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Lyzandra Daria
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  15:56:08  Show Profile Send Lyzandra Daria a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Religion is unique, in the sense that it dehumanises those with different beliefs, similar to the way that racism does.

In the name of one religion adherents of a different religion are relegated to an inferior status to their opponents. All too often the drive to appropriate their land or wealth is intensified and rationalised by the division between the two groups.

Certainly, religion is not the sole force of human cruelty, but it is definitely a contributing factor, and one that could be eliminated.

With respect...

"Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition" Alexander Hodge

Regards, Lyz

Cuneiformist
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  18:18:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Lyz. Not only is religion a "contributing factor" to such things, but people have known this for a long time and have strengthened and manipulated religion to serve their own ends for a long time!
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bngbuck
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  18:27:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lyzandria.....

I couldn't agree with you more, except for one thing....
it is definitely a contributing factor, and one that could be eliminated.
How? It will take more than respect! (Joke!}

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/31/2008 :  20:13:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Lyzandra Daria

Religion is unique, in the sense that it dehumanises those with different beliefs, similar to the way that racism does.
I mostly agree with the ideas you express, but religion certainly isn't unique if it's doing the same thing that racism does.
In the name of one religion adherents of a different religion are relegated to an inferior status to their opponents. All too often the drive to appropriate their land or wealth is intensified and rationalised by the division between the two groups.
Yup. Same thing happens in racism and nationalism. Hitler combined all three to great effect. (That's "great" as in "large," not "wonderful.")

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filthy
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Posted - 02/01/2008 :  02:36:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've said it before: religion is the greatest evil any species has ever foisted upon itself. History, ancient & recent, more than adequately supports that statement.




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Lyzandra Daria
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Posted - 02/01/2008 :  17:25:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Lyzandra Daria a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by bngbuck

Lyzandria.....

I couldn't agree with you more, except for one thing....
it is definitely a contributing factor, and one that could be eliminated.
How? It will take more than respect! (Joke!}




One suggestion would be education:

"Recently, the Arab League reported that #8220;nearly one-third of Arabs are illiterate, including half of Arab women.#8221; The report also points out that #8220;it#8217;s not just the older generation: Three quarters of the 100 million illiterate people in 21 Arab countries are between the ages of 15 and 45.#8221;

http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/mCraven/11566149/

I read an article the other day that stated basically that parents in an African country had paid to send children to an Islamic school (madrasas?) to learn the qar'an...although the children couldn't read...much less read the qar'an in 7th century arabic!

Get the catholics motivated to educate these children...preferably in their own communities.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200801311103.html

"The Mozambican police have detained seven people in connection with the alleged abduction of 40 children."

"The children are from the northern provinces of Nampula and Cabo Delgado, and the central province of Zambezia. The truck carrying them to the south was seized by the police on Monday, after one child escaped and denounced the alleged kidnapping. It was feared that the children had fallen into the hands of child traffickers."

"The head of public relations in the Manica Provincial Police Command, Pedro Gemusse, said "Some parents explained their behaviour saying that this was the only way to educate their children because they are disobedient and don't want to study".
...
"But study what ? These children, aged between seven and 16, are not going to any school recognized by the Mozambican national education system. Instead of studying the normal school curriculum, they are being sent to memorise a seventh century book written in a language (classical Arabic) that none of them understand."
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I don't believe any 'religion' can stand the scrutiny of a well educated population.

Before you ask 'why the Catholics?'...they already have the organization to accomplish this task. Any christian group will do. I feel that such people are 'expendable'.

Eventually I foresee a head-on conflict between fundementalist christians and fundamentalist muslims. They just can't allow the other to 'thrive'.



"Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition" Alexander Hodge

Regards, Lyz
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