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konikula
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  12:20:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by bngbuck

What are you saying? CSFR? CS=Cyrillic Russian? SR=Slovan Russian?
Can you confirm, comment?


I can only tell you, that Russians have cultural influence to all slavonic nations. So maybe experiencess to hunger, tyrany and continuous fear is connecting us. And also need for peace and criticism. But also we are divided by different influences from germans, latinics... that is the reason for so much dialects of slovan language. Because by my experience polish, russian or czechoslovac language only sounds and seems different but it has too much shared to call it causally independent languages. But yes, and also, only if you stroke my slovan and rescribe it to russian, you can include polish and hrvat etc. to russian language inheritants. But in real CSFR means Czecho Slovac Federative Republic, which is by my thought best variant of both side existence.

di:liny = mniamky
Edited by - konikula on 10/30/2007 13:26:10
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Gorgo
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  12:23:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Google CSFR Czechoslovakia. CSFR has to do with the name changes before the breakup. Czech and Slovak Federal Republic, etc. CR, I assume is Czech Republic. Not sure if SR is Slovak Republic or not. I generally see it called Slovakia.

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konikula
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  12:54:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Having problems understanding this part. Because of the so-called "war on terrorism" the Czech Republic is being forced to put in U.S. radar, but the Russians don't like that and are threatening nuclear bombing? What are the "E.Ts?"


Yes, I understand to your fears after so called Attack to twins. The communistic part, I mean more investigative part of actual slovanian politicism, has theory of us military corrupcy, where us is producing terrorists in order to convince scared neigbors that military actions of us and gb in africa are in name of world security. I don't want to endanger anyone with some truth-like fantasies about how it really is. But also I am sure, there is many ways to prosper as global world. So there is really no necessity to attack non-democratic systems. Also I am sure there is primarily necessary to secure whole africa and give them sign, that they are not endangered. Taking it from different page, we can easily loose Europe, part of USA, and lot in Africa. Also I am sure, that Iran is really no danger at all. I understand fully president Ahmadinejad and his steps to unity of Islam (inunity would lead to end of global peace as well, and islam is in real religion of peace). On the other hand, the war against terrorism is the same illness as politic jokes which concluse that Judaism is cradle of problems, which Africa does have. It is only malformation of collective psychology - hallucination, reflecting global problems which are slipped, because whole manhood wan't belive it is quilt of any not particular. As told, I prefer reconstruction of whole world infrastructure, forgiving together all injustices, and primarily put equality to crime and war, as basal of any partial constitution. We have internet, and communication is missing. Or do you want to tell me, that war is only way to peace and prosperity [as is told fascistly about democracy]? - And finally, only thing which thema "war against terrorism" brang, is whole-europe hateress to anything what is Islamic, arabic. I think, as pope excused to Islam for his words, which endangered whole situation between East-West, George Bush should exuse for his words of "Axis of evil", which caused global increase of international intolerance, and which allowed many clero-fascist organisations to increase their influence to masses. We must resolve another problems: wars, civilian wars, hunger. How is it possible, that terrorism comes out? It is only reflecting instabillisating influence of democratism to poor countries, or more ancient countries. I agree with spreading freedom, but only way to spread it without terroristic conseq's is spreading it peacefully. If we pay our time, not our money, for solving problems in Africa, we would get partner forever. That is true. And what is between USA and Russia I will never understand. You are fighting for regime, or for fuel. Regime is in all countries archaic. Slavery, dictatory, democracy, socialism - mistakes, archaisms. Fuel? (Laugh) Fuel is finite. And If I could have a word in case of gass - using gass in cars is biggest wastage ever made with biggest subsidiary conflict creating effects, and also climate. Take a thought about gass-car removal. Many problems would wanish. Take a thought about programming world infrastructures on-line, about free material world exchange (money removal). And maybe also our elites will stay in its hauses of gold (because most important people do not need gold [agriculturers, workers... in one word value producers]). We, ants, don't need freedom, gold, luxury - we need peace and security, freedom of work, word, web. Who doesn't want it, doesn't exist at all.

Originally posted by Gorgo

Google CSFR Czechoslovakia. CSFR has to do with the name changes before the breakup. Czech and Slovak Federal Republic, etc. CR, I assume is Czech Republic. Not sure if SR is Slovak Republic or not. I generally see it called Slovakia.

Yes. It means Czech Republic and Slovak Republic. In other words C'echy || C'esko || C'eska: Republika, && Slovenska: Republika || Slovensko. I like more CzechoSlovakia ... if that bastards wouldn't agree to me, I would call them "Bastards to exterminate conglomerate of idiots" rather than.

IN THE NAME OF NATURE - DEMILITARIZE GEO LEVEL - OR YOU KILL EVERYTHING, YOU STUPID BEEING


Anyway I am scared of cold war continuing through that radar. Better you would do, if you subscribe peace to salam nation and russia and china. Better is to cooperate, than risque of international nuclear conflict, which is one of possible consequences after word of Africa is refused. I suppose there is Africa and Asia prepared to cover itself. We must solve global economy, which is one of real causes of terror, playing war games against ghost able to evolve anywhere, against consequences, or their false images is nuclear hazard, as in psychology and sexulogy recursive racionalisation leads to demency, self-insufficiency, or fetishism.

In a fact people are killing themselves because of insfuciency of global financial system. And also, twins were attacked through its representation of global financial system, which yearly kills number of peoples and spreads ignoring of that killing. So in the fact it was not attack on America. Do something. It is sentence told through that attack, do something, we are beeing killed because of you, who is doing nothing, in hope, that to let someone be killed, be famined to death is llegal, if noone cares. Many of us is legally silent, even if we know someone is illegally dying for our perverted luxury needs. And then we are fighting against consequences of bugs of our global system. Feed them, and they will feed you, not kill. Help them to rise, and they will improve their religions to be more human-like. If you protest against their moral consequences to death on woman, you must show them, that you are good. In fact you shown only immorality, obscenity, militarism and fascism against poor. But poor is saint beeing, for whole world of religions. Beeing politic is synonym of beeing in religion.

Me, only CzechoSlovak now, guarantee security of Iran. What Czechs and Slovaks tell is going its own way. They are beating poor, limiting culture, and mainly attacking me physically and maltreating me psychically. Governments of both is corrupted. Only bit good and stabil here is Police, News, Cultural system. Anything else is easy revertable to genocide., that is my feel about central europe. Ask them how they feel about Islam. They would put them to Osvetim again.

Anyway problem of Judea and Buddha stays - someone should clear it wordly. There is necessary to make peace between comunism and buddhism in Asia and between Islam and Izrael. And I think it is possible. If we enable global calmness as central point of finnancial reforms. With at least look to previous ideals of wide-exchange, and necessary changes to get it formly. Global politics should be medicine-like chirurgical actions, or we are butchers to the end.

NOTE for Jihad soldiers and Comunal police unit:
your actions against imaginary evil stay good oportunity for rest of world to be fascised against you and to exterminate you without word. So peace in class

My highest ideal is full support, not charity liarity. And what to do, any worker all around the world would support, if there was system supporting that.

World resuscitation plan point recount:
1) support adapters enabling areas to transmit necessary objects in money free exchange. legislative for financial-net disconnected exchange. web page of needs and overs.
2) unidealised international military police. between support with/to national police units of any. main target: freeze conflict, judge sides. web page with overview of conflicts, main characteristics and public system of investigative discussion. Police like behaviour: only after evidence of need to freeze (one personal submit is enough to freeze intercontinental war). Investigation of civil-war reasons and its enlightenment possibilities.
3) smooth translation of global transport from gass to railways and alternatives, to prevent global economic & social collapse within next few years of spending rest of gass. also we should save some gass for possible better use (derivates, necessary medical energy source backups etc). I guess next 15 years, if stable increase of wasting gass continue, will be last chance to translate structures. If unprepared - global civil war is supposed. Thanx.
4) deparentising structures from constitutive organisation forms to organize-yourself exchange and support formations would help. Money is really not necessary in age of bites and cryptography.
5) Support, Investigate bugs, Exchange again


REAL MESSAGE: dear, perfect world. only perfect I have is fear of you

di:liny = mniamky
Edited by - konikula on 10/31/2007 06:31:46
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bngbuck
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Posted - 10/30/2007 :  20:35:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konikula=Matej.....

How can we improve the translation problem?

Much of what you say is lost because we can not understand!

I, for one, would like to understand more of what you say!

What is your proposal?


Next.....


I (bngbuck) suggest I ask you 1. simple question.

You (Konikula) answer in your best English.

I then explain if I don't understand! Then I suggest different words!
Also maybe different arrangement of words.



Then, you ask a simple question.


I answer, best I can!

Then you correct! Suggest better words!


Next.

We do same procedure with Gorgo, or Dave, or anybody who has interest!

Next.

We go to more complicated questions. 2, 3, 4. etc.


What do you think?
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konikula
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  03:23:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure, I am here to correct any translation insufuciences. Also maybe there would suffice to divide whole text to smaller parts, after which you summarize by own words, what I thought by that. Then I can try to renarrate these parts with understand what wasn't understanded.

di:liny = mniamky
Edited by - konikula on 10/31/2007 03:58:19
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Gorgo
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  04:13:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Russia might inspect U.S. radar base in Czech Republic


www.chinaview.cn 2007-10-25 20:50:56 Print

PRAGUE, Oct. 25 (Xinhua) -- Russian inspectors may be allowed to check on the assembly and operation of the planned U.S. radar base in the Czech Republic, Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek indicated in an interview with the Czech Television (CT) on Thursday.

"I think it was a good offer by the Czechs to dissipate the fears of the Russian administration as well as the military and security circles and show them that nothing mischievous is happening here," Topolanek said.

U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates also talked about a possible presence of Russian experts at the U.S. base during his visit to Prague on Tuesday.

However, a number of Czech politicians consider the presence of Russian military experts at the planned U.S. missile defense base on Czech soil unacceptable.

Deputy chairman of the Czech Chamber of Deputies Lubomir Zaoralek said that such an approach could threaten Czech sovereignty.

The Czech Republic is in talks with the United States on the missile defense plan, as is Poland. Washington expects to hear the final decision from Prague next year.

A recent opinion poll showed that most Czechs oppose the establishment of the base.

The United States initiated the plan to deploy an anti-missile radar base in the Czech Republic and interceptor missiles in Poland earlier this year. Moscow says the deployment is aimed against it, rather than Iran, as Washington has claimed.


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konikula
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  05:32:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Radar base, anti rocket system problem
My position to this problem: I would accept that base, only if it would function for both, Russia, USA and any other peace force. It means full information distribution to all nations, who want to prevent any type of attack. I would never believe it would serve to peace if there was only one nation using it. Also we must think about base non-peace using: it means, what may ensure us about peace sense of base, instead international cooperation at the board of it? how could russians believe americans, or americans to russians, if it was top secret to one of both sides? also there must be some anti-misuse mechanism, which disable whole system in case of corruption. Return to hypothetical case of Bush=Hitler: how would world proceed then. Because offensive use of system is not expelled, until it is military system, as security task.
Also I don't understand L.Zaoralek, what problem does he have to welcome these experts here? Are we resolving peace plan, or souvereignity of no relevance? So my question would be: how to disable whole system in case of invalid usa development and in case system is wholy property of us? Also how would you ensure whole world it is for defense.
Also what would you response to question: why did you say it will protect also europe, if it will not, based at some technical parameters study.

NOTE
Also there is request to usf to excuse it for "It is against Iran", while Irans main interrests are unizing and peace making in bad internal situation between different Islamic parts. Also who can warrant military attack against differently constituted lands? Who warrants democracy to be spread by agression? Is that right? I think we should give Islam time to continue rising, because Internal Africa situation should be rather under control of Iran than under external control, managed by unadequate forcing, side US, UN. Who has more experiences, and isn't time to believe someone "there" right now?

Iraq
Also, how could USA attack Irak, based on unprovable 'facts', which were never proved after. And how could OSN warrant that steps as right? I believe, it was all big mistake of UN. There is no change to better after that bombings. Only good was made by self constituted both side Islam-Islam discussion, and hopefully they themselves would continue to stabilize their Islamic part of Africa.
Also how is it possible to shoot Husseins family. And how is it possible to let that inhuman execution of Saddam without justice?

Adequacy
Also adequacy of USA and OSN in global peace is bit unprovable. Let's take near history of USA: slavery, different rights for black man, international contracts ignoring, ultra catholic politic (what do they mean by Evil in this age?), vietnam, cold-war, different Chomsky hypothesis, Bush-Gore voting, unclean Clinton medial removal, Kennedys removal, discutable using of NP in Japan at civils, seems more like testing. And this, young young country, well, you helped industrically to finish Hitlers try a lot, but so did Russians - so. And what competency does OSN have (lets look back at Irak, Iran, Barma..), did they once in history judge international conflict? Or do they only submit and submit any try to spread democracy*?
* also take backlook to my critique to capitalism, in case of its inability to control and limit public spending of important sources. compare to misusing of hard drugs, or experiment on rats in case of electronic pleasure centers stimulation, where rats were inable to survive, they only stimulated around, until they died to hunger.

Note on Koraan
also Islam should reform, in sense of women rights and reforms to legislative to it. I understand moral sense of muslims. But I think there is possibility to expulse by-islam-immoral individuals, and to give them asylum in democratic systems. You, nations of Allah, should reform from militarism and stoning punishments, because this is also main pillar of anti-islamism in all non-islamic countries. I would rather see expulsions and asylums than your Africa weeping blood for these obsoletisms of Koraan. I guess there is possibility to reform church of Islam. And also we Europeans (not me) are afraid of "spreading Islam militarily", I would rather plant neighbourness and support. And It is on your speakers of Islam to secure us of reforming mood in these life violating rows of Koraan, in sense of "Salam aleikum". There should be peace, and also home for bad children of muslim society. I hate pornography too, but it is not reason to kill them, better to expulse and ignore...

Nobel?
Anyway if I am fan of someone's steps in peacemaking and support, it would be Iran, and Ahmadinejad. Only overview of its internationall interesses leads me to think of them thankfuly. Military actions to United Africa members are only inadequate and dangerous tries to spread democracy and insouvereignity. Even taking it only from side of whole european anti-islamic opinion state, we really haven't moral right to import any piece of our culture into Africa, we should learn from Ahmadinejad. Also I am against connecting Africa fully to west financial system, which leads only to mass deculturisation and demency, degrading of sexuality in the name of freedom, and lost of ability to be critic while talking about rest of the world.

News
About international desinformation style:
http://www.salamiran.org/content/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=228&Itemid=0
About peacefull targets of Iran:
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-239/0710310656165419.htm

di:liny = mniamky
Edited by - konikula on 10/31/2007 07:53:40
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bngbuck
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Posted - 10/31/2007 :  12:11:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konikula.....

You wrote:
Sure, I am here to correct any translation insufuciences. Also maybe there would suffice to divide whole text to smaller parts, after which you summarize by own words, what I thought by that. Then I can try to renarrate these parts with understand what wasn't understanded.


Try this:

Yes, I agree we can improve my translation.

I will try to break my big blocks of narrative into more paragraphs.
Each paragraph will express a full concept. I will keep it as brief as possible.

When the thought has been expressed, I will go to another thought in another paragraph.

If you will rephrase and summarize each paragraph as you understand it, send it back to me and I will rewrite the paragraph so it will be easier for you to understand.


Also, Konikula, please don't write such long blocks of narrative. Try to stay with one idea at a time, finish your thought, then Submit Reply.

Break your long narrative blocks into one-subject paragraphs.

Try to keep each post under 40 lines!

Thank you, Konikula. I enjoy communicating with you!
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konikula
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Posted - 11/08/2007 :  23:57:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
PLEASE CONSULT IRAN, SECURITY ALERT, CONSULT NOT INSULT. AL GORE BACK. PUBLIC REHABILITATION OF CLINTONs POLITICS. DEFASCISATE NEW YORK TIMES AND DEMOCRATS. FUEL RESTRUCT INTERNATIONALL. PEACE, NOT HUNGER AND CHARITY. ALSO LIQUIDATE STREET GLUES WITH SNAKE MOTIVES OR ANOTHER "SCARY" STREET ART. QUICKLY. LOOK AT EU. WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAST IN LIQUIDATING RETURN OF FASCISM THRU ODS IN CZECH REPUBLIC. MOBILIZE YOUR PEOPLE TO SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT REAL SENSE OF TRAGIC WORD "TERRORISM". UNDERSTAND WHAT DID WORD SEX RETURNED TO US. CLEAR FASCISM. REPAIR OUR SYSTEMS. UPDATE IT FROM CAPITALISM. BIOLOGIZE WORLDS FOOD TRANSIT. TALK TO PUBLIC. LET MEDIA CLEAR ITSELF. I, POLIZEI OF IAEA AM TAKING GEORGES BUSH TO ARREST BECAUSE OF "Evil axis" WORLD WORD TERRORISM. URGE ANTIFASCISM TO YOUR PUBLIC. IT COULD GET CRITICAL. IAEA Polizei. AL GORE is your real FAVOURITE. TRACK DOWN LAST PRESIDENTS VOTES. I BELIEVE YOUR ARMY, MORE THAN YOUR MEDIA, NEW YORK TIMES ARE HALLUCINATING AT MOST. THEY NEED PSYCHIATRISTS. MATT

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  01:39:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, that seems to be another descent from merely difficult-to-understand to complete, upper-case, screaming gibberish.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Dude
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  02:19:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its very difficult to follow, thats for sure.

I can't even hazard a guess as to what he is saying most of the time.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

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bngbuck
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  11:30:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Matej....

Please, please.....! We need TRANSLATION

1. Separate your paragraphs into sentences.

2. Please use both UPPER and lower case

3.We do not know what this means!
ALSO LIQUIDATE STREET GLUES WITH SNAKE MOTIVES OR ANOTHER "SCARY" STREET ART

4.We can not make sense of this!
UNDERSTAND WHAT DID WORD SEX RETURNED TO US. CLEAR FASCISM. REPAIR OUR SYSTEMS. UPDATE IT FROM CAPITALISM

5. Try harder to write simple English sentences!

6. I would like to understand you! You have been away! Where have you been?
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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  11:38:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by konikula

PLEASE CONSULT IRAN,


Please negotiate with Iran?


SECURITY ALERT, CONSULT NOT INSULT.


Negotiate? There is nothing to negotiate. This is simply the U.S. attacking a defenseless country.


AL GORE BACK. PUBLIC REHABILITATION OF CLINTONs POLITICS. DEFASCISATE NEW YORK TIMES AND DEMOCRATS.


Clinton tore apart Yugoslavia for many of the same reasons Bush is tearing apart Iraq, and would like to impoverish the people of Iran.

The New York Times is a large corporation, and the New York Times and the Democrats work for the wealthy, not for the rest of us.


FUEL RESTRUCT INTERNATIONALL.


Conserve fuel?



PEACE, NOT HUNGER AND CHARITY. ALSO LIQUIDATE STREET GLUES WITH SNAKE MOTIVES OR ANOTHER "SCARY" STREET ART.


Graffiti? Please explain.


QUICKLY. LOOK AT EU. WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAST IN LIQUIDATING RETURN OF FASCISM THRU ODS IN CZECH REPUBLIC. MOBILIZE YOUR PEOPLE TO SEE THE TRUTH ABOUT REAL SENSE OF TRAGIC WORD "TERRORISM".


The U.S. is the largest terrorist organization on earth.


UNDERSTAND WHAT DID WORD SEX RETURNED TO US.


I do not understand at all.

Who is arresting Bush?

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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bngbuck
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Posted - 11/18/2007 :  18:13:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Konikula.......

Gorgo Estragon and I (Vladimir) have been waiting for you for over a week, existing on carrots, turnips and chicken bones! We're damn hungry, have to pee, and wish you would get here soon. If you really are in the fifth dimension, materialize, and let's get on with the fascinating monologue we were all having! Godot for it!, Konikula!
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konikula
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Posted - 12/24/2007 :  09:23:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit konikula's Homepage  Send konikula an ICQ Message Send konikula a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Its very difficult to follow, thats for sure.

I can't even hazard a guess as to what he is saying most of the time.




I think Gorgo did translate that my scream clearly. You should wait for my artworks in rewriting /:)/ all what was written before, because now I am hospitalised... for liquidations of that snake streetart in Brno. (I was just few weeks not in work but running through city and scratching out that stickers ("Moravian is not Czechian", "Czechian is not moravian") and many of illegal and really ugly fascised bilboards (at illegal places fortunatelly)... I had imprint everything is going wrong, and Brno was very ugly... if you saw fascists mode in 45's in europe it was quite same in Brno 10/07. Very linear speech of art. So I was just terrified of fascisation... maybe, paranoic.
So If you wait I will work at it in January...

Tnx for patience... I have many new ideas prepared...(hospitalised with schizophreny :)

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