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rantanplan
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 Posted - 06/13/2003 : 06:19:59 [Permalink]
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ok bored again...
maybe the topic should be "the life of meaning" or "the life with meaning" or "a life with meaning"
and somebody explain at last what does this of the smilies mean ===> ???? "eight ball"??
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filthy
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 06:35:04 [Permalink]
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I see I must ask the question again: Why does life have to have a meaning?
I use the for a sign-off.
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Donnie B.
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 06:50:13 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by rantanplan
The Meaning of Life
so the conclusion...let s see..don t know..still searching   
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rantanplan
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Greece
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 09:23:32 [Permalink]
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fil the life has to have a meaning, cause otherwise there is no meaning living it...there must be something that we define as meaning for our lives, something that keeps us holding on in difficult times (argument a contrario)
p.s u didn t understand, what I didn t understand, which is understandable (ok we are full with understanding lol) I understand that u use as a sign-off, I just don t understand the purpose of the smilie, for example why there is an eight ball and there isn t an eleven ball, or a hundertfour ball..is it from a game? mini golf? (I know tennis has one yellow ball, football-soccer one white-black ball, basketball one let s say red ball)...or does this ball depict the meaning of life or something? is this THE meaning!!? lol
Donn..do u mean that I must be proud for finding the meaning of life???!!!!!did u know it all along and didn t confide it in us!!!! Yes!! I found it first lol lol lol!!!
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jmcginn
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 09:48:30 [Permalink]
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rantanplan the 8 ball is used in the game of pool (table top pool). It is often a symbol of coolness or craziness (often a tatoo on a biker's arm for example). Also the 8 ball was made into a novelty item sometime ago as you can read about here
http://8ball.ofb.net/
Here is a history of the game of pool (or billards)
http://www.tradgames.org.uk/games/Billiard-Family.htm
The 8 ball also in one of the games of pool (called 8 ball :>) is the last ball to knocked into a pocket (holes at the corner or edge of the table) to win, but if knocked in before all of your other balls are knocked in results in a loss. It is probably from this that we get the idea of the 8 ball being symbolic, as I'm quite familiar with the sinking feeling of defeat when you accidentally knock the 8 ball in before all your other balls are knocked in.
Edited to add this:
Also the 8 ball is symbolic probably because it is the only black ball in billards and all cool people think black is cool :>
Hope that helps.
Also I find life to be quite enjoying and rewarding. So maybe for me, the meaning of life is simply enjoying it while I got it :> |
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walt fristoe
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 10:19:52 [Permalink]
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My life has the meaning that I give it. Any meaning that was imposed upon it from outside myself wouldn't be very meaningful to me. The meaning of my life has always been to search for knowledge and truth, a quest which I have chosen for myself, and therefore holds much more meaning for me than anything else possibly could.
But if one looks at the history of life on earth, it seems that the meaning of life is simply to procreate as much as possible. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/13/2003 : 22:32:13 [Permalink]
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Don't forget "behind the 8-ball," jmcginn, another cliche from billiards. To be stuck behind the 8-ball is to have no good approach to your goal, typically because the 8-ball is between the cue ball and the ball you need to strike first with the cue ball. Usually, "behind the 8-ball" means you are royally screwed.
And Walt expressed pretty much what I was thinking in response to rantanplan's "life has to have a meaning" post. Life does have a meaning, but you've got to figure out for yourself what your life should or does mean. If you let other people tell you what the meaning of your life is, you'll generally be stuck behind the 8-ball. |
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rantanplan
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Greece
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Posted - 06/14/2003 : 05:29:23 [Permalink]
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thanks jmc for answering! seems like u ve made a procejt on eight ball 
and I thought that the cool ball in pool-playing was the white one!!!
this magic eight ball seems like a space-craft, don t u think so? 
Dave I don t want to be stuck behind the eight-ball!!
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Tim
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Posted - 06/14/2003 : 06:02:22 [Permalink]
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Hmmm, the meaning of life? Does Webster's count? How about Dicyionary.com? I went there and was surprised how voluminous that definition really is.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=life
Seriously, if life requires a meaning, (beyond the definition of course), wouldn't that imply an intelligence in the creation? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 06/14/2003 : 09:09:23 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by rantanplan
thanks jmc for answering! seems like u ve made a procejt on eight ball
and I thought that the cool ball in pool-playing was the white one!!!
this magic eight ball seems like a space-craft, don t u think so?
Dave I don t want to be stuck behind the eight-ball!!
(chuckle) I live behind the ! Wouldn't know how to function anywhere else.
I do not believe that the 'Meaning of Life' is any sort of a mystical thing. Rather, it is spiritual to the individual. It can come from the satisfaction of doing the best you can from your endevors, be they scientific or burger-flipping. Or, from acts of philanthropy. And some of us get a lot of satisfaction just from getting out from behind the once in a while.
I do wildlife rescue and rehab, specializing in reptiles. I've only just released a large snapping turtle that some dimwit hit with a car. For the last couple of months, I've been treating her for a broken shell and a mangled leg (and all of my fingers are still intact -- good job!). It was most satisfying to watch her paddle away, shell water tight and leg working well.
That's all there is to it.
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rantanplan
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Greece
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Posted - 06/15/2003 : 01:20:32 [Permalink]
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fil there is nice to have found something that satisfies you -and much more the turtles!!
(ok. I can t help myself and ask this: Do people somewhere eat  turtles? . I just was influenced by Indiana Jones, you know frozen minds of monkeys etc..etc.. ..
The most gross for some people I personally like to eat is snails cooked with tomatoe (and some other things that my grandma puts in there) niam niam, the bad thing with snails is that you must cook them alive, ok! I find that a little cruel..and yes I m guilty!! so lets be in subject and lets define the meaning of the life...yes it s a rather subjective question as walt and dave said..for example the meaning of life of a snail to me? I guess it s to be eaten! so the meaning of life of human beings in general is rather related to the point of view from which someone sees the whole subject..THE CYCLE OF NATURE..that s a good thought..we are undeniably all part of the cycle of nature, as trees, as snails, as turtles etc.
Ok I know that I m talking a lot today..but I have inspiration!!! can t help it.. so I continue..Well, so we come to another point the meaning of the bad and the good in life..the ying and the yang..heaven and hell..Ok I thing I ve just written a -not a blanket, the other thing we put on bed- shit (?)- I hope I didn t confuse the word with the bad word that sounds the same. Just wanted to make a similariation (?)-that I ve written too much. But what the heck!
Tim I saw the url of the dictionary you gave us and I found that definition very interesting.
quote:
life
n. 1. A cellular-automata game invented by John Horton
Conway and first introduced publicly by Martin Gardner ("Scientific
American", October 1970); the game's popularity had to wait a few
years for computers on which it could reasonably be played, as it's
no fun to simulate the cells by hand. Many hackers pass through a
stage of fascination with it, and hackers at various places
contributed heavily to the mathematical analysis of this game (most
notably Bill Gosper at MIT, who even implemented life in TECO!;
see Gosperism). When a hacker mentions `life', he is much more
likely to mean this game than the magazine, the breakfast cereal, or
the human state of existence. 2. The opposite of Usenet. As in
"Get a life!"
Source: Jargon File 4.2.0
Didn t know there is a game called "life".The only game that I ve played and found very interesting and amusing is "Curse of/on monkey Island with Guybrush Threepwood"..
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/15/2003 : 18:39:37 [Permalink]
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| Do people eat turtles? You bet. From turle steaks to turtle soup. Don't know where it's the most popular, but it used to be pretty big in the southern U.S.. |
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rantanplan
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Greece
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Posted - 06/17/2003 : 14:55:01 [Permalink]
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Turtle soup??!!!! Very popular????!!!!!!!
How does it taste???
We have many turtles wandering around here..Perhaps I should start looking at them from a different point of view (filthy sorry just kidding )
what else...let s see...well nothing for now..
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/17/2003 : 19:43:58 [Permalink]
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I wouldn't know how turtle soup, or any other turtle dish, might taste, but I'm not much of a carnivore, anyway. I don't even know what beef tastes like.
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rantanplan
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Greece
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Posted - 06/18/2003 : 17:02:36 [Permalink]
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You don t know what beef tastes like???!!!!
So I conclude that you are a vegetarian...Interesting thema
I 've never understood you vegetarians and you must be a lot there in America...I certainly understand when a person doesn 't eat meat cause he/she doesn 't like the taste or smell of meat, or cause of health reasons -for example the kreuzfel jacobs desease, or the toxins from the chickens, which worried us all here in Europe not so long ago, or because he has cholysterole.. but I sure don t understand why the vegetarians don t eat meat. Eating meat is in our nature, as it is in the nature of some other animals. Eating meat doesn t mean you are not civilized, doesn t mean that it provoces you cruel insticts or something (disregarding the fact that the most men of the special forces -we call them here Zita teams or Mat-are said to eat basically meat-perhaps there is a basis to that..)...I also don t understand the logic of "I don t eat meat cause we don t have to hurt animals, when we can fulfill the lack of proteins that the meat gives us through other nutricion, through plants" But this aspect is contradictionary, cause it takes for granted that animals suffer but plants don t! My opinion is that a right vegetarian should eat nothing -nihil in latin..so the name shouldn t be vegetarian, but nihilian=the man who eats nothing
p.s. carnivore is a person who eats meat? its root is from carne (or is it carni?) from Latin which I think it means meat? (I think I should buy a cd ROM English-Greek dictionary)
I know that in this reply I stick a little bit to the Latin words..But I am justified cause the time has passed..its 3 aper meridiem here and I m desperately yawning..so good night to everyone
p.s.2 where is the time in this site? I can t see where this site s clock is..
p.s.3 can t we use here other smilies beside those on the left? for example a glass of bear, so that I can say 'cheers', or a moon....????
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