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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 06/12/2007 : 15:44:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Robb:
It is not a sin to be born with the tendency to want same sex intimate relationships. It is a sin if you continue to cultivate that desire and thoughts and act on it. Just as it is a sin to look lustfully at a woman that is not my wife. <snip> |
Robb:
We do not have a choice in what tempts us, we do have a choice in how we react to the temptations. |
You, looking at other woman but not acting on it says nothing about what your asking of gays. A gay man in a monogamous relationship lusting after other men might be a fair comparison. |
Or another alternative accurate analogy is Robb having feelings for his whife, but should not have intimate relations (sex) with her, but live in celibacy. Otherwise he would act upon his sexual orientation, just as gays do, when they want relations.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13477 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 17:44:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by Kil
Robb:
It is not a sin to be born with the tendency to want same sex intimate relationships. It is a sin if you continue to cultivate that desire and thoughts and act on it. Just as it is a sin to look lustfully at a woman that is not my wife. <snip> |
Robb:
We do not have a choice in what tempts us, we do have a choice in how we react to the temptations. |
You, looking at other woman but not acting on it says nothing about what your asking of gays. A gay man in a monogamous relationship lusting after other men might be a fair comparison. |
Or another alternative accurate analogy is Robb having feelings for his whife, but should not have intimate relations (sex) with her, but live in celibacy. Otherwise he would act upon his sexual orientation, just as gays do, when they want relations.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
1888 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 19:58:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Originally posted by moakley
Originally posted by Robb
If you did believe in Heaven and Hell would you want Stalin in Hell?
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Does that make the existence of heaven or hell a matter of belief?
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No.
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Probably not a surprise to you, but I disagree. The only thing you have to support heaven and hell is a firm belief. Even the text of the bible which tells that heaven and hell exist is only supported by a firm belief. In order to believe you must have faith, to have faith you must believe.
It really is a matter of belief. You believe it. I don't. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
BANNED
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 20:12:14 [Permalink]
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Moakley, in a reading of the bible using the original words; hell is nothing more than a grave, and heaven is not a place in which man goes after death. These ideas were made up by religion to scam the people.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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