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Kilik
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quotes from chapters 1 and 2 of "Science of Being" by Eugene ferson
" Etenal energy, primal energy- pevading the universe, filling infinite space. If primal energy fills infinite space for one moment, it must be one with eternal space for eternity, because there is no place where it can lose itself. Therefore the basic energy of the universe is found to be infinite, and at the same time eternal. Through further investigation, it was discovered that infinite energy expesses itself in most admirable laws, sublime laws: that it shows the profoundest intelligence and logic, a self conciossness expressed in the divinest terms, laws invariable, true to themselves, mathematically correct, and above all, harmonious and beutiful.
As a result of all this reasoning, was discovered, through its first universal manifestation as primal energy, that which has always exsisted, the eternal unmanifest called god, conciouss of it's own power, law emitting, law abiding. In other words there is a Unit, a One, existing eternally, expressing itself through its creation, the universe, conciously governing it, sustaining it in a condition of eternal harmony, and loving it, for love and harmony are one. Love Is attraction.Thus science has found divinity under another name. Therefore the word "god" which would have been used in "religion", will be substituted a word having deeper meaning, covering broader ground, the word principle."
" That is the great principle is omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent, The great principle has from eternity, out of itself created everything there is. It is it's own center and own circumference. The absolute is present everywhere, whether we are conciouss of it or not. That means that whenever we wish to come in contact with the great principle, we do not need to think of something far distant, unattainable. All we need to do is know the immutable fact that its first manifistation, universal energy, is always about us in full power. Therefore when anyone realises this presence conciously, there it is in its full power. We can agian make the comparisin to the ocean. We cannot say that in any one place in the ocean there is more power than in another. There is power everywhere. Whenever one wishes to contact the ocean, one has simply to dip the hand into the water and one will feel all that the ocean is, and if one puts tha hand in another part of the ocea, one will have the same results. Millions of people can do the same thing, at the same time, and they all will contact the same fullness of the ocean. So it is with the great principle. Whenever we conciously contact the absolute in its manifistation as Universal energy, there it is in all it's omnipotence, because it is all embracing. Therefore it is not correct, as we find in literature, to imagine that there is somewhere in the universe a center of powers and forces from which all forces radiate, acting most strongly on those things which are nearest and more feebly on those ****hest away"
"" Primal energy, as was explained in the first lesson, is the fundamental force of the universe. It underlies, pervades, and sustains everything, fills all space, endures throughout eternity, and is the source of all power. It is indeed the very life of the universe. As such, it is in perpetual motion, expressing itself through what are called vibrations
In the absolute there is only one kind of vibration, the spiritual. In The present state of human concioussness those spiritual vibrations appear as a three fold ray
1. Life or magnetic vibrations
2.mind vibrations
3.soul vibrations"
" And each kind of vibration is expessing itsef in a different way, which conforms to it's own particular laws"
" Life vibrations are also called magnetic vibrations, because they possess two primary qualites, motion and attraction. In the practical application, those qualities are continually used in oreder to obtain the desired results. Magnetic vibrations are essentailly importan because they not only permeate the whole universe and underlie everything, but because they constitute the very element out of which our bodies and the whole visible universe is made. The great practical value of those Life Vibrations is that we do not need concentration or strong mental effort to contact them. All we need to do is to become concious of their continual flow into us, and thus establish the so called contact. No matter what we do, be it physical, mental, or emotional activity, we should never use our own very limited supply of life enrgy. THis must be the cardinal point to be remebered."
" The question may arise, why is it necessary to make contactwith the universal life energy? Are we not in direct and constant communication with it at all times? Yes, but we are not concious of it. On the contrary, we conciously beleive we are independant of it, that we have a life force of our own. We think we are seperate from all power. Therefore we need to reestblish on the mental plane that which was lost there, though we never lost that contact on the spiritual plane."
" There are different methods of contacting Primal energy. The easiest and the simplest way is through mental contact. In order to do it, we must relax completely as we can, physically, mentally, emotionally. And when we feel harmony within us then we must say to ourslves " I am one with the universal life energy it is flowing through me now, I feel it"
"In order to overcome that difficulty and enable everybody, even the most skeptical and timid, to make successful that conciouss contact with the universal life energy, there is another method of pure physical contact, based on pure physical laws. That second method has this advantage over the mental one, that it does not require any faith in it. It works for the reason that the physical laws are put into operation, and the physical contact with the universal energy is made, not because we think it or want it, but because we cannot help it."
" Yet if we do not think about it, it still will work, because of the aforesaid reasons. The second, the physical method, is based on a certain exercise called the star exercise"
" The heart situated on the left side of the body, is not only the central pumping station which takes in and sends out blood, but also is the apparatus which sucks in and pours out universal life energy"
That is from the book " Science of being" written by Eugene ferson in 1920s.
http://www.atlantis.to/books/Peniel's-books.htm
Here is the Star exercise to develop qi flowing inwards as well as outwards together. And to store/charge/refine as well as refine the energy vibration of the energy body.
http://www.meditation-techniques.net/meditations/starexercise.htm
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Kilik
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Posted - 04/02/2005 : 03:13:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik
[quote]Originally posted by Kilik
[quote] Or does a checkerboard (82=64) also have something to do with the I Ching?
A checker board is a creation of the human mind. QI potentials shape and
control the human mind's(lucifer) perceptions, as well as the physical worlds form. Human concioussness is like a prism, which divides one thing into divisions, like light and dark, male female, opposites etc. However it is an illusion of both the Triple World and human mind, as there is no dark, only absense of light, and like attracts like, eg. men attract to women, but only together is the true form and some life forms are hermaphrodite. Everything is octaves, orbits, and waves of vibration. Galaxies, Stars, planets, moons, vapours, sound, matter, light.
Count the black dots
http://www.progression-labs.com/images/optic2.jpg
So red and black are related to I ching. THe original Taiji is actually Red and black or red and blue, instead of black/white.
The flesh eyes are actually like lenses, which reflect light almost like a prism. The mind is like this too. It can also send out and receive vibrations.
Some Psychic phenomena has been shown to exist-
http://anson.ucdavis.edu/~utts/air2.html
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/psi/delanoy/delanoy.html
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 04/02/2005 : 09:25:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik:
SOmeone did. Whether Einstien or those who paved the way, or even possibly those who came after. Even if he didn't know what the I ching is, it is still a profound knowledge.
So you really have absolutely no evidence of a link between the I Ching and the theory of relativity, but you choose to believe it anyway because someone posted it on a website.
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Speculation can be based on criteria and knowledge.
Yes, but if not tempered by critical thinking, speculation usually just turns out to be nothing more than unsupported crap. |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
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Siberia
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Posted - 04/02/2005 : 14:14:48 [Permalink]
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| Beautiful writing, but if I was to believe everything beautiful I've read... |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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furshur
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 05:26:27 [Permalink]
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Both Pre natal or post natal primary qi forces can be viewed in relation to 64 trigrams in the triple world realm
Thanks for clearing that up!
Edited to add: You seem to be moving violently from subject to subject - this will accumulate negative qi. If you would stick with one subject and slowly transition into the next subject this will accumulate positive qi. Just a suggestion - I would hate to see you screw up your karma.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 08:13:40 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Kilik
A checker board is a creation of the human mind.
So is the I Ching.quote:
QI potentials shape and control the human mind's(lucifer) perceptions, as well as the physical worlds form.
Great, then Qi potentials shaped and controlled the formation of the checkerboard, too. |
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Kilik
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 10:39:46 [Permalink]
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| Ancient Taoist cultivators were very in touch with nature and understood the rythms and cycles of nature and the universe. So in a sense they could go beyond there human mind in a natural way and follow the path of Tao. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 10:42:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik
Age of Aquarius some say
And I liked that 5th Dimension song.
The Age of Aquarius is more of a spiritual movement with slim to no scientific verification. There have been several suggestions that ancient peoples had access to higher scientific techniques, but lost it after the destruction of the library of Alexandria. That is somewhat true. The use of honey as an anti-bacterial by ancient Egyptians is well known. (The procedure was sound despite the justification being incorrect.)
However, claims of a global consciousness or even a suggestion of a being living for 16,000 years is absolutely absurd. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 10:52:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik
Ancient Taoist cultivators were very in touch with nature and understood the rythms and cycles of nature and the universe. So in a sense they could go beyond there human mind in a natural way and follow the path of Tao.
So were multiple ancient agrarian cultures. They built religious beliefs around them. When your primary source of food is dependant on the Great Wheel, you tend to understand it very well and tend to assign a spiritual quality to it. Celts, Egyptians, and other cultures made note of the movement of the Great Wheel and learned to harness it to grow things.
(Definition of Great Wheel: an ancient concept of birth, life, death, and rebirth which applies to naturally occuring cycles of Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter. Generalized to the cycle of life posited by Wiccans and other Neo-Pagans.)
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 11:16:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik
Ancient Taoist cultivators were very in touch with nature and understood the rythms and cycles of nature and the universe.
1) Was this in response to anything in particular?
2) Since Taoism is less than 2,600 years old, what do you define as "ancient?"
3) Cultivators of what?quote:
So in a sense they could go beyond there human mind in a natural way and follow the path of Tao.
Your conclusion does not follow from your stated premise. It's nearly tautological, in fact. |
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Kilik
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 11:18:41 [Permalink]
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| And in modern times we have found that the knowledge of these rythms and structuers is similar and the same as the patterns of the universe discovered by modern ways. First and foremost spiritual cultivation was the primary concern of the body and mind cultivation. |
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Kilik
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 11:24:32 [Permalink]
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| Well, "Taoism" may only be recorded as 3000 years old or so, but there is a so called great pre Taoism way of Tao cultivation, and the knowledge did not come from no where. So it could have been a remnant of prehistoric culture, but it could also been formed by a founder( eg, Lao Tzu), but the founders knowledge then would have to have come from somewhere else with that kind of knowledge. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/04/2005 : 11:37:48 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kilik
And in modern times we have found that the knowledge of these rythms and structuers is similar and the same as the patterns of the universe discovered by modern ways.
Can you offer up even a single example of this assertion?quote:
Well, "Taoism" may only be recorded as 3000 years old or so, but there is a so called great pre Taoism way of Tao cultivation, and the knowledge did not come from no where. So it could have been a remnant of prehistoric culture, but it could also been formed by a founder( eg, Lao Tzu), but the founders knowledge then would have to have come from somewhere else with that kind of knowledge.
Knowledge is invented or discovered all the time. There is no "law of conservation of information." The idea of an atomic bomb did not exist prior to the discovery of radioactivity. The Tao of the Internet did not exist in the 1940s. |
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