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Original_Intent
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USA
609 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  06:13:29  Show Profile Send Original_Intent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How quiet the politics folder has become.......

I guess everything is better now that there is a Democrat led Congress...

pleco
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USA
2998 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  06:18:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL - or everyone is busy keeping up with conspiracy posts....

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  06:19:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah daily rainbows and money tree's for everyone.

Really though we could have a Dick Cheney did this/that asshole thing thread everyday.

Nothing like a slighlty less inept congress, which doesnt have the votes to overcome a veto.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  07:29:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, to our defense, politics per se isn't much in the "skeptic" purview. If it is, it usually has to go with government trying to force religion, and while that's been going on in the US (note the recent Supreme Court ruling about government and religious charities), it's not egregious enough (I guess) for people to write and post bout.

Other politics/government issues often make it to the "conspiracy" folder, witness all of Jerome's posts about the US being a de facto communist state, and so on.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  08:16:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote


There. That ought'a liven things up a little.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Rubicon95
Skeptic Friend

USA
220 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  09:31:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rubicon95 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Filthy, Hunting season begins?

BTW, I really love the stuff you put in your signature.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  09:36:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy



There. That ought'a liven things up a little.
What's funny about that is an exchange the two apparently had right before Darth Vader Cheney came to office, as reported in the Washington Post's chilling discussion of Vader, er, Cheney:
In his Park Avenue corner suite at Cerberus Global Investments, Dan Quayle recalled the moment he learned how much his old job had changed. Cheney had just taken the oath of office, and Quayle paid a visit to offer advice from one vice president to another.

"I said, 'Dick, you know, you're going to be doing a lot of this international traveling, you're going to be doing all this political fundraising . . . you'll be going to the funerals,' " Quayle said in an interview earlier this year. "I mean, this is what vice presidents do. I said, 'We've all done it.' "

Cheney "got that little smile," Quayle said, and replied, "I have a different understanding with the president."

"He had the understanding with President Bush that he would be -- I'm just going to use the word 'surrogate chief of staff,' " said Quayle, whose membership on the Defense Policy Board gave him regular occasion to see Cheney privately over the following four years.
The whole series more or less confirms that Cheney is an evil SOB, and I will rejoice greatly when he's gone.
Edited by - Cuneiformist on 06/27/2007 09:40:48
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  11:13:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Original_Intent

How quiet the politics folder has become.......

I guess everything is better now that there is a Democrat led Congress...


They must have done something constructive so far. Anyone know what it is?

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  11:24:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Originally posted by Original_Intent

How quiet the politics folder has become.......

I guess everything is better now that there is a Democrat led Congress...


They must have done something constructive so far. Anyone know what it is?
Well, one good thing is in finally investigating some of the crookedness of the Bush White House! While there's still lots to be done, I'm happy that it's started. Does anyone think for a second that, for instance, an investigation into the DOJ's crooked hiring and firing practices would have happened under the past Congressional leadership?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  12:03:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Rubicon95

Filthy, Hunting season begins?

BTW, I really love the stuff you put in your signature.
Perhaps he'd like to go hunting with me, d'ya think? I rarely bother with shotguns....

Delighted that you enjoy my signature. I'd like to point out how difficult and time consuming it is to find suitable candidates, but alas, I can't. It is a pathetic comment upon human society that it can be done in minutes with almost no effort at all.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  12:05:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, one good thing is in finally investigating some of the crookedness of the Bush White House! While there's still lots to be done, I'm happy that it's started.


A good start.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  12:46:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gorgo asked:
They must have done something constructive so far. Anyone know what it is?


They have proven that they are useless. So afraid of being called names by republicans that they won't defund the Iraq war. Bunch of gdamn cowards.

They have also guaranteed that I won't be voting for any of them if there is any independent candidate running. A Bloomberg/Hagel ticket will get my immediate support, and the democrats can go fuck themselves. Hell, I might even vote Nader to protest, if he runs.

The only democrat who could get me to support them and vote for them in 2008 is Gore. And I doubt he will run.

O.I. said:
How quiet the politics folder has become.......


I think its because of the fighting.

People, otherwise good skeptical thinkers, lose their minds when it comes to politics, and refuse to apply critical thinking and skepticism to statemets they make in this folder. It leads to a lot of nastiness.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Rubicon95
Skeptic Friend

USA
220 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  14:30:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Rubicon95 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

Perhaps he'd like to go hunting with me, d'ya think? I rarely bother with shotguns....

Delighted that you enjoy my signature. I'd like to point out how difficult and time consuming it is to find suitable candidates, but alas, I can't. It is a pathetic comment upon human society that it can be done in minutes with almost no effort at all.






Would a flame thrower help or do you think it would bounce off?
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marty
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Posted - 06/30/2007 :  20:31:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send marty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't believe that government is trying to force religion down people's throats. If anything, they are trying to become or create a new religion based on consumerism and the cult of personality. A similar thing happened during Mao's take over of China. Religion was banished, but you instead "worshiped" the words and actions of the political leaders.

I see a similar thing happening with Clinton and Gore on the left and Reagan and Bush on the right. Additionally, there private groups vying for your "worship" with like environmentalists, civil rights leaders, the NRA, the ACLU and Unions.

Next, in the past 10 years (at least) the two major political parties have grown together, both fighting for the moderate vote. It is my belief that there are more moderates in America because either people have lost "faith" in both parties, or they don't want to be judged as belonging to either. I guess its better to be labeled a cynic than a Republican these days.
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/01/2007 :  11:05:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by marty

I don't believe that government is trying to force religion down people's throats. If anything, they are trying to become or create a new religion based on consumerism and the cult of personality. A similar thing happened during Mao's take over of China. Religion was banished, but you instead "worshiped" the words and actions of the political leaders.

I see a similar thing happening with Clinton and Gore on the left and Reagan and Bush on the right. Additionally, there private groups vying for your "worship" with like environmentalists, civil rights leaders, the NRA, the ACLU and Unions.

Next, in the past 10 years (at least) the two major political parties have grown together, both fighting for the moderate vote. It is my belief that there are more moderates in America because either people have lost "faith" in both parties, or they don't want to be judged as belonging to either. I guess its better to be labeled a cynic than a Republican these days.



This is the point I have been tying to make. You have stated such in a better manner than I.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2007 :  16:14:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by marty
I guess its better to be labeled a cynic than a Republican these days.
Absolutely. As long as you're not voting republican, I'll stay happy with whatever label you fancy...

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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