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Snake
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USA
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 Posted - 07/27/2003 : 17:39:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
That's the point. The history that I got as a kid was the history of how great white people are. There is a lot of singling out and leaving out.
Perhaps then, it's the way teachers or the corses are taught. They should have students do more book reports, read biographies so students learn more completely.
Taking a segment of history out and teaching it separtly is also 'leaving out'. I would hope that in colleges choosing a history class that encompasses everything 1st is a prerequsit to individual history. |
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Cold in here
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/27/2003 : 18:36:17 [Permalink]
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Toronto is the capital of Canada, and I live in a giant igloo. Blubber anyone? |
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Cold in here
New Member
Canada
48 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2003 : 18:41:12 [Permalink]
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Hey...Psst...Hey, hey Creation...I got a secret for ya...DON'T LIVE YOUR LIFE BY A F**KING BOOK SOME WANKERS WROTE OVER 600 YEARS WITHOUT COORDINATING WITH EACHOTHER! And don't bother telling anyone that the way they live, be it a choice or otherwise, is wrong if they are living a healthy and happy life.
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
775 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2003 : 03:26:47 [Permalink]
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Well, Bush finally got off his fense post, and took a position on gay marriage. quote:
...I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I believe a marriage is between a man and a woman. And I think we ought to codify that one way or another. And we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that."
Okay, no problem. I figured he would have to eventually come out with the opinion that his core supporters wanted to hear, but when I heard he said this line in a press conference yesterday, I realized once more time that this guy hasn't got a clue. I mean, just how many lawyers does someone need to make a federal law that already exists? No wonder we're broke!
See Defense of Marriage Act of 5/96 http://www.lectlaw.com/files/leg23.htm
For full reports see;
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/bush.gay.marriage/index.html
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?date=2003/07/30/1
and,
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1212197.html
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"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2003 : 19:28:10 [Permalink]
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Tim wrote:quote:
I mean, just how many lawyers does someone need to make a federal law that already exists?
Well, while the DoMA defines marriage for Federal purposes, the DoMA doesn't forbid same-sex marriages, it just says that Acts of Congress which apply to married couples won't apply to them (can't file Federal taxes with married status, for example), and that, say, Virginia doesn't have to recognize a legal same-sex marriage in New Hampshire as a marriage (if the couple were to move). I think Bush is looking for something stronger, like a Federal law (or amendment, forcryingoutloud) which completely bans same-sex marriages, trumping state and local law completely.
I really liked his "we're all sinners" line with the later "clarification" from the White House that Bush didn't mean to imply that homosexuality is a sin.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2003 : 20:50:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
I think Bush is looking for something stronger, like a Federal law (or amendment, forcryingoutloud) which completely bans same-sex marriages, trumping state and local law completely.
I really liked his "we're all sinners" line with the later "clarification" from the White House that Bush didn't mean to imply that homosexuality is a sin.
I try as much as possible NEVER to be serious, about ANYTHING, but that man just pisses me off. P. Bush is an Asshole. There I said it.
oh, excuse me, have to log off now.....I hear a knock at the door.
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Dave W.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2003 : 17:27:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Watch out for the jack-booted thugs, Snake.
Thanks Dave. I've got it covered. They are going to take me kicking and screaming if they do try.
Of course it will be to the insane asylum, but little do they know....he he he |
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 09:58:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Computer Org
Other than the (highly) questionable "contribution" at the top of page one, I've had naught to say on this topic (--and probably still don't  ).
"Homosexual", "hetrosexual", "bisexual": All either a matter of choice-of-behaviour or some sort of genetic pre-disposition; but what about that part of the population which is born with BOTH genders?
I used to think that these folk were a miniscule percentage----maybe one in 10,000----but it seems that the true percentage is in the teens (---IIRC, something like 17% of births have mixed gender-characteristics---) and that the baby-doctors just DECIDED and, according to what seemed to be most surgically convenient, did the needed "cosmetic surgury" to make the baby seem to be either a boy or a girl. (GASP!!  Could this REALLY describe "Born in the U.S.A."--- a place founded on individual LIBERTY???)
What about THESE people? "Cosmetic surgury" changes nothing. What are they? Homosexual? Hetrosexual? Bisexual? And why, after nearly 3 pages, has no one even mentioned them?
(Ahem. Was that a rant?  )
I watched a film on this very subject in my physical anthropology class last Spring. It appears that the surgeons often choose poorly many times choosing the wrong "gender" and in quite a few cases it appears that the individual wasn't neither male nor female but a different gender all together. Many of the people studied in this film went on to have terrible lifes because of their chosen gender.
Also it appears that the surgery can destroy the sexual sensitivity of that individual especially for females making sex anything but enjoyable. In fact the clitoris often enlarges and appears as a penis in many cases and doctor's simply chop it off. In fact one of the arrogant bastard doctors on the movie who swore up and down he was doing the right thing said it was easier chopping of a pole then sewing up a hole or something like that.
In the majority of these cases the individual ended up being gay or just not interested in sex at all and often described themselves as having very disfunctional social relations.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/04/2003 : 13:50:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Computer Org
I used to think that these folk were a miniscule percentage----maybe one in 10,000----but it seems that the true percentage is in the teens (---IIRC, something like 17% of births have mixed gender-characteristics---) and that the baby-doctors just DECIDED and, according to what seemed to be most surgically convenient, did the needed "cosmetic surgury" to make the baby seem to be either a boy or a girl. (GASP!! Could this REALLY describe "Born in the U.S.A."--- a place founded on individual LIBERTY???)
I'm VERY skeptical to those numbers!
17% ???
If that really was the case, it should be easy to find documentation about it. Until you can provide some reliable litterature or links on those numbers, I'm going to file it under urban legends.
I did however find a Swedish paper in a medicine journal saying that a certain hormone deficiency in female fetuses can produce male-looking outer organs, which can make it very hard to see it it's a boy or a girl, or all-of-the-above.
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Mahaad_Mana
New Member
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Posted - 09/09/2003 : 22:10:39 [Permalink]
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HOMOSEUXAL IS A CHOICE!!!! Why? Let me tell you, can a man and a man or woman and woman have babies? NO!!
Why would nature put in our genes something that would be racial suicidal? Do we see homosexuality in animals that have females and males? NO! So it's NOT natural!!!!! Why in the world nature make us like our own genders? So homosexuals or bisexuals are nothing but twisted minded sick people who try and change the true facts to 'justify' their acts. That is phyiscal proof!
now for religon. People say 'God made me that way!' Well where in the bible can you find God saying Homosexuality is ok?????? You can ask me all right I go to a Christian School and have read the bible. Gay people once again twist facts on verses so they can be seen as 'normal'.
We've got to put a stop in gay people promoting themselves. They only want to be able to adopt children for their own self-esteem to look 'normal' as heterosexuals. It is proven that children raised with gay families have more physiological damange then children with both a father and mother. What's more study also reveals that many gay relationships are VERY short lived and gay people actually die way faster from unhealthy relationships. If homosexualities where allowed, think of all the dangerous diseases that would spread faster like HIV etc...., why do you think the gay population has the most deadly diseases compared to heterosexuals??
Another thing, Gay people stop saying people who hate you are 'homophobic', HATE and FEAR are two very different things. The only reason you say that is cause you can't come up with something better to say. |
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gezzam
SFN Regular
Australia
751 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 23:05:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Mahaad_Mana
HOMOSEUXAL IS A CHOICE!!!! Why? Let me tell you, can a man and a man or woman and woman have babies? NO!!
Why would nature put in our genes something that would be racial suicidal? Do we see homosexuality in animals that have females and males? NO! So it's NOT natural!!!!! Why in the world nature make us like our own genders? So homosexuals or bisexuals are nothing but twisted minded sick people who try and change the true facts to 'justify' their acts. That is phyiscal proof!
now for religon. People say 'God made me that way!' Well where in the bible can you find God saying Homosexuality is ok?????? You can ask me all right I go to a Christian School and have read the bible. Gay people once again twist facts on verses so they can be seen as 'normal'.
We've got to put a stop in gay people promoting themselves. They only want to be able to adopt children for their own self-esteem to look 'normal' as heterosexuals. It is proven that children raised with gay families have more physiological damange then children with both a father and mother. What's more study also reveals that many gay relationships are VERY short lived and gay people actually die way faster from unhealthy relationships. If homosexualities where allowed, think of all the dangerous diseases that would spread faster like HIV etc...., why do you think the gay population has the most deadly diseases compared to heterosexuals??
Another thing, Gay people stop saying people who hate you are 'homophobic', HATE and FEAR are two very different things. The only reason you say that is cause you can't come up with something better to say.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 23:25:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by gezzam
Same shit.....different bucket!!!!!
LOL.
Damn right, G.
You know, I do try not to use the word moron too often or too loosely but Mahaad is just asking for it.
Mahaad_Mana the Moron. Do you realize how childish and ignorant your post sounds, Mana?
Oh lord, if I hadn't just taken an aspirin, I'd have to now. I'm going to sleep. Can't take this anymore. Mana, get a life....or do some research before you make statements like that. |
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STFU
New Member
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2003 : 03:39:18 [Permalink]
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Mana, get a life....or do some research before you make statements like that.
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COMING FROM THE # 1 POSTER. NICE! SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT HE NEEDS TO DO RESEARCH BECAUSE MAN ON MAN OR WOMEN ON WOMEN CAN CREATE BABIES?
FOR THOSE WHO SAY THE CANT HELP WHO THEY FALL IN LOVE WITH IS IT OK TO LOVE YOUR FATHER, MOTHER, SISTER, OR BROTHER THAT WAY? I MEAN IF YOU CAN CONTROL WHO YOU FALL IN LOVE WITH THEN HAVING SEX WITH IMMEDIATE FAMILY SHOULD BE JUST FINE RIGHT? |
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STFU
New Member
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2003 : 03:47:28 [Permalink]
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Why are some people so bothered by it when it doesn't affect them in any way?
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LOL WHY DOES HIS POST BOTHER YOU? |
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