely following orders), it makes your nebulous claims suspect.
I am convinced by the totality of evidence available that such a mass of killings (as the bodies were cremated on site) occurred.
Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that Colls was recently featured in a BBC program called: "The Hidden Graves of the Holocaust" in which the first two sentences spoken by the narrator were: Narrator (N) - "It's the beginning of an investigation into the crime of the 20th century. In 1942 the Nazis transported around 900,000 people to Treblinka."
Yes or no?
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Valiant Dancer's answer - ?
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The narrator was imprecise in his language. As the trial of Franz Stangl indicated that 900,000 was through 1944. Actual hard evidence placed the number at 870,000 at least. As I have not seen the documentary in question, I can neither confirm nor deny that statement.
Kil / Valiant Dancer, do you deny that 876,000 could reasonably be called "approximately" or "around" 900,000?
Yes or no?
Kil's answer - ?
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It could be rounded up to that number. |
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
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Posted - 01/21/2014 : 14:30:41 [Permalink]
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| Was Rumtopf a human? He seemed to be just a mindless bot. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13481 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2014 : 19:03:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
Was Rumtopf a human? He seemed to be just a mindless bot.
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Ha! Pretty close. He only had one trick and when that didn't work, he still only had one trick.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Archaeological Fraud At Treblinka
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