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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/24/2004 : 02:00:53
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If not, then you should be..........
quote:
'We Could Control This Country': 33 Extreme Reasons to Give Bush the Boot
by Maureen Farrell
"I am deeply disturbed by the dangerous and growing influence of people like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell on our nation's political leaders." – Walter Cronkite, January, 2004
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/08/far04029.html
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Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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 Posted - 08/24/2004 : 03:45:25 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by filthyIf not, then you should be..........
Economic models predict Bush win
Hope these predictions are as good as those of the last election. (They predicted Gore to win.).
Looks like Flori-duh could be the key again. |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 13:22:34 [Permalink]
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Guess how the "religious right" is taking this election! So yeah, maybe you should be scared...
Cartoon #1.
Cartoon #2
~~>The following is a comment I sent him about this:
quote:
With all due respect, look who's talking about "double-mindedness here! Isn't the xian god the one who had babies and pregnant women killed many times in the OT? Isn't he the "one" who kills babies now, by "allowing miscarriages"?
The actions are the same, the only difference is that if humans do it, you people whig out, justifiably in my opinion, BUT if your "god" does it, then all of a sudden it's OK?!
I've heard all the excuses (wanting to take them to heaven, god's "justified in doing it" or "he made life, he can take it"
To put it delicately, I am not impressed.
<~~This would have been more impressive perhaps if I had not had the bugger-ups in my punctuation! 
And finally, Cartoon #3.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2004 : 13:56:07 [Permalink]
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John Ashcroft...was initially considered an extreme choice for Attorney General, but the folks at Prophecy Central rallied behind him, as did Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, who reportedly anointed the America's Attorney General with cooking oil, in the manner of King David. -emphasis added
WTF??? I was scared when I learned the Reagans were consulting astrologers. Now I'm petrified.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/26/2004 13:57:31 |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 14:03:48 [Permalink]
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Hey, hey! I got a reply, and in record time, too!
----- Original Message -----
From: John Rule <***@***.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:46:57 -0600
To: R**** P*** <*****@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Hal Lindsey Cartoons
> You're a nut case! JR
>
<~~This is my reply back:
You failed to explain how xians are not double-minded by worshipping the god who's killed more infants than any abortionist ever could.
I've noticed that you religous right types like to demonize those whose opinions you don't agree with. Fine, but in this case, calling me a "nut case" given some of the whacked out things I've seen in your cartoons is just another example of "double-mindedness"!
Ah well.
EDIT: To take out HIS email address as well! |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
| Edited by - the_ignored on 08/26/2004 16:30:38 |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2004 : 14:12:01 [Permalink]
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The Ignored, may I ask what you avatar is?
It looks like an oatmeal cookie suspended over a gigantic piece of sushi set on a wicker chair. But I know appearances can be deceiving... |
"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 08/26/2004 14:12:42 |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 14:31:07 [Permalink]
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| Ashcroft has been quoted, and has said in his own book, that he annoints himself with oil "like the biblical kings" before he gets sworn into any public office. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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Ricky
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 16:34:23 [Permalink]
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Well, here's our next exchange:
----- Original Message -----
From: John Rule <***@******.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:30:39 -0600
To: ****** **** <*****@operamail.com>
Subject: Re: Hal Lindsey Cartoons
> Your second letter confirms that you are some kind of nut. What
are
> "xians? Some kind of alien form a space ship? Further more,
when you
> refer to my God, please Capitalize His name! Praise Him! JR
>
Ok, here's the deal. (Also my last letter, as I suspect we're not
going to get anywhere!)
If you can explain to me how you can call a baby-killing god
"holy" yet get upset when humans do the exact same thing
(well, not the exact same thing, god had it done for free!) then I'll
take back what I've said.
It seems you're very good at pointing out other people's flaws, but
you aren't so strong at seeing your own.
"Xians" is an old term, I'm suprised you haven't heard of
it before. Even other christians know of it:
http://www.xianworldview.com/articles/articles.php?article=FAQ
"Xian" is an abbreviation of "Christian" -- the
"X" comes from the Greek letter chi (the first letter of
_christos_, from which we get "Christ" in English), which
looks very much like an X. It's the same origin as "Xmas"
for "Christmas."
And as expected, you've ignored the problems I've posed, and have
just gone to the expected name-calling.
Last point: Why should I captialize the name of "god"? I
don't even figure he/she/it exists! You want to capitalize it?
Fine. It's your god, not mine. If you're going to get that upset
over such minor details like that, I figure that's more a statement
of your mental health, not mine.
--
His last reply was basically the "I'll pray for you" thing:
"I will pray for you--that God will show you how REAL He Really Is!!!
Praise Him!!! JR" |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
| Edited by - the_ignored on 08/26/2004 16:35:36 |
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Renae
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 17:31:16 [Permalink]
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I've been scared since before 9/11, when Bush began pulling out of treaties. I didn't like the arrogance that withdrawing out of Kyoto, for example, showed. And I wondered what he had up his sleeve. Little did I know how bad Bush's presidency would become.
BTW this thread is funny.  |
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satans_mom
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 19:35:35 [Permalink]
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This thread is pretty funny, but I'm terribly frightened by the supposed theocracy we have in store. I find all of it hard to believe that people who are for the death sentence in punishing homosexuals and adulterers, for example are going to impose their ways on to the American lifestyle too much. They may say all they wish but I think it's impossible that the American people will ever let this happen. Although we've elected Bush in to office... and the figures are tight, I would have thought his approval rates were less than 40%... but none the less, there are a lot of gay people and millions of others who would defiantly oppose the radical fundamentalist laws and potentially start a revolution. I don't even know if Bush would push for the death penalty when someone is convicted of being homosexual... Perhaps prison time, but death???
Let's get Bush out before any more damage can be done. I don't like Kerry, but I'm convinced that he is better than Bush. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 08/26/2004 : 23:51:04 [Permalink]
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I don't even know if Bush would push for the death penalty when someone is convicted of being homosexual... Perhaps prison time, but death???
The idea that a president or a congress would try to make any laws that regulate a persons sexual preference should scare you. As long as it's two consenting adults, why should it be anyones business? |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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RightWingAtheist
New Member
USA
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Posted - 08/27/2004 : 17:02:27 [Permalink]
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| Although I voted for and still support President Bush, I'm far less than thrilled with (read: very much opposed to) many his policies. However, I'm even less optomistic about Kerry's potential. As a retired member of the military, I'm disgusted by his post-Viet Nam activities. I'm also uninspired by his voting record on defense. As a Constitutional Republican, I'm even less inspired by his voting record as to the uniform protection of our rights. I'm also concerned about the direction his brand of internationalism would seem to take us. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2004 : 18:01:58 [Permalink]
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I'm even less inspired by his voting record as to the uniform protection of our rights.
Yet you'd support Bush, when Bush is responsible for the drafting of the Patriot Act, and Bush would like to get another version (PA2) passed?
For the first time in US history, right now, because of G.W. Bush, we can be secretly arrested and detained indefinitely on mere suspicion.
No sane person who wants to see rights and civil liberty protected will vote for Bush. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 08/27/2004 : 18:19:55 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Dude
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I'm even less inspired by his voting record as to the uniform protection of our rights.
Yet you'd support Bush, when Bush is responsible for the drafting of the Patriot Act, and Bush would like to get another version (PA2) passed?
For the first time in US history, right now, because of G.W. Bush, we can be secretly arrested and detained indefinitely on mere suspicion.
No sane person who wants to see rights and civil liberty protected will vote for Bush.
I think when you are talking pure rights protection Dude has hit the proverbial nail on the head. The record speaks for itself.
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