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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 11:54:54
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"He was supposed to protect me from all evils and instead he gave me to Satan who encouraged me to kill," he charged."
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56680
Shouldn't He be suing Satan instead? Especially since the Bible does not say God will protect us from all evil. I guess God has more money.
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:00:37 [Permalink]
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Well...
Psalm 121:7
The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul. |
But I think god in this case would be an accessory, so he should sue both. |
by Filthy The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:11:11 [Permalink]
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Besides, God created everything, including Satan. And if God can punish children for the sins of their parents, I think it only fitting justice that the Creator be held responsible for the actions of the created. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail) Evidently, I rock! Why not question something for a change? Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:26:34 [Permalink]
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Don't worry. Robert Duvall is god's consigliere. He'll give him an offer he can't refuse. |
I know the rent is in arrears The dog has not been fed in years It's even worse than it appears But it's alright- Jerry Garcia Robert Hunter
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:28:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Besides, God created everything, including Satan. And if God can punish children for the sins of their parents, I think it only fitting justice that the Creator be held responsible for the actions of the created.
| So should God pay my parking ticket? |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:39:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb So should God pay my parking ticket?
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26022 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2007 : 12:50:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
So should God pay my parking ticket? | Isn't it obvious that Satan made you forget to feed the meter? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 07/19/2007 : 13:10:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Originally posted by Dave W.
Besides, God created everything, including Satan. And if God can punish children for the sins of their parents, I think it only fitting justice that the Creator be held responsible for the actions of the created.
| So should God pay my parking ticket?
| If this is a concern, I suggest making a hollow cross that fits over parking meters. Carry this in your car at all times. Place it over a parking meter to remind the meter readers that Jesus has already paid your fine.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Ghost_Skeptic
SFN Regular
Canada
510 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 01:07:47 [Permalink]
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The real problem with suing God would be collecting if you won. God appears to be "Judgment Proof" - having no assets to sieze. How the hell are you going to collect? |
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King
History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms
"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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dv82matt
SFN Regular
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Posted - 07/20/2007 : 03:10:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
The real problem with suing God would be collecting if you won. God appears to be "Judgment Proof" - having no assets to sieze. How the hell are you going to collect? | No assets at all? I'd have assumed the creator of the universe would have deep pockets. Ah well, I expect He's been hampered a bit by the whole "not existing" thing. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 05:43:12 [Permalink]
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Oh you'll get what's coming to you....though it will be hard to enjoy it while swimming in a lake fire for all eternity. |
by Filthy The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 05:45:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
Well...
Psalm 121:7
The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul. |
You and I both know that this is not the case. Christians sin (do evil) and evil things happen to Christians as well.
The semi-colon (most versions have a semi-colon) suggests that the two statements are intimately linked. They have meaning together and less meaning apart form each other. It is talking about preserving your soul from hell which God will do. Other verses that support this are Jn 17:11-12, Ps 91:14, Ps 69:29, Ps 64:1, Ps 138:7, Lk 17:33.
Also the first definition of preserve is "to keep alive or in existence; make lasting: to preserve our liberties as free citizens." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preserve I think this fits with this idea. |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 05:47:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by dv82matt
Originally posted by Ghost_Skeptic
The real problem with suing God would be collecting if you won. God appears to be "Judgment Proof" - having no assets to sieze. How the hell are you going to collect? | No assets at all? I'd have assumed the creator of the universe would have deep pockets. Ah well, I expect He's been hampered a bit by the whole "not existing" thing.
| I think the Bible is clear that God owns everything. So I think He has pretty deep pockets. Maybe this is why He gets sued alot? |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 05:49:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Robb
Originally posted by pleco
Well...
Psalm 121:7
The LORD shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul. |
You and I both know that this is not the case. Christians sin (do evil) and evil things happen to Christians as well.
The semi-colon (most versions have a semi-colon) suggests that the two statements are intimately linked. They have meaning together and less meaning apart form each other. It is talking about preserving your soul from hell which God will do. Other verses that support this are Jn 17:11-12, Ps 91:14, Ps 69:29, Ps 64:1, Ps 138:7, Lk 17:33.
Also the first definition of preserve is "to keep alive or in existence; make lasting: to preserve our liberties as free citizens." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/preserve I think this fits with this idea.
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The New Living Translation is "The Lord keeps you from all harm and watches over your life."
The Amplified Bible is "The Lord will keep you from all evil; He will keep your life."
The New International Version is "The LORD will keep you from all harm—he will watch over your life;"
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by Filthy The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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Abdul Alhazred
Skeptic Friend
USA
58 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 06:07:46 [Permalink]
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Suppose the man had won the lawsuit and God didn't pay?
Would the Roumanian equivalent of a sheriff come and seize His property? |
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Robb
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2007 : 06:26:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
The New Living Translation is "The Lord keeps you from all harm and watches over your life."
The Amplified Bible is "The Lord will keep you from all evil; He will keep your life."
The New International Version is "The LORD will keep you from all harm—he will watch over your life;"
| Ok. All these translations are saying the same thing in light of the context and what the rest of the Bible says. |
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington |
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