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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 08/31/2004 : 15:58:58 [Permalink]
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"No sane person who wants to see rights and civil liberty protected will vote for Bush."
The prejudicial component is easily removed.
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"No person who wants to see rights and civil liberty protected will vote for Bush."
And there you have it.
If you believe Bush and Ashcroft have civil liberty and repect for basic rights in mind..... think again. Their record speaks clearly on the issues, and it says that would take rights away from you if they could get away with it. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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chaloobi
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 07:31:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
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Originally posted by filthyIf not, then you should be..........
Economic models predict Bush win
Hope these predictions are as good as those of the last election. (They predicted Gore to win.).
Looks like Flori-duh could be the key again.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 08:40:18 [Permalink]
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I think the last atheist in office was Lincoln, and I'm sure it never came out before the election.
Edit: And we all know what happened to him! JK, I dont believe he was killed for atheism but he was killed by a religonut |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Stargirl
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 14:55:15 [Permalink]
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My neighbor put up a Bush – Cheney sign right before the convention.
This didn't surprise me since they are born again fundamentalist Christians.
What did surprise me is what I overheard this weekend during their monthly Sunday Bible reading picnic.
I wasn't eavesdropping on purpose I was in my garage picking some burrs off one of the stray cats that live in my garage.
Anyway, I heard a couple people talking about how right their Reverend somethingorother was when he said that a vote against George Bush was a vote against god.
I know that fuddies are weird but is this something new because I've never heard that one before.
Granted Bush said he was appointed by god, (a strange name for SCOTUS if you ask me,) but do these people really believe their god chose this guy as the best person to lead the free world?
Maybe we could start our own scare tactic saying that the two recent hurricanes are gods' way of giving Florida a taste of what will happen if the republicans try pulling any shenanigans during this year's election.
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 15:33:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Stargirl
...Maybe we could start our own scare tactic saying that the two recent hurricanes are gods' way of giving Florida a taste of what will happen if the republicans try pulling any shenanigans during this year's election.
In fact, I was going to start a thread like that. The evangelicals often step in after a man-made or natural disaster and say: "This was God's punishment." Usually with a political twist, i.e. people are not devout enough, or conservative enough or too liberal, so God allowed the terrorists to attack, or the earthquake to shake, etc...but they're strangely quite over the hurricanes that have been beating up Florida lately! The fundamentalists are frauds, they're not being "fair and balanced" in their condemnation. |
Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.
"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.) |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 15:38:58 [Permalink]
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Maybe we could start our own scare tactic saying that the two recent hurricanes are gods' way of giving Florida a taste of what will happen if the republicans try pulling any shenanigans during this year's election.
Heh. My son-in-law (slightly religious, radid Democrat) came up with that one the other day. Now he says Ivan just might put the mustard on the dawg.
A pity that the people getting hurt aren't the ones that queered the election. But if I've read correctly, that's the way God works.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 22:52:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Stargirl
Maybe we could start our own scare tactic saying that the two recent hurricanes are gods' way of giving Florida a taste of what will happen if the republicans try pulling any shenanigans during this year's election.
 I always thought they were... |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 02:00:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Stargirl
Anyway, I heard a couple people talking about how right their Reverend somethingorother was when he said that a vote against George Bush was a vote against god.
I'm wondering. How long will it take before fundamentalists start building pyramids for their leaders? |
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`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 06:49:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I think the last atheist in office was Lincoln, and I'm sure it never came out before the election.
Edit: And we all know what happened to him! JK, I dont believe he was killed for atheism but he was killed by a religonut
I heartily disagree with this. While the arguement can clearly be made for Lincoln having a disdain for organized religion and that he was non-religious, I do not believe he ever said that he was an atheist.
John Wilkes Booth killed Lincoln because of the Civil War and the effect on the South. He was originally going to kidnap Lincoln and bring him to the Confederacy to force a settlement with the Union on independance for the Confederacy. Religion had not one whit to do with Lincoln's death. It was a purely political statement concerning the shift in US politics from a strong state government/weak federal government to a strong federal government/weak state government model.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 07:23:31 [Permalink]
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| Your right I was just bullshittin, that last line was an afterthought, I was just noting the last non-theist I knew about in high office. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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