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Gorgo
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Posted - 12/24/2007 :  11:48:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The vast majority of the inhabitants of the Czech Republic are Czechs (94.2%, out of which 3.7% claimed Moravian ethnicity and 0.1% Silesian in the 2001 census). The largest minorities are Slovaks (1.9%), Poles (0.5%), Vietnamese (0.44%) Germans (0.4%), and Gypsy people.[5]


Why don't you assume that readers here are as ignorant as I of the history of Czech ethnicities and regions. Bohemia is the western part of the Czech Republic and Moravia the eastern part? Are these political divisions?

Sorry to hear you've been hospitalized. I understand schizophrenia can be very debilitating. I hope that's not the case for you.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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konikula
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 12/25/2007 :  11:33:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

The vast majority of the inhabitants of the Czech Republic are Czechs (94.2%, out of which 3.7% claimed Moravian ethnicity and 0.1% Silesian in the 2001 census). The largest minorities are Slovaks (1.9%), Poles (0.5%), Vietnamese (0.44%) Germans (0.4%), and Gypsy people.[5]


Why don't you assume that readers here are as ignorant as I of the history of Czech ethnicities and regions. Bohemia is the western part of the Czech Republic and Moravia the eastern part? Are these political divisions?

Sorry to hear you've been hospitalized. I understand schizophrenia can be very debilitating. I hope that's not the case for you.


No, from 15th century Moravia is only abstract geographical part, nothing more than unbordered thought area on map. But some people, i guess from one radical separatistic segment of neo-neo-nacionalists in Brno are trying to manipulate, put in blindness normal people by subconsiouss influences. It means regulations in culture: they are preparing with attention culture actions in some order; and also they tainted whole Brno with strange and scary stickers, or directly with that "radical talking" stickers.

It is campaign for separation of Moravia. I would like much more started campaign for reattaching of Slovensko to Cechy... so that we would be Ceskoslovensko too. Don't you have idea how to tell both these nations what all their people wish loudly enough? I have to short hands. But as I checked, 99% of czechs and slovenians would wish that fully. Only politics and media are bluring.

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Gorgo
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Posted - 12/25/2007 :  13:21:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Who is behind this campaign for separation? Is religion involved?

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konikula
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  06:33:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, but maybe it has many antyxenic outputs to the city (means it helps antisemitism, antiarabism etc to grow, and as it feeds people with these "ideas", it is dopped by people filthy by these "ideas"). I guess it is based on peoples hate to local gypsies, and they call gypsies "dogs"... If I met one of them (they wear black suede coats) at night in empty street he asked me imepratively "Wanna fuck?" ... so they taint fear to local people easily.

Many strange things is happening now in Brno.

Also there is two types of police in Czech republic: National police of Czech republic, City police
and why I am talking about it: City police was used to secure government buildings in cities, few years passed and city police is spread all around city and they are beating homelessess, so that they are hardly injured and hospitalised. National police is inhibited in direct proportion to spread of City police. Also, I guess it is normal in USA, if I want to speak on public, e.g. speak out my thoughts about fuel directly on the street, I guess there is no contradiction to the law and no policemen would put me away - but I tried to prelect my thoughts in a underpass but I was immediately deterrenced by City police to "Never try it again".

(I was prelecting about cases in czech language [there is not only with whom, with what, there is also who, what, whom...etc], also about necessity to be prepared fully in next 20 years to adapt to fuel finish, also about insuficness of czech psychiatry ETC..)

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Edited by - konikula on 12/26/2007 06:35:35
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Gorgo
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  06:56:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like Neo-Nazis? Are they people of German heritage?

Are you saying you don't have schizoprhenia?

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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konikula
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  07:05:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, I guess they are more linked to Austria. But I rather speak about neo-neo-nazis... because we have boys without hairs, and they were first called as neonazis... and these blackcoaters are also very nicely hidden and unrecoginsed by public.

Um, maybe I have, but I studied psychology, psyhopatology and freuds psychiatry, and after that all I think: there is many of what they take as heterodox possible and real, and it is pure dogmatism to close all people talking about telepathy to the hospital ... and after that all I think I have depressions from 15 year of age... and also: schizophreny is now only category where to hide uncategorised and uncategorisable ...

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Gorgo
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  08:09:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was just trying to determine if you were saying you were hospitalized for schizophrenia as an excuse to lock you up for a while.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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bngbuck
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  18:10:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konicula.....

I just noticed that you were back! Welcome! Have you been in hibernation (winter sleep) or what?

Your posts are becoming easier to understand. You must be practicing verbal English, as well as written English.

In the beginning here, you were trying to express (speak) some highly complicated ideas without enough command (knowledge) of English to be comprehensible (understood).

You have done very well with improving your communication. I think that soon we will be able to carry on a dialog (understandable talk among several persons)

After reading about your language, Cestina, I can understand the difficulty you have in writing in English! There are big differences! I commend (praise) your progress!

Are you able to read other posts (subjects) in this Forum and understand them clearly?

I don't want to patronize (lack of respect) you as I recognize your ability to think, but I do not know at what level to write to you. Is what I am doing here too simple? Please respond and I will reply accordingly.

Again, welcome back to SFN!

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Gorgo
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Posted - 12/26/2007 :  18:32:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://czechdaily.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/nazi-salute-during-motogp-after-party-in-brno/

Is it illegal to give a Nazi salute in the Czech Republic?

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 12/26/2007 18:33:26
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konikula
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  10:10:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes it is illegal but it is widely spread to do it secretly.

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konikula
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  10:18:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My ideas popcornised

1)
¨¨So I would like to start some discussion on "Earths animal consists from many cells, including animals, man, forests;
¨¨In such viewpoint we should improve our ability to communicate with nature, as like our abilities to drive nature creatively"
;
2)
¨¨I suppose there are no languages borders, no intellectual or intelligence barriers between man and well running natures rest (~WRNR);
¨¨In other words I suppose: man is the latest, who should integrate himself to WRNR.
3) - On word relation "Earths animal"
¨¨We imagine whole Earths nature in all its cycles and circuits, is some type of mushroom. In other words "Whole nature system in its ideal state would behave as one organism cell, which decays anorganicity and chaos to system and includes it to itself as different forms and functions". I suppose, once, in future will be whole worlds nature integrated, so it will admonish of about one cell, or in other words one body, where any subsystem (man, animal, any specimen) has its function; so man could be part of system nervous, animals could in this pink future (I think, present, incline and propagate it as thinkable) play role of red cells etc..
4)
¨¨I try to delineate primary targets of final restructure, which are, or should be in major parallel to ecological thoughts and systems; but many times it should be sharper than these systems and views: within the meaning of its application, planning and in result;
5)
¨¨It could be very unpredictable in its impact, when these ideas would be taken and used to manipulate public. Mostly new thoughts are misused to do so, to retrieve soldiers etc. We can take Engels eg., who, with my full respect to his force to think newly, was misused to enlarge Russian territory.
¨¨But my root theory influences and targets are contrarunning to territorialism etc.: to restore man sensibility, ability to use all freedoms, abstraction - and also - to re-enable public criticism, what I am missing at most these days. I will overlive if our general public loose its creativity. But we should increase also that function in our public, because it has its big role in intellectual ability of specimen.
6) ~*1*~
¨¨So we can extract primary target from [5]: any change should be applied slowly, guardedly, plot and finally;
¨¨Also any deducts must grow by peace with full respect to man rights to think, speak and do thing; if it is heartfelt it is surely not in conflict to anything nor anyone;
7)
¨¨We must find way to stop wars and other negative factors, otherwise we get no target at all.
8) ~*2*~
¨¨So target two: getting good conditions for our work.
a] - WAR
¨¨We can begin with parallel: when man kill man for any reason it is so called "criminal act" - .
¨¨So, my global system must have international (~INL) anti war armed police - AWAP, which and only which could manipulate whole worlds war arsenal (~WWWA); I would like to include IAEA, for it's sense for truth. So IAEA should have it's own police segment (IAEA Polizei - IAEAP).
¨¨Anti war jurisdiction is then necessary. Why not try to copy laws from criminal law already written?(copying laws between countries could also help). We could synthetise all worlds jurisdictions at crime point, and only replace "man, person" with "any group, nation, country" and output text would help us to secure international relations against useless mortalities.
¨¨So shouldn't we call any war "crime" and get rid of it?
¨¨Here I have my old idea: war freezing. Means: if specific conflict is beginning at any level (INL, civil) AWAP moves huge amount of soldiers and technique there, so that they cannot move nor breath easily. Amount should be really extreme. That is no problem if we have rest of countries behind ourselves.

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Edited by - konikula on 01/12/2008 11:55:53
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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/05/2008 :  16:31:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konicula.....

Well, this is a start. Let's take it one point (#1 or #2 or #3...) at a time. Start with #1.

#1.
So I would like to start some discussion on "Earths animal consists from many cells, including animals, man, forests;
¨¨In such viewpoint we should improve our ability to communicate with nature, as like our abilities to drive nature creatively";

I paraphrase:
I would like to start discussion this topic:
The life forms on Earth are all multi-celled organisms. Animals, man, and plant life. Therefore we who share this quality, should be able to communicate better with other life forms, as well as we are able to control and change these life forms to our design.

If this is what you have said, this is my answer:
I can understand trying to communicate with animals, but not with trees and plants. Trees and plants are not sentient (they can not think and express thought) so how can we communicate with them?

Next step. You answer my question
__________________________________________________________________________________________

#2.
I suppose there are no languages borders, no intellectual or intelligence barriers between man and well running natures rest (~WRNR);
¨¨In other words I suppose: man is the latest, who should integrate himself to WRNR. - On world relation "Earths animal"
I paraphrase:
I believe that there is no reason, such as a language barrier or an intelligence barrier which separates groups of humans from each other; for there to be a barrier between man and nature (other life forms) and no reason for man not to stop interfering in the natural processes of nature's existence. Man is a newer life form than animals and plants, so Man should not disrupt the natural course of Nature. Man should be the animal that works to conserve and protect the Earth
If this is what you have said, this is my answer:
It is necessary and important for man's existence and evolution to change and structure much of the natural course of nature. Man is merely a highly developed form of animal who has great power to change his environment - much more than any earlier animal form. Frequently Man makes mistakes in changing the course of Nature. He and much of the rest of the living world is damaged when this happens. Man may end up destroying himself and much of the rest of Nature along with him, which would merely mean that man was not the most fit of all life forms, so he did not survive. This is consistent with Charles Darwin's theory of Evolution, which I believe is a correct view of Nature. However, there are some signs today that Man is beginning to take steps to protect the Earth. Not nearly enough, but a start.
Next step. You comment on my statement
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

#3.
I suppose, once, in future will be whole worlds nature integrated, so it will admonish of about one cell, or in other words one body, where any subsystem (man, animal, any specimen) has its function; so man could be part of system nervous, animals could in this pink future (I think, present, incline and propagate it as thinkable) play role of red cells etc..
I will try to paraphrase. This one is difficult.
In the future, it may be that the life forms of the entire world (Man, Animals and Plants) will integrate into a cohesive and cooperating whole entity, where every part has it's place and function, as is the case with the human body. In this rosy view, (I think it is possible), of the theoretical model of the Earth functioning as a human body does, man might play the role of the nervous system, animals might take the role that red blood cells do in the human body, etc.
If this is what you have said (I am doubtful of this), this is my reply:
In some ways, there are parallels (comparisons) in the functioning of the human body to the actual ways that the Earth as a functioning whole system behaves. But what comparisons you can make are very general and not very useful. So I don't know what you are really trying to say here, or what point you are trying to make. Perhaps that Man needs to cooperate better with animals and plants to make the Earth a better place. I can understand that in the sense that we (Man) needs to stop abusing the plant and animal elements of nature, and there is some validity to that. However, it is a truism (everybody knows it already) so what is your point. I probably just don't understand fully what you are trying to say in your fractured English. Please try to further inform me.
Next step. You answer, comment and inform me.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________

I am going to stop here. If you can respond to these 3 replies to the first three of your points, let's communicate as best we can on these matters before going on to the next 5 or 6 or 7 or 8, or more, whichever there are!


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konikula
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  06:36:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ADD PARAPHRASE 1)
I updated the paragraph three for your first paraphrase. I hope that mushroom will enlarge your imaginatory abstraction ability.

ADD NOTE 1)
Trees and plants are not sentient (they can not think and express thought) so how can we communicate with them?
- Here you are in dogmatism quite similar to "Animal doesn't have consciousness" or "Birds have no speech because they are only singing for man". So I guess in few more centuries man will be able to communicate as with one every organism, as with one every collective consciousness of any group of specimens. Also I suppose there are strategies on how to do it electronically or magnetically or with use of sound frequencies now;
As I suppose human brain Is easy programmable by symbols, wantings, needs, necessarities etc. Now I am reading komunistic literature, where methods of mass manipulation by subject-object differention of collective consciousness with use of belief are widely described to our still present psychiatrists. Before it was used to ideologise and clear out our people, now It is only used to manipulate with insight and will to change through media. Very horrible reading and also few headaches are coming while reading it.

ADD PARAPHRASE 2)
Ok, I guess you see clearly what I thought/think :) Only functions of known lifeforms are "EG."

ADD NOTE 2)
I am not sure about "It is a truism what you said." Yes sure it is well known "Man should stop behave as drunken idiot to nature, and between man and man";
But I do not know any author who is trying describe possible steps and reforms to worlds civilisation/s basing all in natural integrity and looking up to this ideal primarily;
Also human rights and similar statements are in late ideologies* (roayalism, dictaturism, komunism, democracism, uncontrolled police-add-economism**, armed-anarchy) hardly pleadable***.

*)or better told modes of human language-group functioning and behaving
**)which is my derived abstract of what could grow from economic-democratism which pay no attention of human psychology
***) i believe pleading of these statements is good in democracy, but also in any other mode where judge is pleaded by ruler or elities.

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Edited by - konikula on 01/08/2008 06:57:42
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  11:16:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow, the clarification is even harder to understand.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 01/30/2008 :  12:34:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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